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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
Don't let that get to you. Keep your cool, you're doing well so far.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
You sir ares so full of it.DJPatrick wrote:kAY...as Alladin has noted and amplified, I didn't vote for "last night's" lynch...I'd already offered myself as a sacrificial lamb (based on the usual Alladin diatribe)...so the rush to lynch me was sort of what I expected but when it swung back to quickly and forceably I waited to see who of votes on me switched at the last moment...even given that some/most would preferany lynch rather than no lynnch I also sort of figure few/none of the original Rish voters swapped preference due to wanting to be seen as being on side with a successful lynch whereas the late switchers become much more suspect. Deg I have no problem with but Alladin with his constant jumping hither and thither is a worry and / = ???

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
rag i think you are next, share with us now before you go-go
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
Other than just going over every lynch again, I am leaning toward doing the opposite of what I think. I seem to have been wrong a LOT in this game!
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
Town-Deg,Rag,Benga,TWR,Rizky,Iron Butterfly.
In my opinion you will find final mafia in remaining group.
If Mets is Town he will die tommorow. If Mets is who he says he is top on the list to die.
Mitch?? He has played as survivor but could be a con job. I lean survivor/jester.
Catcher had a very good reply to my question and posted a list I could agree with.BUT through accident or on purpose he left DJ off it.
I believe dj should be lynch for tomorrow. The others I find highly suspect for a variety of reasons.But we can at least narrow the pool down.
In my opinion you will find final mafia in remaining group.
If Mets is Town he will die tommorow. If Mets is who he says he is top on the list to die.
Mitch?? He has played as survivor but could be a con job. I lean survivor/jester.
Catcher had a very good reply to my question and posted a list I could agree with.BUT through accident or on purpose he left DJ off it.
I believe dj should be lynch for tomorrow. The others I find highly suspect for a variety of reasons.But we can at least narrow the pool down.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
@ Iron Butterfly...to paraphrase your earlier response earlier this night to my post...'You, Sir arse full of shyyte"...
Even earlier "tonite" in response to a Question from another player about WHY Rish should have tried to lynch me if I was Scum, you gave convoluted reasons why Rish (as then known Scum) would have attempted to do so...Well,you didn't expand on the answer so now I will ask YOU: WHY did YOU jump on second in line after Rish to try to get me lynched? Was you read at the time so bad that you backed up Rish no matter what or were you trying to get the movement for a RISH Lynch diverted to someone YOU know is NOT scum???
Even earlier "tonite" in response to a Question from another player about WHY Rish should have tried to lynch me if I was Scum, you gave convoluted reasons why Rish (as then known Scum) would have attempted to do so...Well,you didn't expand on the answer so now I will ask YOU: WHY did YOU jump on second in line after Rish to try to get me lynched? Was you read at the time so bad that you backed up Rish no matter what or were you trying to get the movement for a RISH Lynch diverted to someone YOU know is NOT scum???
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
also @ IB:
You have posted a few times tonight trying to prepare the way for a Lynch on me tomorrow...as you say you're preparing the way for tomorrow's lynch...do you know for sure something Town doesn't?
Looks like now I WILL be assured of being here tomorrow because you have backed yourself into a corner = IF the Scum were to kill me tonight I WILL show VT and you become the head on a Stick come Dawn (as scum, you probably won't) but if we're both here in the morning prepare for a fight. If YOU are night killed and show VT (a remote possibility, I'd say) then you are obviously more inept at this than even appears now.
We both know who thwarted the Lynch on me yesterday and if that person turns up dead in the night then I already have the relevant posts and responses stored and will hammer you with them...
You have posted a few times tonight trying to prepare the way for a Lynch on me tomorrow...as you say you're preparing the way for tomorrow's lynch...do you know for sure something Town doesn't?
Looks like now I WILL be assured of being here tomorrow because you have backed yourself into a corner = IF the Scum were to kill me tonight I WILL show VT and you become the head on a Stick come Dawn (as scum, you probably won't) but if we're both here in the morning prepare for a fight. If YOU are night killed and show VT (a remote possibility, I'd say) then you are obviously more inept at this than even appears now.
We both know who thwarted the Lynch on me yesterday and if that person turns up dead in the night then I already have the relevant posts and responses stored and will hammer you with them...
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DJPatrick wrote:also @ IB:
You have posted a few times tonight trying to prepare the way for a Lynch on me tomorrow...as you say you're preparing the way for tomorrow's lynch...do you know for sure something Town doesn't?
