Ancient Mediterrainian Map

fisherman5 · Post by **fisherman5** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:03 pm

so i found this today while i was randomly surfing the web and thought it would make a good map i know it says its copy righted but this is only something to get the general idea from. theres 76 territories right now i think

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu May 31, 2007 4:13 am

If its a historical map i dont think the copyright will apply. The copyright will be for that paticular image which will only be used as a template.

as for playability. it looks promising but its much like the europe map. it will need to be made very diffirent.

The Random One · Post by **The Random One** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:07 am

It's rather similar to several maps in development that are about empires that spanned to the Mediterranean.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:11 am

The game play ill have to be uber diffirent from the rest if this map was to go anywhere : \

pepperonibread · Post by **pepperonibread** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:14 am

Yeah, it's not really similar to the Europe map, but it looks a lot like the Rome map that's currently being made (it's at least of the same area).

snufkin · Post by **snufkin** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:17 am

What years.. hmm

It´s a fantasy map for some game?
Please use real history if you use real countries. (imho of course)

fisherman5 · Post by **fisherman5** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:04 am

i have no clue what years this is for i just grabbed it off google images

as for the playability i have a few ideas
1. the whole sea will be playable here not just the islands
2.You will only be able to attack sea territories from territories with harbors and vice versa or thats what i was thinking

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:12 am

its not realy an new idea is it : \. try think more along teh lines of. . .

oh i dont know im keeping all teh good ideas to myself

RobinJ · Post by **RobinJ** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:32 am

Nice idea but:
1) It is kind of similar to the Europe map
2) It is almost identical to the Roman Empire map (in development) except with a few different countries stuck in.

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:45 pm

The Random One wrote:It's rather similar to several maps in development that are about empires that spanned to the Mediterranean.

ya

fisherman5 · Post by **fisherman5** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:52 pm

well i'm not stuck on this area i just want to make a map where the ocean and land is playable any suggestions on other areas i will look into

Sparqs · Post by **Sparqs** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:16 pm

This does cover some of the same geography as other maps, but I don't think that means it doesn't have a place, especially as you mention concentrating on the seas. I think it's a good idea. I like the way the seas are broken down into sub-territories.

In order to highlight the naval aspect, I think some sea-specific gameplay would be good. Two thoughts for this:

Fast Seas Set it up so that sea spaces share borders with each adjacent space and each space adjacent to an adjacent sea (i.e. on this map, Punic Sea could attack Leptis and Ligurian Sea, but not Massilia).

Productive Seas Give each sea a territory bonus that auto-deploys on itself.

fisherman5 · Post by **fisherman5** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:52 pm

you lost me on fast seas

GreecePwns · Post by **GreecePwns** » Thu May 31, 2007 5:55 pm

This map is under copyright since it a map for Diplomacy, the board game.

Sparqs · Post by **Sparqs** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:14 pm

fisherman5 wrote:you lost me on fast seas

Fast Seas
Each sea space could attack its neighbors, as normal.
Any sea space that is adjacent to another sea space can attack any of that sea space's neighbors.

Example:
Sea-A next to: Land-A, Sea-B
Sea-B next to: Sea-A, Land-B
Land-A next to: Sea-A, Land-C

Sea-A can attack neighbors: Land-A and Sea-B.
Can also attack Sea-B neighbors: Land-B
Can not attack Land-A neighbors: NOT Land-C

On your map, Iberian Sea (#66) (left edge) could attack:
Neighbors: Mauret (#2), Sag (#65), Berber Sea (#67)
Neighbors of Berber Sea: Baleares (#68), Punic Sea (#72), Ligurian Sea (#69), Carthage (#10), Sardinia (#71)

Evil Pope · Post by **Evil Pope** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:14 pm

You could give it a shot.. Can't use this map of layout, exactly.. but something along these lines.. and it'll need something to make it stand out..
I don't personally like the inclusion of seas as territories most of the time, but thats just me.
Maybe you could avoid the traditional bonus system in which you receive bonuses based on holding specified areas but instead use other factors.

fisherman5 · Post by **fisherman5** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:41 pm

well i had some time today so i did a little work on basic outline i also added a few trade routes in the seas

P.S. don't tell me the harbors look like crap i already know they do

pepperonibread · Post by **pepperonibread** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:23 pm

snufkin wrote:What years.. hmm

It´s a fantasy map for some game?
Please use real history if you use real countries. (imho of course)

Definitely not a fantasy map... it looks like it has actual ancient regions (for example, correct me if I'm wrong, France was once known as Gaul).

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:36 pm

Not only does it say copyright on it, but it's also from a warfare type game as well. Someone said earlier it's a map from Diplomacy. You probably can't use this image at all.

I don't think what you have looks that great anyway, but I do realize you are going to put more work into it. We already have quite a few maps for this region, and I don't feel there's need for another one, but if you are going to do it start from scratch and make it all yourself.

To be honest, unless you get something that looks very good is unique, you're not going to get support on this. But, do yourself a favour and make it all your own, not an edit of someone else's material.

fisherman5 · Post by **fisherman5** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:28 pm

i'm open to suggestions of other areas still haven't really put much work into this one so wouldn't be a huge loss