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[rishaed]

vote storr

may as well as he likes to claim day one anyway.

sometimes yes. I do see the advantages in early claiming. And certain roles i will claim very early. (like vig) I would claim that on any day 1 in 99% of games.

I do not recall asking for an explanation to a joke vote.

Defensive much?

You find that defensive? I just found it a regular reply. Even considering your vote was an obvious joke vote. Would you have expected him to ignore? I guess he could have, but the answer doesn't strike me as defensive at all.

Sometimes its small things D1 since there isn't much to go on. However I'm not seeing it too much right now. Basically its looking for any tells that he (and we) can get.

[Ragian]

Or trying to fabricate tells. That could be viewed as scummy too. (As well as I presume some might see my questioning IB as a defending storr.)

[StorrZerg]

ill take the free brownie point defense from you rage

[StorrZerg]

Person below me is hotshot small comment regarding vig claiming, and a joke vote on myself. No thoughts really on this. SO with that i'd like to ask him a question.

@hotshot what do you think about the 2 people i have called scummy? ptlowe, Skoffin .

You're all traitors that can be trusted, so I refuse to read any post that is not my own!

vote pancakemix Because it's obligated

And we might wanna kill the self proclaimed traitor. Seems like a poor attempt at letting mafia know he is a traitor.

Regarding this comment, with a large setup i wouldn't be surprised to have a traitor role in the game.


And regarding ptlowe

So points against you and why i believe you are scum.
2nd person to use the "x person voted for mod! "joke"" Reads to me as someone not trying to figure the game out and skimming. WHy? because they are just looking at minor things.

I follow this up with your blatant omgus. with equally terrible reasons building upon. (I don't understand how you can accuse me of attempting to be joking regarding my vote on you) The bonus however, is that you resort to saying EITHER WAY, as in, it doesn't matter what i said, only that my posts are starting to appear scummy. To which i would love further explanation. How ever i shall assume its mainly based on my idea about vig claim day 1.

To which you make a snarky remark!, yet you provide no input. Seems to me, you skimmed posts, saw several people putting it down, and decided to go along with the rest. Aka bandwagoning.

[Iron Butterfly]

vote storr

may as well as he likes to claim day one anyway.

sometimes yes. I do see the advantages in early claiming. And certain roles i will claim very early. (like vig) I would claim that on any day 1 in 99% of games.

I do not recall asking for an explanation to a joke vote.

Defensive much?

You find that defensive? I just found it a regular reply. Even considering your vote was an obvious joke vote. Would you have expected him to ignore? I guess he could have, but the answer doesn't strike me as defensive at all.

Yeh so? I was asking Storr.

[Iron Butterfly]

Or trying to fabricate tells. That could be viewed as scummy too. (As well as I presume some might see my questioning IB as a defending storr.)

So damned if you damned if you don't?

So how do YOU tell which is which?

[Ragian]

I put them together with all the other stuff that will be out there eventually.

[StorrZerg]

k you can move along to something else ib

[madmitch]

Why so hostile Storr ? Is I.B. rattling your cage ? You didn't even capitalize his initials, if you don;t respect the man at least respect the group

[AladdinSane]

Wing Commander Gingkapo is below me on the signup list and, unnless Ive missed something, he has yet to post in the actual game. Still early days tho, so I wouldn't even start to draw conclusions yet.

WC Gingkapo, if you're reading thru, how about posting something?

[madmitch]

It seems like a lot of people have not posted much or not at all,

[StorrZerg]

Wing Commander Gingkapo is below me on the signup list and, unnless Ive missed something, he has yet to post in the actual game. Still early days tho, so I wouldn't even start to draw conclusions yet.

WC Gingkapo, if you're reading thru, how about posting something?

he is on reserve, you need to look at the player list from the main page

thechuck51

is below you.

[Marashu]

Marushu wrote : "Storr, are you town this game?

What sort of a question is that? Surely everyone would answer YES to such a Question be they Town/Mafia/first dog on Mars or whatever weird roles have been planned...

What did you hope to find out/advertise by asking this???

Storr sometimes claims 3P. This was my invite for him to do so. Now he's either town or mafia, because if he gets found out as not being town, we can hold him to this. That was my reasoning, anyway.

