[CC5] KoRT vs TNC (36-25) of 61 - KoRT Win FINAL 3/9

[davekettering]

show: Rules of Engagement

KoRT home Round 1 games

Dubs
Game 15119536 D1: Texas [flat, unl, sunny] KoRT won
Game 15119542 D2: 1982 [esc, chained, fog] KoRT won
Game 15119550 D3: Conquer Rome [no spoils, chained, fog] TNC won

Trips
Game 15119566 T1: Charleston [flat, chained, fog] TNC won
Game 15119572 T2: New Zealand [esc, chained, fog, trench, 30 rnd] KoRT won
Game 15119599 T3: WWll Europe [nuclear, unl, fog] KoRT won

Quads
Game 15119579 Q1: Rail Europe [no spoils, chained, fog] TNC won
Game 15119582 Q2: World 2.1 [nuclear, unl, fog] KoRT won
Game 15119592 Q3: Battle of Actium [nuclear, unlimited, fog] KoRT won
Game 15119595 Q4: Feudal Epic [esc, chained, fog] TNC won

TNC home round 1 games

Dubs
Game 15120740 D1: Classic Cities: Pot Mosbi [ns,ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15120739 D2: England [ns,ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15120737 D3: Northwest Passage [ns,ch, fog] KoRT won

Trips
Game 15120736 T1: D-Day: Omaha Beach! [ns,ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15120733 T2: Bamboo Jack [ns,ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15120732 T3: Das Schloss [ns,ch, fog] TNC won

Quads
Game 15120731 Q1: Pearl Harbor [ns,ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15120730 Q2: Salem's Switch [ns,ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15120729 Q3: Waterloo [ns,ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15120728 Q4: Northwest Passage [ns,ch, fog] KoRT won

KoRT Round 2 Home Games

Dubs
Game 15164566 D1: Austerlitz [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15164572 D2: Berlin 1961 [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15164573 D3: City Mogul [Nuc, Adj, fog, trench, 30 rds] KoRT won

Trips
Game 15164576 T1: WWll Gazala [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15164578 T2: Cairns Coral Coast [ns, ch, sunny] TNC won
Game 15164580 T3: Feudal War [esc, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15164583 T4: Antarctica [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won

Quads
Game 15164586 Q1: City Mogul [Nuc, Adj, fog, trench, 30 rds] KoRT won
Game 15164589 Q2: USA 2.1 [ns, adj, fog, trench, 30 rds] KoRT won
Game 15164591 Q3: Super Max Prison Riot [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won

TNC Round 2 Away Games

Dubs
Game 15200523 D1: All Your Base are Belong to us [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15200521 D2: Baseball [ns, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15200520 D3: Arms Race [ns, ch, fog] TNC won

Trips
Game 15200579 T1: Steamworks [ns, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15200539 T2: Clandemonium [ns, adj, fog] KoRT won
Game 15200538 T3: WWll Poland [ns, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15200535 T4: Classic Cities, Pot Mosbi [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won

Quads
Game 15200545 Q1: Route 66 [ns, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15200543 Q2: Middle Ages [ns, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15200541 Q3: Kings Court [ns, ch, fog] TNC won

KoRT Round 3 Home Games

Dubs
Game 15220541 D1: WWll Eastern Front [esc, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15213363 D2: Age of Merchants [esc, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15213364 D3: New Zealand [esc, unl, fog] KoRT won
Game 15213365 D4: Arms Race [ns, ch, fog] TNC won

Trips
Game 15213367 T1: Hive [nuc, unl, fog] KoRT won
Game 15213369 T2: First Nations America [nuc, unl, fog] KoRT won
Game 15213371 T3: Battle of Actium [nuc, unl, fog] KoRT won

Quads
Game 15213372 Q1: Hive [nuc, unl, fog] KoRT won
Game 15213374 Q2: First Nations America [nuc, unl, fog] KoRT won
Game 15213375 Q3: Conquerman [nuc, unl, fog] KoRT won

TNC Round 3 Away Games

Dubs
Game 15213864 D1: Feudal War [esc, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15212288 D2: Stalingrad [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15212287 D3: Waterloo [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15212286 D4: Unification Italy [ns, ch, fog] TNC won

Trips
Game 15212296 T1: Forbidden City [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15212295 T2: Rail USA [ns, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15212292 T3: Three Kingdoms of Korea [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won

Quads
Game 15212306 Q1: Rail Africa [ns, ch, fog] TNC won
Game 15212304 Q2: Napoleonic Europe [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won
Game 15212299 Q3: World 2.1 [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won

Tie Break Game
Game 15220709 : Orient Express 1883 [ns, ch, fog] KoRT won

[Extreme Ways]

Will be a good one.

