This makes sense to me. Who do you suggest?Iron Butterfly wrote:
I would most certainly look at those several players who wanted to lynch the inactives as possible scum.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Jesus Christ, I thought that was deg. Bloody, shiny names! Thanks for helping out a blind man.CatchersMitt14 wrote:Mets did claim, two posts above yours. It's no wonder this game is such a mess.Ragian wrote:Mets and TWR stalling their claims? Just to let you guys know, I'm claiming late. I feel more or less confirmed town here with benga's result.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Grrr I really wish you hadnt done so two nights in a row, you'd have learnt my role and not confused the crap out of me.rishaed wrote:Quick notes:
I am really busy so i haven't been able to post as much as i'd like today...
I was told I am no longer hungry... Not sure what that means in terms of game.
Also Wing I've been jailing you from n1. Wanted your reads for later. (also why I didn't jail ptlowe)
Could be useful for later.
Storr- Happy too now I am not providing a safeclaim for a fake vig. White Rose N1 and DJ N2. I didnt want to shoot Aladdin N2 if there was a vig around shooting the obvious target too.
White Rose - Lets not start the jailkeeper debate again from the other game. Whilst I have doc in my role name, I dont have the balls to play it as a protection role until a lot lot later in the game.
Aladdin - You're a moron.
Unvote Mets - Though that could be an extraordinary fake claim.
Vote White Rose - Claim NOW
Anyone who thinks their role is more important to town than Mars, Storr or LSU needs to reevalutate their understanding of roles. Your role is not more important, we will lose these three and possibly myself over the next four nights. This is a fact, now claim.
Seperate note - Deg was your day shot on Mitch part of your role? I forget the details that you said at the time.
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
I received the gun during N1. It had nothing to do with my role, and I didn't know how many shots I had.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Seperate note - Deg was your day shot on Mitch part of your role? I forget the details that you said at the time.
I don't know why Mitch is still alive, or what the point of being able to "wound" someone was. It also had settings to "paralyze" and "kill"
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
wing, i agree with all your points here except the latter.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
White Rose - Lets not start the jailkeeper debate again from the other game. Whilst I have doc in my role name, I dont have the balls to play it as a protection role until a lot lot later in the game.
Aladdin - You're a moron.
Unvote Mets - Though that could be an extraordinary fake claim.
Vote White Rose - Claim NOW
Anyone who thinks their role is more important to town than Mars, Storr or LSU needs to reevalutate their understanding of roles. Your role is not more important, we will lose these three and possibly myself over the next four nights. This is a fact, now claim.
Only I know my role therefore i am in the best position to judge whether i should claim or not.
please remember this is surprise mafia with bastard roles......i can assure you that i am not being awkward here, i guarantee that anyone playing my role whether they have played a hundred mafia games or this is their first would not claim right now.
I only wish i could claim safely, the time will come for me to claim but definitely not yet.
I could make my life a lot easier by just claiming vt, but i cannot lie.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
We morons prefer too be corled "speshal". Peepul don't like me becorse I tork funny and dey tink I am diffrunt but dey dont unnerstand how. I twied too tell dem but dey don't lissen. But I am lissenable cops. You shood lissen and unnerstand.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote: Aladdin - You're a moron.
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Nope. Not trusting you.the white rose wrote:I am not stalling on claiming, simply not claiming, suffice to say i can only win if town wins. thats as much as you are getting right now.....there is a very good reason why i am not claiming, and anybody else in my position would do exactly the same.
you just have to trust me.
No one knows your situation.

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Dude how much do I have to bitch at you?AladdinSane wrote:We morons prefer too be corled "speshal". Peepul don't like me becorse I tork funny and dey tink I am diffrunt but dey dont unnerstand how. I twied too tell dem but dey don't lissen. But I am lissenable cops. You shood lissen and unnerstand.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote: Aladdin - You're a moron.
Your posts are not legible. Stop abusing your "post restriction "

Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Twr, when... in 2 days, after everyone else claims... whenn...

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Wing all we know is you have a killing role. There are limited if any circumstance where you should protect anyone. If you are Town you should be thanking Rishaed cause if you killed those two you could just as easily be third party sk or even mafia depending on their flip.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Grrr I really wish you hadnt done so two nights in a row, you'd have learnt my role and not confused the crap out of me.rishaed wrote:Quick notes:
I am really busy so i haven't been able to post as much as i'd like today...
I was told I am no longer hungry... Not sure what that means in terms of game.
Also Wing I've been jailing you from n1. Wanted your reads for later. (also why I didn't jail ptlowe)
Could be useful for later.
