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Re: Equality of access

Postby ZornSlayer on Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:10 pm

Nymeria Stark wrote:It's definitely safe to assume someone is a straight white male if they don't state otherwise.


Honestly I don't like that. All they had to do is talk generic or check my profile. :P But I don't rub it in with 'them'.

But why is the OP complaining about this before actually doing a check/census of who/what the membership here actually is? It might surprise you if you actually asked.
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Re: Where are all the brothers at?!!

Postby clangfield on Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:15 am

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clangfield wrote:I concede that the site is not accessible to the blind, and it's probably offering limited enjoyment to those without literacy or numeracy, but what would stop anyone else from joining (other than the fundamental issues with the site/game itself)?


i have a problem with this statement, because you seem to be doing just fine on here... ;) ;) ;) and seriously, "suck it up, cupcake", DETERRED you from CC? yeah, you are all over the forums and you play games... what are your feelings on, "Sorry about your little butt"? you seem think i invented "SUCK IT UP, CUPCAKE", but i didn't. and again, it is not homophobic.


It's not hard to find instances where it is used as a homophobic slur, eg: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/10/06/pe ... er-selfie/

I'm not gay, so it's not an insult to me, but I can see how it might be to others, and the attitude has made me consider my continued involvement with the site. I don't see the other comment as phobic, but just a bit demeaning and, frankly, pathetic. Maybe it's an American thing but I think that there are many better, more helpful and encouraging, ways to express the same view.

Back to the OP: I did overlook one group who are being excluded - the orthodox religious. Certainly Jews, maybe others, who aren't allowed to "strike a spark" on the sabbath and therefore can't take their turns on Friday/Saturday. I believe the idea of a "religious pass" was mooted before, but not taken up, presumably due to being an inconvenience to others.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:20 am

I also find the language apartheid troubling.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:20 am

Foreigners in their pen, where they belong.
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Re: Where are all the brothers at?!!

Postby owenshooter on Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:57 am

clangfield wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
clangfield wrote:I concede that the site is not accessible to the blind, and it's probably offering limited enjoyment to those without literacy or numeracy, but what would stop anyone else from joining (other than the fundamental issues with the site/game itself)?


i have a problem with this statement, because you seem to be doing just fine on here... ;) ;) ;) and seriously, "suck it up, cupcake", DETERRED you from CC? yeah, you are all over the forums and you play games... what are your feelings on, "Sorry about your little butt"? you seem think i invented "SUCK IT UP, CUPCAKE", but i didn't. and again, it is not homophobic.


It's not hard to find instances where it is used as a homophobic slur, eg: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/10/06/pe ... er-selfie/

I'm not gay, so it's not an insult to me, but I can see how it might be to others, and the attitude has made me consider my continued involvement with the site. I don't see the other comment as phobic, but just a bit demeaning and, frankly, pathetic. Maybe it's an American thing but I think that there are many better, more helpful and encouraging, ways to express the same view.

Back to the OP: I did overlook one group who are being excluded - the orthodox religious. Certainly Jews, maybe others, who aren't allowed to "strike a spark" on the sabbath and therefore can't take their turns on Friday/Saturday. I believe the idea of a "religious pass" was mooted before, but not taken up, presumably due to being an inconvenience to others.

if you feel so strongly, then put the term in C&A and have the site forbid it, add it to the bigotry guidelines. go ahead and do it, your crusade is becoming tiresome. in other words, put up or shut up. your droning has worn on just about every regular forum goer... good luck!!-JĆ©sus noir

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Re: Equality of access

Postby Lord Arioch on Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:41 am

Where do we swedes qualify in? I mean in most countries eyes we are pretty "red" as in communist red :)
Im white and male but i dont really consider myself part of that group never has i dont roam the country side in an old volvo flipping over cows and singing Eddie Medusa ... Or whatever redneck hillbilly music uyour country has ... (Mrs whats Chinas version of hillbilly trash music by the way?)

And plz dont fu&%Ā¤ing sterotype me;)
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Re: Equality of access

Postby owenshooter on Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:18 pm

Lord Arioch wrote:Where do we swedes qualify in?


jag Ƥlskar dig!!! and i knew that from dating a swedish girl for a few years in school!!!-JƩsus noir

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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:01 pm

Lord Arioch wrote:Where do we swedes qualify in? I mean in most countries eyes we are pretty "red" as in communist red :)
Im white and male but i dont really consider myself part of that group never has i dont roam the country side in an old volvo flipping over cows and singing Eddie Medusa ... Or whatever redneck hillbilly music uyour country has ... (Mrs whats Chinas version of hillbilly trash music by the way?)

And plz dont fu&%Ā¤ing sterotype me;)


Those people don't understand the meaning of the word 'communism'.

