"Monthly Leaders" aka Bollocks

[nooruddinaftab]

It's such bullshit.I saw thhat noorud whatever his name is guy had gotten himself down to Sergeant or Corporal just at the end of September to set up his run...pathetic.

There have been a couple of C&A cases about him on these points already though.

I see things like that and I just foe.

You see things like that and foe? seriously , you have foed me since we played 107 multiplayer classic games, and I kicked your wanna be over smart talking ass. and you were not able to defend your stupidity.

[iAmCaffeine]

It's such bullshit.I saw thhat noorud whatever his name is guy had gotten himself down to Sergeant or Corporal just at the end of September to set up his run...pathetic.

There have been a couple of C&A cases about him on these points already though.

I see things like that and I just foe.

You see things like that and foe? seriously , you have foed me since we played 107 multiplayer classic games, and I kicked your wanna be over smart talking ass. and you were not able to defend your stupidity.

Pot meet kettle.

[nooruddinaftab]

It's such bullshit.I saw thhat noorud whatever his name is guy had gotten himself down to Sergeant or Corporal just at the end of September to set up his run...pathetic.

There have been a couple of C&A cases about him on these points already though.

I see things like that and I just foe.

You see things like that and foe? seriously , you have foed me since we played 107 multiplayer classic games, and I kicked your wanna be over smart talking ass. and you were not able to defend your stupidity.

Pot meet kettle.

fucks given to this whole thread = zero
fucks given at Pot Meet kettle = zero
fucks given at your throwing tournament games = zero
fucks given when you got warned for doing that = zero

so why you give so much fucks for what I do and what I not do?

[iAmCaffeine]

Yes, let's bring a totally unrelated incident into this and pretend it somehow gives you an argument to start from. I wasn't even warned, but okay.

I don't care about you, I care about the fact that medals and prizes are given away for cheating the system, to players like you.

[nooruddinaftab]

Yes, let's bring a totally unrelated incident into this and pretend it somehow gives you an argument to start from. I wasn't even warned, but okay.

I don't care about you, I care about the fact that medals and prizes are given away for cheating the system, to players like you.

ok, its good you don't care about me. but what about the medals and prizes given away in tournaments to cheaters like you and many others? bloody hypocrites!

[Extreme Ways]

Here's some advice.

If you want to attack Caff on the C&A-case, start a fucking topic about it or necro that shit. This is about monthly leaders and the select group of people who cheat the system, not "cheating in tournaments". Now I know you know that what you're doing isn't against the rules, and so are Caff's actions in that tourney.

People who abuse the system effectively made those scoreboards and associated medals lose its value. If I for some reason check out somebody's medals and notice a "most improved", I don't assume the guy is a genius or a natural, I assume the guy abused the system.

[nooruddinaftab]

Here's some advice.

If you want to attack Caff on the C&A-case, start a fucking topic about it or necro that shit. This is about monthly leaders and the select group of people who cheat the system, not "cheating in tournaments". Now I know you know that what you're doing isn't against the rules, and so are Caff's actions in that tourney.

People who abuse the system effectively made those scoreboards and associated medals lose its value. If I for some reason check out somebody's medals and notice a "most improved", I don't assume the guy is a genius or a natural, I assume the guy abused the system.

yes, what i did is not fucking against the rules and neither cheating. blabbering about this is easy.
so let me ask you , how much 1vs1 games you have right now? oh i checked there are fkin 2.
I challenge you to open 1vs1 public games and keep on opening till your active 1vs1 games reach 400+, finish all them without fluctuating your rank and without being accused of cheating.
I bet your rank will be as low as cook and you will accused of cheating( point dumping) by stupid no lifers, trolls like your self, Caff , ronc and many others.

if playing that much games mean abusing the system then I will do it again.

so here's some advice, suck it up princess.

[iAmCaffeine]

Again you're simply trying to bring me down to your level with my apparent "cheating". Where have I cheated please? In what report have I received punishment for my actions in a tournament? I'd love to know.

I see you're trying to hide behind the "I play loads of 1v1 games" argument, which is a bullshit smokescreen. Of course you do; they finish quicker! You deliberately play so many so that when you purposely time your losses your score drops a huge amount, and then you ensure all your wins come in at a certain time by delaying them as long as possible, thereby giving you the maximum score increase.

You do realise nobody thinks you're actually a good player because of this right? Anyone can do it - josko did it and so have many others. You're just one of a sad little group.

Sorry about your little butt.

[Extreme Ways]

Here's some advice.

If you want to attack Caff on the C&A-case, start a fucking topic about it or necro that shit. This is about monthly leaders and the select group of people who cheat the system, not "cheating in tournaments". Now I know you know that what you're doing isn't against the rules, and so are Caff's actions in that tourney.