Storr- Happy too now I am not providing a safeclaim for a fake vig. White Rose N1 and DJ N2. I didnt want to shoot Aladdin N2 if there was a vig around shooting the obvious target too.
White Rose - Lets not start the jailkeeper debate again from the other game. Whilst I have doc in my role name, I dont have the balls to play it as a protection role until a lot lot later in the game.
Aladdin - You're a moron.
Unvote Mets - Though that could be an extraordinary fake claim.
Vote White Rose - Claim NOW
Anyone who thinks their role is more important to town than Mars, Storr or LSU needs to reevalutate their understanding of roles. Your role is not more important, we will lose these three and possibly myself over the next four nights. This is a fact, now claim.
Seperate note - Deg was your day shot on Mitch part of your role? I forget the details that you said at the time.
You guys could not even protect Ptlowe.
What I want to know is how we prove mafia is not lying with such a large a group of people? In the end we can only lynch one person. There is absolutely no reason for it. The majority rules.
Mtam also implied he was a Vig.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
And f*ck That making White Rose claim. He made it clear.I believe him Town. You think he is scum vote him and make him claim.
I stand by White Rose for now.
I stand by White Rose for now.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
I will try to tork good becorse I can see dat you get vewy vewy angwy wen I don't tork good. I have started going to a speech therapissed to fix my torking. Teh rain in Spain forls mainly on teh plain. See?StorrZerg wrote:Dude how much do I have to bitch at you?AladdinSane wrote:We morons prefer too be corled "speshal". Peepul don't like me becorse I tork funny and dey tink I am diffrunt but dey dont unnerstand how. I twied too tell dem but dey don't lissen. But I am lissenable cops. You shood lissen and unnerstand.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote: Aladdin - You're a moron.
Your posts are not legible. Stop abusing your "post restriction "
I like to sit hear and wunder tings. I tink you like to wunder tings to. Like, have you ever wundered wot it is dat enables teh cops to do there jobs, or who? I dont wunder about dat, becorse I no. You wood no too, if you lissened more.
I orso wunder: Do you yell at peepul iRL wen they tork diffrunt to you, and it is hard fer you too unnerstand dem? Maybe dey have a "post restriction" to. Just a thort.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Why PCM N2?Metsfanmax wrote:Well I think that's enough claims that we may as well commit. Plus I'm mad at the mods for that dead chat thing, so potentially game-breaking mass claim is fine with me. I'm Town Bullet Bill. (For those who don't know, Bullet Bill allows you to investigate one player each night and determine if they are holding a gun.) I investigated IB N1 and pcm N2 and the result came back negative both times. (Note that this result coming up negative alone would not clear someone as scum; according to the mods, I only get a positive result on a member of the mafia if they're the one carrying out the killing action that night.)
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
"You guys"?Iron Butterfly wrote: You guys could not even protect Ptlowe.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
@ slash: I see you build up a case there. I attribute it as I am high in your radar, as we used to play some time ago. You are also higher in my radar than others.
You don't think that the ptlowe claim was unnecessary, risky and in general terms a bad decision? After all, it got him NK'ed.
As you can see in those posts, I was noting a connection between ptlowe, Snorr, IB and benga, and later I include also wing in that group. To me was (still is) weird that people play organized, agreeing really fast to each other, and joining bandwagons in block. To me, specially in early days, is a scummy behaviour. You see a point there?
Now, we have indeed other elements of judgment, and pretty much has storr cleared, and also ptlowe confirmed, but at the D2 we didn't have that information.
In the other hand, whatsausage lynch was the best case of D2, and as i say then, i consider him to play against town in both of their powers, and also he lost interest in defend himself...I dotn see why my vote is suspicious for you? what about the other votes?
Now, I see this is a traditional way to play mafia, trying to find patterns, but in this game we have to consider all this claiming and extra powers on it . We have cops, doctors, gods, claimed. What are your thoughts about this mass claim thing?
You don't think that the ptlowe claim was unnecessary, risky and in general terms a bad decision? After all, it got him NK'ed.
As you can see in those posts, I was noting a connection between ptlowe, Snorr, IB and benga, and later I include also wing in that group. To me was (still is) weird that people play organized, agreeing really fast to each other, and joining bandwagons in block. To me, specially in early days, is a scummy behaviour. You see a point there?
Now, we have indeed other elements of judgment, and pretty much has storr cleared, and also ptlowe confirmed, but at the D2 we didn't have that information.
