Once Upon A Killer Mafia (14/17) A Writers Block:Endgame

[Zivel]

with 15 left ive got a current town circle of 9-6 so likes its pretty much auto for me, Ill bring back someone who im wrong on and that will gain us another lynch i think so its win win

Wheres streaker in that circle?

[Zivel]

On the fishing for aage claim. I am more concerned about storrs push for a full claim of powers. Yeah aage did right claiming he what he did but he does need to expand any more. Asking for it is scummy.

[UltrasPlot]

Storr, what makes you think aage is clean and hotshot is scum? furthermore aage what makes you think Storr is clean?

btw Storr, I have not yet a target in mind for who I am shooting. I will certainly look over everyone's opinion but to avoid being mafia roleblocked if I declare one of their members I shall not declare beforehand who I shoot.

[StorrZerg]

Storr, what makes you think aage is clean and hotshot is scum? furthermore aage what makes you think Storr is clean?

btw Storr, I have not yet a target in mind for who I am shooting. I will certainly look over everyone's opinion but to avoid being mafia roleblocked if I declare one of their members I shall not declare beforehand who I shoot.

simply put on aage
i liked how he pushed hotshot (so did others, so this isn't just a biased viewpoint from myself) I liked how he dealt with the claims, and clearly thinking about what was going on, and how he attempted to set a trap for me. I thought that was very town. I also like how he backed off hotshot.


I'm no longer pushing for hotshot to be lynched/shot this cycle.
this has to do with the claim, and how much is backing up his claim.

[UltrasPlot]

So who would you propose we lynch? For your vote is still on him.

[StorrZerg]

So who would you propose we lynch? For your vote is still on him.

its not.
prefer strike/pcm

tfo/ws are also fine

A lot has happened right now. Much of what i have thought has been flipped tossed and turned.

Not so much on pcm/strike , but tfo /ws I don't have strong readings on, and i'm open to hear about streaker.

If i remove streaker's claim, i don't like him much.

I'd like to see where animaniacks is at.

[UltrasPlot]

So why would you want to lynch two people who almost everyone else is town reading?

and why are the inactives clean?

but thank you for bringing up anamaniacks, he's disappeared...

[StorrZerg]

Who are you referring to...

I town read crasp earlier. Sure he has been inactive if people wanna pressure him idc.

Dd5 likely with tambo.. Likely town since I am town reading mtamburini

[UltrasPlot]

I am personally town reading Strike and pancake. I think you're just OMGUS'ing anyone who dissents.

[mtamburini]

Can we just sheep my list of people to shoot / lynch its prob like 75% right

Heh, this is a joke right. You are at least not abusing people this game but if you want to be taken seriously you need to put in a little more effort than that list.

Jealous?

[mtamburini]

with 15 left ive got a current town circle of 9-6 so likes its pretty much auto for me, Ill bring back someone who im wrong on and that will gain us another lynch i think so its win win

Wheres streaker in that circle?

4.Streaker WOULDNT CARE IF HE DIED

Did you even read my list? OMG HES SKIMMING FUCKING LYNCH HIM NOW>

VOTE ZIVEL

[Zivel]

with 15 left ive got a current town circle of 9-6 so likes its pretty much auto for me, Ill bring back someone who im wrong on and that will gain us another lynch i think so its win win

Wheres streaker in that circle?

4.Streaker WOULDNT CARE IF HE DIED

Did you even read my list? OMG HES SKIMMING FUCKING LYNCH HIM NOW>

VOTE ZIVEL

Ok I will put it more direct then. Elaborate please.

[mtamburini]

yo streaker i see your online, you roleblocked someone, who was it? Massclaim could break this game WIDE OPEN

[Streaker]

yo streaker i see your online, you roleblocked someone, who was it? Massclaim could break this game WIDE OPEN

Lol, 5 pages overnight, catching up. Give me a minute plz.
Also, stop skimming and start reading if you want to know who I blocked.

[Zivel]

yo streaker i see your online, you roleblocked someone, who was it? Massclaim could break this game WIDE OPEN

Why do you always go the mass claim route? Its only day two. There is three lovers in the game. We have more claims than we know what to do with at the moment and keeping the last power roles hidden is easily the best path to go down here.