People who abuse the system effectively made those scoreboards and associated medals lose its value. If I for some reason check out somebody's medals and notice a "most improved", I don't assume the guy is a genius or a natural, I assume the guy abused the system.

yes, what i did is not fucking against the rules and neither cheating. blabbering about this is easy.
so let me ask you , how much 1vs1 games you have right now? oh i checked there are fkin 2.
I challenge you to open 1vs1 public games and keep on opening till your active 1vs1 games reach 400+, finish all them without fluctuating your rank and without being accused of cheating.
I bet your rank will be as low as cook and you will accused of cheating( point dumping) by stupid no lifers, trolls like your self, Caff , ronc and many others.

if playing that much games mean abusing the system then I will do it again.

so here's some advice, suck it up princess.

You checked out my active games, nice. I don't play much games at all, 30 max. More than that and I won't be able to spend enough time on all of em. However, there are enough players that DO in fact play a a ton of games and fluctuate heavily. Westbo and Ollie come to mind. Have they ever reached a low point you did? If you can't compare apple and pears and attack me on it, why not actually compare 2 apples and attack my point on that. Just because I don't play the same amount of game doesn't mean I know nothing abuot fluctuating ranks. Do you know how many games I need to lose without winning to drop to a cook? I'm actually not a shit player, the reason I would fall down to a cook and accused of cheating is because I would deadbeat a lot.

I know it's not cheating. Cheating the system == abusing a loophole for me, if my non-native English let me down here I'm sorry, abusing loopholes is what I meant. That scoreboard is meant to reflect the actual most improved players, but because people stall their wins and lose asap it doesn't actually reflect that.

[Extreme Ways]

And to add onto this. I think you're missing the point of the entire topic. The OP was an example of somebody, in this case you, abusing the scoreboard because it was possible with as finalizing point:

Personally, I think this scoreboard should just be removed. However, it doesn't seem to be in bigWhams nature to correct his mistakes so my aim is slightly different; if we can get rules/guidelines adjusted to not tolerate this kind of play and treatment of other players, or at least prevent it from counting towards the Monthly Leaders Bollocks Scorebaord, then that would be valuable progress.

Nobody is accusing you of cheating (not anymore, at least). We're mad because the scoreboard can be exploited and people are actively doing this.

[iAmCaffeine]

I know it's not cheating. Cheating the system == abusing a loophole for me, if my non-native English let me down here I'm sorry, abusing loopholes is what I meant. That scoreboard is meant to reflect the actual most improved players, but because people stall their wins and lose asap it doesn't actually reflect that.

100%

I have over 200 active games at a time. My rank fluctuates from 1800 to 2800 in 2-3 weeks yet I don't play the system to gain medals. I earn them legitimately like most others.

[nooruddinaftab]

Here's some advice.

If you want to attack Caff on the C&A-case, start a fucking topic about it or necro that shit. This is about monthly leaders and the select group of people who cheat the system, not "cheating in tournaments". Now I know you know that what you're doing isn't against the rules, and so are Caff's actions in that tourney.

People who abuse the system effectively made those scoreboards and associated medals lose its value. If I for some reason check out somebody's medals and notice a "most improved", I don't assume the guy is a genius or a natural, I assume the guy abused the system.

yes, what i did is not fucking against the rules and neither cheating. blabbering about this is easy.
so let me ask you , how much 1vs1 games you have right now? oh i checked there are fkin 2.
I challenge you to open 1vs1 public games and keep on opening till your active 1vs1 games reach 400+, finish all them without fluctuating your rank and without being accused of cheating.
I bet your rank will be as low as cook and you will accused of cheating( point dumping) by stupid no lifers, trolls like your self, Caff , ronc and many others.

if playing that much games mean abusing the system then I will do it again.

so here's some advice, suck it up princess.

You checked out my active games, nice. I don't play much games at all, 30 max. More than that and I won't be able to spend enough time on all of em. However, there are enough players that DO in fact play a a ton of games and fluctuate heavily. Westbo and Ollie come to mind. Have they ever reached a low point you did? If you can't compare apple and pears and attack me on it, why not actually compare 2 apples and attack my point on that. Just because I don't play the same amount of game doesn't mean I know nothing abuot fluctuating ranks. Do you know how many games I need to lose without winning to drop to a cook? I'm actually not a shit player, the reason I would fall down to a cook and accused of cheating is because I would deadbeat a lot.

I know it's not cheating. Cheating the system == abusing a loophole for me, if my non-native English let me down here I'm sorry, abusing loopholes is what I meant. That scoreboard is meant to reflect the actual most improved players, but because people stall their wins and lose asap it doesn't actually reflect that.

yea i know, you have to lose only 22 games, losing 100 points per game to drop to cook.

[Extreme Ways]

I like how you think being a smartass helps your case.

I challenge you to open 1vs1 public games and keep on opening till your active 1vs1 games reach 400+, finish all them without fluctuating your rank and without being accused of cheating.

Definition of fluctuating from dictionary.reference.com, no idea if it's a valid source but definition won't change much.

verb (used without object), fluctuated, fluctuating.
1.
to change continually; shift back and forth; vary irregularly:
The price of gold fluctuated wildly last month.
2.
to move back and forth in waves.