[Keefie]

Need the first post completed and TNC to agree to terms before privs can be issued. Thanks

[MoB Deadly]

TNC Agrees

[Keefie]

Privs granted, have a great war guys.

[davekettering]

All,

Attached below are the round 1 home games from KoRT, good luck with the games.

Dubs
15119536 D1: Texas [flat, unl, sunny]
15119542 D2: 1982 [esc, chained, fog]
15119550 D3: Conquer Rome [no spoils, chained, fog]

Trips
15119566 T1: Charleston [flat, chained, fog]
15119572 T2: New Zealand [esc, chained, fog, trench, 30 rnd]
15119599 T3: WWll Europe [nuclear, unl, fog]

Quads
15119579 Q1: Rail Europe [no spoils, chained, fog]
15119582 Q2: World 2.1 [nuclear, unl, fog]
15119592 Q3: Battle of Actium [nuclear, unlimited, fog]
15119595 Q4: Feudal Epic [esc, chained, fog]

[Keefie]

TNC must create their batch 2 games IMMEDIATELY and also send their invites for Kort's away games. Also batch 3 MUST proceed as planned on the 4th of Jan.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[Epitaph1]

We are good to go now. All games set up and invites sent.

Thanks for your patience.

[josko.ri]

Game 15164586 ckyrias has 20 minutes left, important urn in city mogul.

[-1-1-3-]

Game 15164586 ckyrias has 20 minutes left, important urn in city mogul.

Wait a minute josko... isn't fairplay against the rules of war ? Oo

[josko.ri]

Game 15212288 ckyrias 30 minutes left.

@1-1-3: When I saw your comment, I thought content will be something related that current result (11-13) is similar to your name.

[BGtheBrain]

*****

[betiko]

holy snaps batman.... wtf with that score?

[josko.ri]

holy snaps batman.... wtf with that score?

TNC showed as much better clan than what their rank would imply.

They did not show it only here, if you look at their CL6 results, you will see that they are also doing well there.

Also, we had so many retirements since CC4. You were in clan who was in similar situation, so you know the best how hard is to manage massive retirements after achieving great results and making people satisfied with past achievements. You know that in case when your ex-clan was in similar situation (although your satisfaction was only winning Cup-CC3, not Cup-CC4 and League-CL5 at the same time like in KORT's case) it led to withdrawing from CL5, so I am proud that my clan under similar circumstances did not withdrew from any competition, but was regularly playing although it was obvious that our results will decrease due to massive retirements. But we play this game for fun, which includes fun both when results are shiny and when results are mediocre, so we are allowing that other clans have shot on us not only when we are shining but also when we are in harder situation.

[betiko]

holy snaps batman.... wtf with that score?

TNC showed as much better clan than what their rank would imply.

They did not show it only here, if you look at their CL6 results, you will see that they are also doing well there.

Also, we had so many retirements since CC4. You were in clan who was in similar situation, so you know the best how hard is to manage massive retirements after achieving great results and making people satisfied with past achievements. You know that in case when your ex-clan was in similar situation (although your satisfaction was only winning Cup-CC3, not Cup-CC4 and League-CL5 at the same time like in KORT's case) it led to withdrawing from CL5, so I am proud that my clan under similar circumstances did not withdrew from any competition, but was regularly playing although it was obvious that our results will decrease due to massive retirements. But we play this game for fun, which includes fun both when results are shiny and when results are mediocre, so we are allowing that other clans have shot on us not only when we are shining but also when we are in harder situation.

I only stayed like 8 month in TOFU is that is what you are refering as my ex clan, the timing of what you are describing is not something I witnessed playing for TOFU (although they had lots of big names that retired after the CC3). I just played 2 rounds of CC4 with them.
In fact... I was on the opposite side during the CC3.
We had massive retirements late 2012 within the pack (where is tayed over 2 years), so I know what you mean. We only lost by a close score against tofu in the CC3, then didn't play any war for like 6 month, then faced TNC in a casual war... and TNC managed to beat pack! So I know these guys can do great stuff. The only 2 war defeats I've had in my clan career so far, and they were back to back.

may I ask who retired?

