Cleared foxnews - multiple accounts or secret diplomacy

[hutchkov]

Accused:

foxnews
hardraada

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis OR
Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

16094000
16093974
15237836
16035442
16334083

Comments:
I've played in 3 games so far with these two (6- or 8- player games), and they always seem to work together whether through an official truce or through an unspoken arrangement. Oh, and one of them will have won all 3 games, all on Conquer Rome. Another suspicious thing is that they've played 2 more games together on only one different map: Yugoslavia. So they've crossed each others' path 5 times on only 2 maps, in 6- or 8-player games, and won 3 of those matches.

I just accused them of possibly being the same player and foxnews didn't deny it, instead suggesting I was a hypocrite because I had an official account sitter declare that he had taken my turn for me while I was traveling (nice logic). I can't prove they are the same player but something really stinks with those two.

Thanks,
hutchkov

[Donelladan]

Accused:

foxnews
hardraada

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis OR
Conducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 16094000
Game 16093974
Game 15237836
Game 16035442
Game 16334083

Comments:
I've played in 3 games so far with these two (6- or 8- player games), and they always seem to work together whether through an official truce or through an unspoken arrangement. Oh, and one of them will have won all 3 games, all on Conquer Rome. Another suspicious thing is that they've played 2 more games together on only one different map: Yugoslavia. So they've crossed each others' path 5 times on only 2 maps, in 6- or 8-player games, and won 3 of those matches.

I just accused them of possibly being the same player and foxnews didn't deny it, instead suggesting I was a hypocrite because I had an official account sitter declare that he had taken my turn for me while I was traveling (nice logic). I can't prove they are the same player but something really stinks with those two.

Thanks,
hutchkov

Fixed your link.
When you post a game number if you use the balise [game] and [/game] it become a link, there is a button to do that on top of the window when you type your post. Same goes for player.

[Donelladan]

hardraada is a clanmate of mine. Just saying it. I therefore don't think he is guilty but gonna check it out.

You posted 5 games, because they played a total of 5 games together. That is very few.
hardraada is in France and joined CC in september 2010, foxnews is in China and joined CC in march 2007.
Very unlikely they are multi.
foxnews played 332 games and hardraada played 178 games, and in total they played 5 together.

So far there is nothing stinky.

I've played in 3 games so far with these two (6- or 8- player games), and they always seem to work together whether through an official truce or through an unspoken arrangemen

Game 15237836 hardraada won this game.

1st there has been a lot of diplomacy going on during this game. In which you participated.
You are saying hardraada and foxnews were working together, but after reading the chat I see that hardraada made a coalition against foxnews. You were actually in this coalition, it was hardraada ( orange) you ( green) blue and red, playing against pink (foxnews) and light blue.

From game chat :

2015-04-30 18:38:36 - hutchkov: I'm in top and will look to take Italy next then (which means taking out a few orange troops). If we need an official truce to proceed I'm good with that too.
2015-04-30 18:39:08 - hutchkov: (I'm in *too*, not top)
2015-04-30 23:07:56 - hardraada: Green, feel free to kill all those oranges in italy.

I am just really surprised to see you accusing hardraada, when he actually works with you during the game.

hardraada even tried to get a truce for you with foxnews, and later in the game tried to come to help you

2015-05-08 09:00:33 - foxnews: well there it is. hardraada. I give you first strike. I will not hit you until you hit me.
2015-05-09 23:55:50 - hardraada: Sorry Pink, I can't let you fight just Green.

Ofc if we assume secret diplomacy between the too it could be just a play, but doesn't look like it from the log.

Chat is huge, looks like it was an awesome game, 199 rounds, can't go through all the logs and chat, no time for that, but nothing stinky here, I'd say hardraada outplayed everyone there that's it

I checked game of the other chat. hardraada speak a lot in all games, using diplomacy a lot. foxnews and you also engage into it. I really think there is nothing to see here.

In the game foxnews won,Game 16093974 it looks like blue suicided on hardraada at the end.

Looks like all 3 of you like conquer rome multiplayer game and that's it. The 2 games on yougoslavia are different, The Poet regularly invite people to play escalating trench game, and both hardraada and foxnews are out of them.

I think you're mistaken here.

[eddie2]

Lol done u just sucking up to your clan mate .

Na very good peace of investigating are you a private eye.

[TeeGee]

I see nothing to link these 2 accounts

CLEARED

[hutchkov]

ok thanks for investigating

[hardraada]

I have nothing to add except that I think it was a silly accusation to make. My thanks to Donelladan for his very thorough investigation and response.