In the other hand, whatsausage lynch was the best case of D2, and as i say then, i consider him to play against town in both of their powers, and also he lost interest in defend himself...I dotn see why my vote is suspicious for you? what about the other votes?
Now, I see this is a traditional way to play mafia, trying to find patterns, but in this game we have to consider all this claiming and extra powers on it . We have cops, doctors, gods, claimed. What are your thoughts about this mass claim thing?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Do you trust /'s opinion more than Storr and LSU in this game?Falkomagno wrote: What are your thoughts about this mass claim thing?
Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
@wing i wanted more detail on why you decided those kills. and what made you think they where good targets. this should be more than a 1 liner post.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
So the only thing you can comment on is my use of "you guys"?WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:"You guys"?Iron Butterfly wrote: You guys could not even protect Ptlowe.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) N2 - Bloodthirsty Mods
It's noice to see dat now you are torking like me. Dat's me and you and CM. I wunder if der will be moor? You shood be carefool tho, becorse Mister Storr don't like it and he is has doglike powers.Ragian wrote:Wow. I'm way behind. I'm sowwy. (Also, I ate the apple and have a bwoken tooth as you can see.)
Conjectuwe. Puwely...rishaed wrote:Ragian, what makes you believe that scum have a roleblocker in this game? Is this confirmed or are you just postulating hereRagian wrote:I agree since knowing that Marashu is insane. But surely scum will block him henceforth. Also, I don't look forward to losing a strong player.Cwap. Did you suspect me? What fow?benga wrote:investigated RAg- he is town
vote Falkomagno
Am I just finding you making small mistakes all the time ow is this a post westwiction?Iron Butterfly wrote:For all practical proposes a CPR cop is a vig. He would not be protecting but targeting someone to kill.
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Fow what it is wowth, I'm good on mass claiming. I also wead the thoughts on falko with gweat intewest. Let's get Mets to claim fiwst, though. No need fow my vote yet, I assume.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Its funny how a woken toof can do dat too you. Maybe dat is orl dat is wong wit me and CM too.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Prob becorse peepul can cum back frum teh ded in dis game. Maybe yer not teh only wun wit teh Lazuass tuch.StorrZerg wrote: sick news about hotshot. BS that he didn't flip cult on death. (I DON"T GET WHAT THE f*ck IS UP WITH MODS IN GENERAL THAT WANT TO HIDE THIS STUPID ASS INFORMATION. ITS A FLIP ON DEATH GAME, SHOW THE GOD DAMN FLIP OF THE PERSON)
Is their enyfink dat dozent piss you orf?StorrZerg wrote: This shit is seriously pissing me off.
Er...pass.StorrZerg wrote: someone remind me to bitch about this more post game.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Wot's reely bothering me about dis is why you jailed Wing on N1? Why him? No-one has countercliamed a roll-block so I am inclined to beleeve you, just need you to cleer up yore targeting choice.rishaed wrote:Quick notes:
Also Wing I've been jailing you from n1. Wanted your reads for later. (also why I didn't jail ptlowe)
Could be useful for later.
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Yeah. I played with him before, and I know is a pretty balanced player. I never played with Storr before, and in general I dont like the tone of his post, he seems bossy and angry, not really useful emotions for decision making. You can be town, and still a bad player. Do you agree?WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Do you trust /'s opinion more than Storr and LSU in this game?Falkomagno wrote: What are your thoughts about this mass claim thing?
What do you think about this spreading of people that now are writing with typos? did you notice that besides aladdin and catch, also ragian is now writing like this?
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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) D3 - A life and a death
Jailing is two fold. I liked some of wings reads, and figured that storr would nto be targeted N1. N2 We had multiple claimed cops, and me jailing a cop is counterproductive (The risk of getting results vs. Not getting results plus the potential of picking the wrong cop and losing both of the results.) It is much safer for me to jail one person who's role i don't know (and it turned out alright) than another person who's role has a potential risk of kill but would render his role useless in the long term.AladdinSane wrote:Wot's reely bothering me about dis is why you jailed Wing on N1? Why him? No-one has countercliamed a roll-block so I am inclined to beleeve you, just need you to cleer up yore targeting choice.rishaed wrote:Quick notes:
Also Wing I've been jailing you from n1. Wanted your reads for later. (also why I didn't jail ptlowe)
Could be useful for later.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.

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Re: [SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia (22/28) N2 - Bloodthirsty Mods
Wow. How wong can you get?WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
The Hotshot lynch was pointless. If Hotshot was truly dangerous to town then it would have been part of all our win conditions to kill him and not an exceptions.