[CC5] Finals: TOFU vs. FALL - 29-31 - FALL Win FINAL 12/24

by **IcePack** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:51 pm

6-3!

by **aad0906** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:56 pm

Pot Mosbi Quads has Fallen!

by **iAmCaffeine** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:21 pm

IcePack wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:The point is the hypocrisy of criticising another clan's home maps whilst fielding similarly luck-based ones yourselves. Although it's not so much plural, more just nolefan.

Everyone has an opinion on maps and their "luck factor". I'm sure TOFU could play us on Lunar War and "luckily" beat us 80 times out of a 100. I'm sure there are a few maps that others would also consider lucky that we could play and do the same thing. So I find the notion of it being luck based (on either side) amusing, if it was all luck you would expect to see it much closer over time.

I agree with you entirely. Do note that I didn't criticise any map selections.

Dako wrote:iAmCaffeine please don't go. I enjoy your posts and this thread is too quiet anyway.

I'm unfamiliar with this type of term and therefore don't know how to react. I apologise if this is not fulfilling.

nolefan5311 wrote:Glad I could apparently jump start this thread.

And it was a moment of frustration, seeing TOFU players grab 7 regions on their first turn to me and my partner grabbing 3 and effectively ending the game before it could get started. Lunar War is one of those "lucky" maps, there really isn't a question about it, when good one good turn of dice can jump your deploy from 3 to 9. I'm not going to debate City Mogul or WWII Poland because I don't much play those maps, but my experiences on Poland is that it's just like any other conquest map. And more to the point, my comment wasn't so much chastising TOFU for picking that map as it was general annoyance after a loss on a map I think is silly.

As far as our favorite CC5 spectator is concerned, he does nothing more than sit in waiting for a Fallen member to post so he can chime in to defend whatever clan we happen to be facing. He sat there in the LHDD thread for weeks giving Fallen members shit, and he's doing the same thing here. It would be different if he had substantive input about the war in general, perhaps some running commentary about wins and losses or close games or something. Instead, he just wants to be a pain in the ass.

Everyone gets frustrated with the luck involved in these games, even more so if the occurrence takes place on a map where the dice can play a much more significant factor. I simply posted due to the hypocrisy oozing out on all sides. For example, we lost Pot Mosbi to OSA due to two dice fails; the latter and more important of which was a 10v6 (not guaranteed, evidently) which would've eliminated a stack of 30+ by killing a player, who would then not have been able to kill another member of our team.

Shit happens.

Yes, that's exactly what I do! I'm sure over 64% of the views on this thread where just me in the morning, sipping my caramel latte and hitting refresh every 3.5 minutes patiently awaiting a Fallen comrade to comment. I choose not to comment on wins/losses because particular Fallen members seem to be having a 100m sprint to be the first to post with every new conquest. I shall not be the one to take that joy away my friend.

I find it amusing that you believe I have some kind of vendetta against Fallen. As it happens, I have good relationships with several TOFU and LHDD players, hence my support. There are players in the clan I like, others I don't. It's exactly the same with every clan here, apart from Aeternus, obviously. In the LHDD war thread half of my comments were actually about the score and friendly conversation with Hussards members. Sorry if that offended you. The heat didn't rise until one of your members decided to treat people I respect with disdain, in which case I got involved. Apologies if you believe that actions without consequences are the way of the world and when one man hits another the correct procedure is to clap and cheer.

Have a jolly now.

by **GoranZ** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:45 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

Seems like you are jealous to our clan

iAmCaffeine wrote:For example, we lost Pot Mosbi to OSA due to two dice fails

We had 3 dice-fails(in the first 3-4 rounds) to eliminate orange in Pot Mosbi game we previously won

betiko wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

Why don't you go away? You were asked to leave the LHDD thread alone because all you were doing was flaming, and now you're popping up here to flame again.

he is right though. It's pretty funny to hear that comment from your clan given all your home maps involving first turn drop, and his examples are perfect. There is no flaming in his comment, he's just giving his opinion, chill out.

You should not comment our game choices, your clan already burn from them :lol:

Or maybe you clan burn because you are french

by **Dako** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:31 pm

If Fallen needs more support they can always cry for josko.

by **rockfist** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:59 pm

To be fair at least two of the dice fails were less than 50%. I agree you should've taken out Orange earlier but when you did you were less than 50% to do so. And Red had extremely good dice in his last round against me and I had terrible dice in my last round so we'll call the luck even say gg and move on.

by **IcePack** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:02 pm

rockfist wrote:To be fair at least two of the dice fails were less than 50%. I agree you should've taken out Orange earlier but when you did you were less than 50% to do so. And Red had extremely good dice in his last round against me and I had terrible dice in my last round so we'll call the luck even say gg and move on.

For some reason every time I see your name I think of lead foot. I think you would make an awesome duo.

"Next up - rockfist and leadfoot!"

by **rockfist** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:12 pm

My brother, who used to play this game had that nickname. And we did make a good doubles team. I used to play with him and a couple of his colleagues, one of which andyr601 I believe was in your clan.

by **IcePack** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:14 pm

rockfist wrote:My brother, who used to play this game had that nickname. And we did make a good doubles team. I used to play with him and a couple of his colleagues, one of which andyr601 I believe was in your clan.

Very cool! Hahaha funny how that works

Yes andyr601 was in our clan, but he left the site on a break awhile ago and never came back

He has been missed

by **rockfist** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:39 pm

I only met Andy a couple of times IRL. My brother moved to another city so he never sees Andy any more.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:47 pm

GoranZ wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

Seems like you are jealous to our clan

Jealous of what? I have no reason to be jealous of you or the clan you're in. I could justify my reasoning but for you, of all people, I had to force myself even to respond.

by **IcePack** on Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:34 pm

City Mogul has FALLEN! 7-4

by **IcePack** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:54 pm

Third round was exchanged on the 18th. All the home teams have accepted invites and waiting for aways on both sides to be invited.
Cheers & GL in the 3rd Round.
IcePack

by **donche64** on Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:29 pm

So it's currently 7-4 but what are the predictions? FALL running away with batch 1 as they did against us or a closer total?

by **rockfist** on Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:24 pm

Fall will likely be ahead after the first batch but it should be managable. It's 7-6 right now them, not 7-4.

I think the second batch looks better than the first for us.

by **IcePack** on Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:01 am

rockfist wrote:Fall will likely be ahead after the first batch but it should be managable. It's 7-6 right now them, not 7-4.

I think the second batch looks better than the first for us.

I'll give numbers but others might not agree

Round 1: (including leans)
FALL 11
Neutral 2
TOFU 7

Round 2:
FALL 6
Neutral 6
TOFU 7

Round 3 just went out but haven't gotten anywhere yet.

Estimated / Peojected Totals:
FALL 17
Neutral 8
TOFU 14

by **rockfist** on Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:17 am

I don't 100% agree but I don't see anything in that where I'd say its shockingly wrong, although there are 20 games in the 2nd set not 19.

by **IcePack** on Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:32 am

rockfist wrote:I don't 100% agree but I don't see anything in that where I'd say its shockingly wrong, although there are 20 games in the 2nd set not 19.

Missed 1, add a neutral / kinda leaning TOFU