Now check the OP. The picture doesn't show CC-time, but it was posted on the 2nd of November so can't be late. You raised your points by 57% within 2 days. Your "fluctuating" means that over the course of 2 months, you first slowly but steady drop and then suddenly rise to your old rank within a week.

[nooruddinaftab]

I like how you think being a smartass helps your case.

I challenge you to open 1vs1 public games and keep on opening till your active 1vs1 games reach 400+, finish all them without fluctuating your rank and without being accused of cheating.

Definition of fluctuating from dictionary.reference.com, no idea if it's a valid source but definition won't change much.

verb (used without object), fluctuated, fluctuating.
1.
to change continually; shift back and forth; vary irregularly:
The price of gold fluctuated wildly last month.
2.
to move back and forth in waves.

Now check the OP. The picture doesn't show CC-time, but it was posted on the 2nd of November so can't be late. You raised your points by 57% within 2 days. Your "fluctuating" means that over the course of 2 months, you first slowly but steady drop and then suddenly rise to your old rank within a week.

no you are wrong, it was not a slow drop, I was finishing 100+ games per day. so it dropped like hell. and then again rose back. it was mere a chance that it happened on the last dates of September. my score dropped as low as 1017 in September. but you can clearly see that my starting score for October was 1306. If i was manipulating score board I would have stayed near 1017 score and not rose to 1306. eventually winning the leader board.

[Extreme Ways]

I like how you think being a smartass helps your case.

I challenge you to open 1vs1 public games and keep on opening till your active 1vs1 games reach 400+, finish all them without fluctuating your rank and without being accused of cheating.

Definition of fluctuating from dictionary.reference.com, no idea if it's a valid source but definition won't change much.

verb (used without object), fluctuated, fluctuating.
1.
to change continually; shift back and forth; vary irregularly:
The price of gold fluctuated wildly last month.
2.
to move back and forth in waves.

Now check the OP. The picture doesn't show CC-time, but it was posted on the 2nd of November so can't be late. You raised your points by 57% within 2 days. Your "fluctuating" means that over the course of 2 months, you first slowly but steady drop and then suddenly rise to your old rank within a week.

no you are wrong, it was not a slow drop, I was finishing 100+ games per day. so it dropped like hell. and then again rose back. it was mere a chance that it happened on the last dates of September. my score dropped as low as 1017 in September. but you can clearly see that my starting score for October was 1306. If i was manipulating score board I would have stayed near 1017 score and not rose to 1306. eventually winning the leader board.

So lets assume you're right and your intention wasn't to abuse the loophole, lets get back on topic. Do we both agree that the whole thing is bullshit because it happened by mere chance?

[iAmCaffeine]

It didn't happen by chance. There have been at least two occasions when you've done this before. Are we supposed to believe every time it's a coincidence?

[nooruddinaftab]

It didn't happen by chance. There have been at least two occasions when you've done this before. Are we supposed to believe every time it's a coincidence?

well its your choice.
I did not even manipulated the leader board the last time I was accused. see below.


I did not went for medal or CC credits.

[Extreme Ways]

Totally off-topic, I like your "How to fix Window..." bookmark.

[Donelladan]

no you are wrong, it was not a slow drop, I was finishing 100+ games per day. so it dropped like hell. and then again rose back. it was mere a chance that it happened on the last dates of September. my score dropped as low as 1017 in September. but you can clearly see that my starting score for October was 1306. If i was manipulating score board I would have stayed near 1017 score and not rose to 1306. eventually winning the leader board.

Seriously.... It is not against the rule. Just admit you did it, have that much courage.
Nobody is believing you. Insisting you didnt do it on purpose is ridiculous, and kind of insulting.

[Coler]

He cares enough about what people think of him to try and say he isn't doing it, but not enough about what people think of him not to do it in the first place...there's a truly tormented individual right there.

I inferred this from quoted posts and then got curious enough to unfoe him momentarily. I thought naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa he's not denying this...is he ??? I mean come on, how could you think people are that stupid...unless of course you only had yourself to go by.

[nooruddinaftab]

I will win the December leader board,
Caff will accuse me of over confidence now

peace!

[iAmCaffeine]

I will win the December leader board,
Caff will accuse me of over confidence now

peace!

Why would I accuse you of being overconfident? What you're doing isn't hard, just pathetic. If you're not confident in completing such easy methods then perhaps you're challenged in more ways than one. Something to consider.

[nooruddinaftab]

I will win the December leader board,
Caff will accuse me of over confidence now

peace!

Why would I accuse you of being overconfident? What you're doing isn't hard, just pathetic. If you're not confident in completing such easy methods then perhaps you're challenged in more ways than one. Something to consider.

ok. challenge accepted. This time I will get to the top without hitting low.

[iAmCaffeine]

I will win the December leader board,
Caff will accuse me of over confidence now

peace!

Why would I accuse you of being overconfident? What you're doing isn't hard, just pathetic. If you're not confident in completing such easy methods then perhaps you're challenged in more ways than one. Something to consider.

ok. challenge accepted. This time I will get to the top without hitting low.

I'll let you know when I care.