Straight white male, you are one of the patriarch majority!
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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:03 pm

And the Chinese equivalent of hillbilly music is god awful electronic dance music ;)



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Re: Equality of access

Postby Lord Arioch on Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:08 pm

hrm after studying marx for a year at college and being a good ol anarchist for like 30 years ... and growing up with a mom who marched with me in the vietnam demos here yadda yadda .. i think i got a pretty good idea abot politcs .. and china, like soviet union got NO FRIGGING clue about what communism is about!......
The closest in modern time ought to be the Kronstadt people before Lenin ordered trotty boy to friggin off em all... thta was the death of commie rev! and as Marx said it cant succed in a low developed country ... :-s

Everybody corrupts Marx, and the rest ...

By the way as ive told u before im not like totally straight .. so get of ur horse! :mrgreen:
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Re: Equality of access

Postby owenshooter on Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:24 pm

but the chinese people have one hero and one hero alone, proving they get what this thread is about, even if they have a warped view of communism...




with jaden in their hearts and minds, they have to be a wonderful people...-JĆ©sus noir
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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:25 pm

No one in modern China claims that it is communist. The government always throws around the phrase 'socialism with Chinese characteristics', but not many people really think about or care what that means.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:29 pm

A whole hour of migrant street vendor garbage:

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Re: Equality of access

Postby owenshooter on Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:28 pm

mrswdk wrote:A whole hour of migrant street vendor garbage:




speaking of chinese garbage...




Yao who?!!!-JĆ©sus noir
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Re: Equality of access

Postby jgordon1111 on Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:17 pm

Hmm , I know everyone likes to label everything nowdays, but is it really CCs fault on who does and doesn't play on this site, c'mon really,if your a hater looking to pick a fight take it elsewhere, most are here, to enjoy the game I looked at this because Owen had replied, and most of his stuff is interesting, not all of it correct, but interesting.and oh we are allowed to have opinions,just make sure yours has a basis,reason other than hate oriented,solution if you want a variety of players invite people you know or hangout with to play TADA.a perfect solution to a possible problem.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby riskllama on Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:52 pm

mrs isn't here to hate, merely to troll and push the chinese agenda. wait, those could be considered the same thing. btw mrs, if china is so goddamn wonderful, why did u leave? respiratory problems?
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Re: Equality of access

Postby riskllama on Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:09 pm

offspring suck, DY...
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Re: Equality of access

Postby Nymeria Stark on Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:56 am

mrswdk wrote:I also find the language apartheid troubling.


What should be troubling you is your preposterous use of analogies. Fascism and apartheid are not trivial matters. Using them to describe piracy laws and the division of forums into languages makes me wonder whether you know anything about history and question your intelligence in general.

It makes perfect sense to divide the forum by languages. This forum is solely for communication and that is done using language. Regardless of which language(s) you speak, it'd be annoying and unnecessary to have to filter out the post you don't understand. Why do we have sub-forums and threads at all? Why isn't the whole forum just one chaotic thread for all topics and languages? Because it'd suck.

40 posts and an argument between clangfield and owenshooter later and this thread is still shit. We have no idea what the % of straight white males is and it is completely irrelevant. The internet may be the only place where people are actually judged solely for their behaviour. This may be unappealing to some who would rather receive recognition or special treatment for race and gender. Tough shit.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby waauw on Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:45 am

I will be taking this opportunity to point out that Apartheid are Afrikaners, a form of dutch. The only true Apartheid people here on CC are the VDLL clan O:)
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Re: Equality of access

Postby BoganGod on Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:27 am

On all available evidence the majority of CC users are bi-sexual. As in buy sex only, being only nerdy enough to turn women off. Not quite nerdy enough to make motza tech dollars and turn women on.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby Coler on Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:10 am

mrswdk wrote:I also find the language apartheid troubling.


Insightful, apposite, interesting, appropriate.

None of these words apply to this post.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:10 pm

I see no reason why General Discussion, Off Topics and other forums like it should be limited to English only. Doing so pushes away those who speak no or limited English, with no real gain made.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby clangfield on Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:44 pm

mrswdk wrote:I see no reason why General Discussion, Off Topics and other forums like it should be limited to English only. Doing so pushes away those who speak no or limited English, with no real gain made.

Choosing any other language would alienate even more people though.
Whilst admittedly more actual people in the world have some form of Chinese as their first language, they are very predominantly in China.
The art and purpose of communication is to get the reader or listener to understand what you are trying to convey; more people have a good enough appreciation of the various forms of English for that to be the most likely language to be successful. In most areas it is likely to be the second language if it's not the first; it's also the default language for international communication (apart from a few institutions that give parity to French).
You also have to face the fact that a lot of English speakers don't speak anything else.
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Re: Equality of access

Postby mrswdk on Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:22 pm

I never said a rule requiring English should be replaced with a rule requiring another language.
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