Below me in the list is... madmitch. Well, then.

fp'd by mitch, Storr

[madmitch]

@ Mars

[AladdinSane]

Wing Commander Gingkapo is below me on the signup list and, unnless Ive missed something, he has yet to post in the actual game. Still early days tho, so I wouldn't even start to draw conclusions yet.

WC Gingkapo, if you're reading thru, how about posting something?

he is on reserve, you need to look at the player list from the main page

thechuck51

is below you.

Ah, yes, you are right. All this mispeling is kiling my brain cels by the milion. Well, thechuck hasn't posted either, I think, so my comment from above applies to him now. How about posting, thechuck?

[Metsfanmax]

Marushu wrote : "Storr, are you town this game?

What sort of a question is that? Surely everyone would answer YES to such a Question be they Town/Mafia/first dog on Mars or whatever weird roles have been planned...

What did you hope to find out/advertise by asking this???

Storr sometimes claims 3P. This was my invite for him to do so. Now he's either town or mafia, because if he gets found out as not being town, we can hold him to this. That was my reasoning, anyway.

Below me in the list is... madmitch. Well, then.

fp'd by mitch, Storr

This is nonsense. First, Storr doesn't need anybody to ask him to claim; he'll claim if he feels like it. Second, of course if he's 3P and doesn't want to claim that yet, he's going to lie and say he's town. If he later claims 3P, we wouldn't lynch him just because he said now that he's town.

[pancakemix]

Obligatory Vote Skoffin for old time's sake

I strongly suggest vig / day vig to claim day 1

Are there any other tips you have to help town lose as fast as possible?

Vote metsfanmax for making a serious comment in the first 24 hours, for shame

Sorry, joke phase is over. Serious business plz.

God, you're boring

Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?

You're all traitors that can be trusted, so I refuse to read any post that is not my own!

vote pancakemix Because it's obligated

I'm glad I put mine in before I got to this

Both IB and Storr are overreacting. Stahp it.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Rest assured I am watching.

[StorrZerg]

Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?

not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has. Vig at best can kill an anti town. Vig at worse can kill a town. Vig could also be lynched, because we wouldn't believe the claim latter in the game.

pcm what do you think of the idea that skoffin is trying to let mafia know he is the traitor?

[Metsfanmax]

Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?

not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.

I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.

[Iron Butterfly]

I put them together with all the other stuff that will be out there eventually.

But of course....Duh.

[Iron Butterfly]

It seems like a lot of people have not posted much or not at all,

I guarantee there will be several who are in this game by name alone.

A game this size needs to be managed to insure people are accounted for.

Hah and who should be below me but VIRUS.

How long should I wait to accuse him of hiding??

[StorrZerg]

Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?

not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.

I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.

to which town has more roles than mafia, and more night actions, to which they wouldn't be risking a kill shot to be found out. I'd love to trade a vig for a mafia. wouldn't you? lol?

[Metsfanmax]

Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?

not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.

I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.

to which town has more roles than mafia, and more night actions, to which they wouldn't be risking a kill shot to be found out. I'd love to trade a vig for a mafia. wouldn't you? lol?

Well if the reasoning is that they're not going to shoot at the vig, then you've just helped narrow down the scope for who they need to look at, without clearly benefiting town.

[rishaed]

Seriously though, to what end would the vig claim? I read your explanation, but are you not concerned about scum influence on their action?

not really. any action used on the vig means an open playing field for what ever else town has.

I would argue that a vig is in the top half of the roles the town wants to support. Therefore the expected outcome of mafia shooting someone randomly other than a vig is worse than shooting at the vig. So it is in their interest to shoot the vig. Yes, they'd love to get a cop or doc if they can, but on N1 they don't have that information yet, so the vig is a pretty reasonable choice.

to which town has more roles than mafia, and more night actions, to which they wouldn't be risking a kill shot to be found out. I'd love to trade a vig for a mafia. wouldn't you? lol?

Explain on how it would be a trade? I mean unless the Vig has reallly accurate reads or gets lucky, it is most likely that the mafia will leave him alone N1 b/c of probabilities. More likely you would be trading a vig and a few town, without the guarantee of even getting one scum out of it.