But yes, I was very surprised by your CL6 results, then I just saw this score update

[josko.ri]

holy snaps batman.... wtf with that score?

TNC showed as much better clan than what their rank would imply.

They did not show it only here, if you look at their CL6 results, you will see that they are also doing well there.

Also, we had so many retirements since CC4. You were in clan who was in similar situation, so you know the best how hard is to manage massive retirements after achieving great results and making people satisfied with past achievements. You know that in case when your ex-clan was in similar situation (although your satisfaction was only winning Cup-CC3, not Cup-CC4 and League-CL5 at the same time like in KORT's case) it led to withdrawing from CL5, so I am proud that my clan under similar circumstances did not withdrew from any competition, but was regularly playing although it was obvious that our results will decrease due to massive retirements. But we play this game for fun, which includes fun both when results are shiny and when results are mediocre, so we are allowing that other clans have shot on us not only when we are shining but also when we are in harder situation.

I only stayed like 8 month in TOFU is that is what you are refering as my ex clan, the timing of what you are describing is not something I witnessed playing for TOFU (although they had lots of big names that retired after the CC3). I just played 2 rounds of CC4 with them.
In fact... I was on the opposite side during the CC3.
We had massive retirements late 2012 within the pack (where is tayed over 2 years), so I know what you mean. We only lost by a close score against tofu in the CC3, then didn't play any war for like 6 month, then faced TNC in a casual war... and TNC managed to beat pack! So I know these guys can do great stuff. The only 2 war defeats I've had in my clan career so far, and they were back to back.

may I ask who retired?

But yes, I was very surprised by your CL6 results, then I just saw this score update

I just checked, and yes you joined 2 months ater their withdrawing so you were not direct witness of the decision.
However, you were witness of PACK not playing in both Clan League and CCup during their hard commitment days, so you know the best how is it about to deal with massive retirements. PACK has never come back to be top clan after massive retirements while TOFU withdrew from CL5 after their massive retirements, so I am proud that KORT continue to normally participate in both competitions even though our results are now lower.

We are more like Roger Federer, giving shot on ourselves to others even when our form is on downside and when our commitment is hard to manage, rather than like Pete Sampras, who withdrew from further competitions after winning US Open, rather than giving to others opportunity to play versus him even when his form will go downside.

There are many retired ones, it is not hard to find it if you are really interested by just map ranking our recent games.

TNC seems to be kryptonite for top clans

[betiko]

Well pack did make kind of a come back after my departure and their merger with afos's best players. I think they went back up to number 3 but I m not sure. Their defeat against us (lhdd) in the cc5 seems to have brought a new wave of massive retirements.. So basically pack is now 90% ex afos aparently.
Anyway this is far from lost, i remember last year, it looked like kort would lose vs OSA in the cc4 and you pulled a great 3rd set to win. (Or was that 2 years ago?)

So who is the current best clan? Looks like ACE to me.

[josko.ri]

Well pack did make kind of a come back after my departure and their merger with afos's best players. I think they went back up to number 3 but I m not sure. Their defeat against us (lhdd) in the cc5 seems to have brought a new wave of massive retirements.. So basically pack is now 90% ex afos aparently.
Anyway this is far from lost, i remember last year, it looked like kort would lose vs OSA in the cc4 and you pulled a great 3rd set to win. (Or was that 2 years ago?)

So who is the current best clan? Looks like ACE to me.

With my statement that PACK have never actually come back after initial retirements was backed up by the fact that they did not have any noticeable wins since then, even with merger with AFOS. Since then, there was the loss vs TNC, and what else? Loss vs LHDD, so the merged with AFOS players did not really make the to come back to top. Their number 3 rankings was due to old famous results and the fact that they were inactive in wars, so old famous results still held them as seemingly number 3.
According to F400 and F41, KORT is #1 clan
Isn't it unfair to call others #1 while we are still undefeated holders of both CL5 and CC4 thrones, with still chances in both competitions to defend the title? And the clan you are calling #1 has zero major titles so far.

[betiko]

Well pack did make kind of a come back after my departure and their merger with afos's best players. I think they went back up to number 3 but I m not sure. Their defeat against us (lhdd) in the cc5 seems to have brought a new wave of massive retirements.. So basically pack is now 90% ex afos aparently.
Anyway this is far from lost, i remember last year, it looked like kort would lose vs OSA in the cc4 and you pulled a great 3rd set to win. (Or was that 2 years ago?)

So who is the current best clan? Looks like ACE to me.