Looks like now I WILL be assured of being here tomorrow because you have backed yourself into a corner = IF the Scum were to kill me tonight I WILL show VT and you become the head on a Stick come Dawn (as scum, you probably won't) but if we're both here in the morning prepare for a fight. If YOU are night killed and show VT (a remote possibility, I'd say) then you are obviously more inept at this than even appears now.
We both know who thwarted the Lynch on me yesterday and if that person turns up dead in the night then I already have the relevant posts and responses stored and will hammer you with them...

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
It's not personal. I happen to believe you are scum.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
or DJP, because he... what was the case against DJP again?
Deg's question yesterday when you and Rish were leading the lynch posse....maybe YOU can answer the question as your cohort is no longer with us?
Deg's question yesterday when you and Rish were leading the lynch posse....maybe YOU can answer the question as your cohort is no longer with us?
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
who was/were the one said we should not lynch rish cause he is pr?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
I said something like that. But there was context. I said that if we had a choice of lynching a VT and lynching a PR, without any information other than that one is scum, we should lynch the VT. I stand by that assessment.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
I was also hesitant to lynch him earlier but I didn't really want to lynch deg either... Was willing to lynch him yesterday after him being absent and after having thought more about his choices but was too late to change
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
That's kinda why I asked if I were the last PR. (I would like some rubber or other form of protection.)benga wrote:rag i think you are next, share with us now before you go-go
Will share later. Must work now.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
I must also acknowledge that even when I changed my vote, I was leaning towards Deg being scum over Rish. I just couldn't stand the silence and the lack of participation. Had Rish made any form of effort, he would have swayed me.
When I get back online, I will look at late pushes for Rish as well as people not voting for Rish.
When I get back online, I will look at late pushes for Rish as well as people not voting for Rish.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
i think you are the next one, cause they jailed you last nightRagian wrote:That's kinda why I asked if I were the last PR. (I would like some rubber or other form of protection.)benga wrote:rag i think you are next, share with us now before you go-go
Will share later. Must work now.
that's the pattern there and obviously they don't wanna anymore gifts
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
There is also Mets to consider.He could luck out and discover someone.If he is telling the truth I doubt mafia would let him live after tonight.benga wrote:i think you are the next one, cause they jailed you last nightRagian wrote:That's kinda why I asked if I were the last PR. (I would like some rubber or other form of protection.)benga wrote:rag i think you are next, share with us now before you go-go
Will share later. Must work now.
that's the pattern there and obviously they don't wanna anymore gifts
But yeh I agree.Mafia will kill confirmed town.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
I am waiting until tomorrow to see what happens in official end of night, since apparently we can talk, but not vote until then (?)
If mets is due to be killed and is town, then can he not be jailed or otherwise protected?
If mets is due to be killed and is town, then can he not be jailed or otherwise protected?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
Seems you have been involved in most of the bad lynches, why are you not suspect?Iron Butterfly wrote:Town-Deg,Rag,Benga,TWR,Rizky,Iron Butterfly.
In my opinion you will find final mafia in remaining group.
If Mets is Town he will die tommorow. If Mets is who he says he is top on the list to die.
Mitch?? He has played as survivor but could be a con job. I lean survivor/jester.
Catcher had a very good reply to my question and posted a list I could agree with.BUT through accident or on purpose he left DJ off it.
I believe dj should be lynch for tomorrow. The others I find highly suspect for a variety of reasons.But we can at least narrow the pool down.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
Several reasons that add up and that present a very strong case i am Town versus others. the strongest evidence is that Benga investigated me with the glasses created by LSU that said I had blood on my hands. We know he was an insane inventor whos inventions state the opposite.
That not good enough??
Anyone can vote wrong. I stand by my vote record. If anything I have the strongest evidence of being Town then anyone still standing. If you dont think so may your argument.
That not good enough??
Anyone can vote wrong. I stand by my vote record. If anything I have the strongest evidence of being Town then anyone still standing. If you dont think so may your argument.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
Sum thorts re: the Rish linch.
(1) Dis was a linch dat Mafia shood have tried hard to avoid. Not only was Rish a useful power roll, but his linch provided a LOT of info - effektively conferming Ragian, Deg, and Benga.
