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unriggable wrote:Exactly. If he was Him, he wouldn't be His son. So Jesus is not the son of God but rather a manifestation of God Himself? That directly contradicts the Bible.jay_a2j wrote:unriggable wrote:Well obviously in biological terms, you can't be your own father, therefore christianity is false. Prett easy.
Except God is not "biological". God is Spirit. God came to Earth in the form of "His Son" to do what no man could possibly do.... die for the world's sins.
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JESUS SAVES!!!PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
unriggable wrote:Exactly. If he was Him, he wouldn't be His son. So Jesus is not the son of God but rather a manifestation of God Himself? That directly contradicts the Bible.jay_a2j wrote:unriggable wrote:Well obviously in biological terms, you can't be your own father, therefore christianity is false. Prett easy.
Except God is not "biological". God is Spirit. God came to Earth in the form of "His Son" to do what no man could possibly do.... die for the world's sins.
So Jesus was God is what you're saying?jay_a2j wrote:unriggable wrote:Exactly. If he was Him, he wouldn't be His son. So Jesus is not the son of God but rather a manifestation of God Himself? That directly contradicts the Bible.jay_a2j wrote:unriggable wrote:Well obviously in biological terms, you can't be your own father, therefore christianity is false. Prett easy.
Except God is not "biological". God is Spirit. God came to Earth in the form of "His Son" to do what no man could possibly do.... die for the world's sins.
AAFitz wrote:There will always be cheaters, abusive players, terrible players, and worse. But we have every right to crush them.
End the Flame Wars.MeDeFe wrote:This is a forum on the internet, what do you expect?
Would the fact that you are composed of three separate parts (body, soul and spirit) contradict the fact that you are one person?vtmarik wrote:unriggable wrote:Exactly. If he was Him, he wouldn't be His son. So Jesus is not the son of God but rather a manifestation of God Himself? That directly contradicts the Bible.jay_a2j wrote:unriggable wrote:Well obviously in biological terms, you can't be your own father, therefore christianity is false. Prett easy.
Except God is not "biological". God is Spirit. God came to Earth in the form of "His Son" to do what no man could possibly do.... die for the world's sins.
The fact that Christians worship a triune god, yet proclaim their monotheism is what contradicts the bible.
The sperm was placed there by a man...and both lied about it.MR. Nate wrote:The person of the Trinity referred to as the Son came to earth in human flesh and was named Jesus by the woman who gave birth to Him. He had no physical father. The sperm was placed there supernaturally by the Holy Spirit.
are registered trademarks of Backglass Heavy Industries. Quite possibly. Unfortunately, no psychologist, philosopher, or scientist can define soul and spirit, or tell you where these things come from.b.k. barunt wrote: Would the fact that you are composed of three separate parts (body, soul and spirit) contradict the fact that you are one person?
Three identities of one god is a triune, henotheistic God much like Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahman in Hinduism; or Odhinn, Villi, and Ve in Asatru.MR. Nate wrote:Quick breakdown of the Trinity. God is one in nature, and consists of three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three are eternally existent, and none came before any of the others. A good analogy is a triangle. It is 1 triangle, but it has 3 corners.
So God would be the total of the three or the father?MR. Nate wrote:Quick breakdown of the Trinity. God is one in nature, and consists of three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three are eternally existent, and none came before any of the others. A good analogy is a triangle. It is 1 triangle, but it has 3 corners.
The person of the Trinity referred to as the Son came to earth in human flesh and was named Jesus by the woman who gave birth to Him. He had no physical father. The sperm was placed there supernaturally by the Holy Spirit.
God is singular, the trinity are the three manifestations of God, similar to the manifestations of Brahman in Hinduism. Except in Hinduism, Brahman has over one thousand manifestations.unriggable wrote:So God would be the total of the three or the father?MR. Nate wrote:Quick breakdown of the Trinity. God is one in nature, and consists of three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three are eternally existent, and none came before any of the others. A good analogy is a triangle. It is 1 triangle, but it has 3 corners.
The person of the Trinity referred to as the Son came to earth in human flesh and was named Jesus by the woman who gave birth to Him. He had no physical father. The sperm was placed there supernaturally by the Holy Spirit.
So which manifestations do we see in the OT? Sorry, this "he's three but at the same time he is one" thing has gotten me confused.vtmarik wrote:God is singular, the trinity are the three manifestations of God, similar to the manifestations of Brahman in Hinduism. Except in Hinduism, Brahman has over one thousand manifestations.
Christianity, like it or not, is a henotheistic religion.
What a sad life you must lead.Guiscard wrote:This is all by the by, though. I'm just bashing Christianity because it is my only pleasure in life.
Eh! Steven wrote:Following Christ isn't based upon a feeling, or a multiple phenomenon of tingling somersaults inside of ones stomach, but more so the lifetime commitment of surrender to the Father's will.
AAFitz wrote:There will always be cheaters, abusive players, terrible players, and worse. But we have every right to crush them.
End the Flame Wars.MeDeFe wrote:This is a forum on the internet, what do you expect?
IE: Blind faith in a chosen superstition, complete with myth and ritual.Eh! Steven wrote:Following <INSERT ANY RELIGION HERE> isn't based upon a feeling, or a multiple phenomenon of tingling somersaults inside of ones stomach, but more so the lifetime commitment of surrender to the <INSERT RELIGIOUS DEITY HERE> will.
are registered trademarks of Backglass Heavy Industries. Backglass wrote:Following Science isn't based upon a feeling, or a multiple phenomenon of tingling somersaults inside of ones stomach, but more so the lifetime commitment of surrender to observable phenomena.
AAFitz wrote:There will always be cheaters, abusive players, terrible players, and worse. But we have every right to crush them.
End the Flame Wars.MeDeFe wrote:This is a forum on the internet, what do you expect?
AAFitz wrote:There will always be cheaters, abusive players, terrible players, and worse. But we have every right to crush them.
End the Flame Wars.MeDeFe wrote:This is a forum on the internet, what do you expect?
Science = ObservableMR. Nate wrote:Backglass wrote:Following Science isn't based upon a feeling, or a multiple phenomenon of tingling somersaults inside of ones stomach, but more so the lifetime commitment of surrender to observable phenomena.
are registered trademarks of Backglass Heavy Industries. AAFitz wrote:There will always be cheaters, abusive players, terrible players, and worse. But we have every right to crush them.
End the Flame Wars.MeDeFe wrote:This is a forum on the internet, what do you expect?
hopefully you could at least understand why people might be a bit suspicious of the fact that just because Mary says she didnt have sex, that when a baby appears, people might be led to believe she is lying.MR. Nate wrote: People who don't believe Jesus was God assume Mary slept with a man to get pregnant, despite her testimony contrary.
Well, modern-day medicine knows that you don't have to have penetrative intercourse to get a girl pregnant.got tonkaed wrote:hopefully you could at least understand why people might be a bit suspicious of the fact that just because Mary says she didnt have sex, that when a baby appears, people might be led to believe she is lying.MR. Nate wrote: People who don't believe Jesus was God assume Mary slept with a man to get pregnant, despite her testimony contrary.
Science = what actually happens. No commitment. I don't go to a laboratory every sunday for what seems like no apparent reason.MR. Nate wrote:Backglass wrote:Following Science isn't based upon a feeling, or a multiple phenomenon of tingling somersaults inside of ones stomach, but more so the lifetime commitment of surrender to observable phenomena.