With my statement that PACK have never actually come back after initial retirements was backed up by the fact that they did not have any noticeable wins since then, even with merger with AFOS. Since then, there was the loss vs TNC, and what else? Loss vs LHDD, so the merged with AFOS players did not really make the to come back to top. Their number 3 rankings was due to old famous results and the fact that they were inactive in wars, so old famous results still held them as seemingly number 3.
According to F400 and F41, KORT is #1 clan
Isn't it unfair to call others #1 while we are still undefeated holders of both CL5 and CC4 thrones, with still chances in both competitions to defend the title? And the clan you are calling #1 has zero major titles so far.

After losing vs TNC, pack Won against OSA, LHDD, G1, LOW, then in cc5 they beat AQOH on round 1, then lost against LHDD round 2. So no, after losing vs TNC And merging with AFOS they did have a very good year and a half with only victories, as you know victories that are over 2 years old are not counted anymore in the ranking, so very old battles are irrelevant.

While you still have a chance in this CC5 format, i guarantee that in the CL6 with kort has no chance to finish second. You are just fighting for third place at best. You have already lost 5/12 matches in the first 6 rounds while ace and tofu have lost none. So yeah, you re more like roger federer with an injury (departures) and it s a bit foolish in this conditions not to admit that you are you guys have chances to win the league again.

[JPlo64]

So who is the current best clan? Looks like ACE to me.

Isn't it unfair to call others #1 while we are still undefeated holders of both CL5 and CC4 thrones, with still chances in both competitions to defend the title? And the clan you are calling #1 has zero major titles so far.

Seems he was referring to who seems to be in the best form at this particular moment in time, not who has been the best clan over the past year or 2(i.e. the rankings).

[betiko]

So who is the current best clan? Looks like ACE to me.

Isn't it unfair to call others #1 while we are still undefeated holders of both CL5 and CC4 thrones, with still chances in both competitions to defend the title? And the clan you are calling #1 has zero major titles so far.

Seems he was referring to who seems to be in the best form at this particular moment in time, not who has been the best clan over the past year or 2(i.e. the rankings).

exactly. Not talking about titles, ranking and all that stuff... cause in that area we agree that kort is the best clan in cc's history. I was asking who is the toughest clan in the past few month, and my take is that ACE probably is, TOFU being a close second.

[Keefie]

So who is the current best clan? Looks like ACE to me.

Isn't it unfair to call others #1 while we are still undefeated holders of both CL5 and CC4 thrones, with still chances in both competitions to defend the title? And the clan you are calling #1 has zero major titles so far.

Seems he was referring to who seems to be in the best form at this particular moment in time, not who has been the best clan over the past year or 2(i.e. the rankings).

exactly. Not talking about titles, ranking and all that stuff... cause in that area we agree that kort is the best clan in cc's history. I was asking who is the toughest clan in the past few month, and my take is that ACE probably is, TOFU being a close second.

You're being modest mate.

[josko.ri]

So who is the current best clan? Looks like ACE to me.

Isn't it unfair to call others #1 while we are still undefeated holders of both CL5 and CC4 thrones, with still chances in both competitions to defend the title? And the clan you are calling #1 has zero major titles so far.

Seems he was referring to who seems to be in the best form at this particular moment in time, not who has been the best clan over the past year or 2(i.e. the rankings).

exactly. Not talking about titles, ranking and all that stuff... cause in that area we agree that kort is the best clan in cc's history. I was asking who is the toughest clan in the past few month, and my take is that ACE probably is, TOFU being a close second.

Well, KORT has always played the best when it is the hardest and have always raised our form as competitions were coming closer to the end. Look at CC4 for example, the closest opponent to beat us was OSA whom we beat 34-27, with lower margin than TSM or TOFU, who were both much higher ranked than OSA. If you look further in the past and our starts in past CCups, KORT started it with 29-12 vs AKA (CC4), 27-14 vs LOTZ (CC3), 24-17 vs G1 (CC2), 32-16 vs G1 (CC1) which are all results far worse than starts in CCups by other top clans who were beating their first opponents by much higher margins. The reason is also logical, as KORT has almost never had off-season for recruitment and for reorganizing roles in our clan, we always needed to do that simultaneously with competitions, so while we were doing that (usually at the beginning of new seasons) then of course our results were lower for a while. But that doesn't mean that we gave up our current hard deserved titles, and that we will not defend them. We are giving shot at us to others even when our form is not at its peak