(2) Asuming dat their were 8 or 9 scum at teh begining of teh game - say, 4-6 Mafia and tree or four anti-Town 2Ps (HS, WhatSausage, Mitch, ???), their would still be, as at dawn D6, 5 or 6 left, including 3-5 Mafia (sinse HotShot, WhatSausage, PCM were ded). Sinse their were 14 alive, dat leeves 8 or 9 Town. We needed 8 to linch. That meens it was ackshually kwite a feet to get a linch, ortho Mitch's cooperashun (how long can we rely on dat???) helped. Theirs no way Mafia shood have been on dat linch, becorse (1), witch meens either Town lucked it by been orl or neerly orl on teh same page prackticly or, maybe moor likely, their are ackshually fewer scum than this. Either way, I'm lookig at those who dident vote Rish.
(3) Mafia's failure to blok Rish's linch, even wit teh help of a tree-way log jam, as IB descibed it, is corse fer hope, I tink. At dis point, enywun who dident vote Rish and is not on teh twusted list is suspekt, I tink. I don't tink orl of dem are necesarily scum, but I bet a high proporshun are. I tink a good linch strategy fer D7 wood be for evfrywun who was on teh Rish linch, plus enywun who is on teh twusted list, to vote a seleckted player not in dat groop. No thorts yet on who mite be best.
(1) Dis was a linch dat Mafia shood have tried hard to avoid. Not only was Rish a useful power roll, but his linch provided a LOT of info - effektively conferming Ragian, Deg, and Benga.
(2) Asuming dat their were 8 or 9 scum at teh begining of teh game - say, 4-6 Mafia and tree or four anti-Town 2Ps (HS, WhatSausage, Mitch, ???), their would still be, as at dawn D6, 5 or 6 left, including 3-5 Mafia (sinse HotShot, WhatSausage, PCM were ded). Sinse their were 14 alive, dat leeves 8 or 9 Town. We needed 8 to linch. That meens it was ackshually kwite a feet to get a linch, ortho Mitch's cooperashun (how long can we rely on dat???) helped. Theirs no way Mafia shood have been on dat linch, becorse (1), witch meens either Town lucked it by been orl or neerly orl on teh same page prackticly or, maybe moor likely, their are ackshually fewer scum than this. Either way, I'm lookig at those who dident vote Rish.
(3) Mafia's failure to blok Rish's linch, even wit teh help of a tree-way log jam, as IB descibed it, is corse fer hope, I tink. At dis point, enywun who dident vote Rish and is not on teh twusted list is suspekt, I tink. I don't tink orl of dem are necesarily scum, but I bet a high proporshun are. I tink a good linch strategy fer D7 wood be for evfrywun who was on teh Rish linch, plus enywun who is on teh twusted list, to vote a seleckted player not in dat groop. No thorts yet on who mite be best.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
I agree. Benga used teh glasses on IB, and teh resolt was blood on hands. We know now dat Benga dident have blood on his hands, so we know dat LSU TJ's invenchuns dident in fact orl werk by reflecting back on teh user (or teh glasses wood have sed no blood). So, we flip the resolt and conclude IB is Town.Iron Butterfly wrote:Several reasons that add up and that present a very strong case i am Town versus others. the strongest evidence is that Benga investigated me with the glasses created by LSU that said I had blood on my hands. We know he was an insane inventor whos inventions state the opposite.
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
Not saying that I think IB is scum, but the glasses really only confirm that he was not involved in a kill through N3. And if he was scum, I wouldn't expect him to be used for a kill because his D1 actions put him under some suspicion. (which I assume is why benga investigated him)AladdinSane wrote:I agree. Benga used teh glasses on IB, and teh resolt was blood on hands. We know now dat Benga dident have blood on his hands, so we know dat LSU TJ's invenchuns dident in fact orl werk by reflecting back on teh user (or teh glasses wood have sed no blood). So, we flip the resolt and conclude IB is Town.Iron Butterfly wrote:Several reasons that add up and that present a very strong case i am Town versus others. the strongest evidence is that Benga investigated me with the glasses created by LSU that said I had blood on my hands. We know he was an insane inventor whos inventions state the opposite.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
@deg think from memory benga asked if the glasses would tell from the start of the game if he had blood on his hands and mods said yes so wasn't just from N3 so confirms up until N3 he hadn't killed... Benga might be able to confirm I don't have time to search right now
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (13/28) N6 - Jail bursts open
I agree. That's why I said "through N3", meaning from the start of the game until he was tested at the start of D4.rizky_biznezz wrote:@deg think from memory benga asked if the glasses would tell from the start of the game if he had blood on his hands and mods said yes so wasn't just from N3 so confirms up until N3 he hadn't killed... Benga might be able to confirm I don't have time to search right now