[mtamburini]

yo streaker i see your online, you roleblocked someone, who was it? Massclaim could break this game WIDE OPEN

Why do you always go the mass claim route? Its only day two. There is three lovers in the game. We have more claims than we know what to do with at the moment and keeping the last power roles hidden is easily the best path to go down here.

Everyone visited my ass the game is broken now we can easily win today

[mtamburini]

yo streaker i see your online, you roleblocked someone, who was it? Massclaim could break this game WIDE OPEN

Lol, 5 pages overnight, catching up. Give me a minute plz.
Also, stop skimming and start reading if you want to know who I blocked.

Or you can just tell me now here and save me the trouble, was it DD i read something like that somewhere maybe from storr

[Streaker]

I can fully understand people want to investigate me, I have at least 2 plays that I could be lynched for.
Though if you look at the big picture it's nothing compared to, let's say, Storrzerg or Aage or even dd.

I counterclaimed, albeit a bit too enthousiasticly, thinking at that time I caught HotShot in a lie. However, I also stated at that time I had a town read on him (apart from the CC). The manner of how I claimed is definitely town, anyone should see that. I didn't follow up my claim as I should have, but this is just due to the fact that I had doubts right after my CC. I had some pressure on me because I haven't been posting much. Still gonna be strange to have 2 blocker roles in town like that.

If only rishaed made that post before Storr's... Would have made all the difference in the world. Still feel like Storr and Aage are working together a little too much. Also very suspicious still how Storr is continuously adapting his claim to how the situation unfolds. No claim from him yet.

Aage: keeping my vote on him. Covering up for Storr and reasons stated before.

Zivel: I know i'm due for a loooooot of attention, but can you at least state some reasons as to WHY i'm the best lynch candidate? Because with all that has happened today that doesnt make sense.

DD: disappeaered completely, right until someone said his name out loud. He jumped right onto that post with a simple: Don't worry, I'm here.

Has anyone noticed how dd disappears every time we stop pressuring him?

imo scum lead

I'm here, just too busy to post anything worthwhile. I've been keeping up so that once I'm less busy I don't have too much to go back and read. If you have anything specific to ask me I can try and answer it with more in depth thoughts, later tonight.

Basics: I think HotShot is town. Still haven't decided on Storr, neutral. Streaker, whatsausage, and crasp are suspicious IMO. Still haven't decided on aage, leaning scum. Ultra and AoG, I don't like your play, but I'd have to say Ultra = town and AoG = leaning scum. Strike's play isn't as good as D1, but I'm still reading town on him. I think our best bet is to lynch Streaker at this point. Aage, whatsausage, crasp could also be good lynches for laying low, but still being somewhat active. Other relatively inactives could be good targets as well, but not for lynch, maybe your 2 shots just to get them out.

You are saying absolutely nothing here. A little promise to post something better later.

His follow up post was a little more extensive then that:

Jebus.... I go away for a couple of hours and shit hits the fan. So AoG comea out looking alright, aage and Hotshot in the middle and Storr... well storr just got two full claims and is pushing for a third. Mafia watcher maybe. I don't buy that just cause he is faster than the mod to the forum that makes him conf town.... someone explain.

I can't see strike being scum. He is one of my top town reads and his rebuttals of storrs points only confirms this more.

I think PCM has looked a bit dodgy this day and would be worth a look. I could happily lynch dd as the support from mtam just confirms they are lovers not town. My strongest scum is Streaker. Counter claims hotshot to push the lynch through but doesn't mean shit really and the stuff at the end of day 1 just seems to scummy.

Cant make a full post as I am the phone but lets lynch dd or streaker.

He revealed what he knew as soon as he found out is what makes him look town IMO. He also didn't push for aage IIRC, only HotShot.
I think strike could be scum, but if he is he's damn good at it. There are definitely better leads to look into though.
PCM has been a bit dodgy, whatsausage and crasp have also. I think lynching one of them would be good. Personally the latter two are scummier to me.
"the support from mtam just confirms they are lovers not town" -- Where the hell do you come up with this shit? You seemed town to me, but this just makes me think there is a scum lover pair because you still think there is. The only reason I could see that you think that is if you are the scum lover pair, but I have no other facts besides that bit of tinfoil so I'm going to go ahead and just say that you're not really thinking it through
Also, you're the 3rd person to say they think streaker is scummy (myself included). So I'm going to go ahead and vote Streaker for now

Why you think strike scum? You say nothing here.
Again, pointing fingers at PCM, Ws, and Crasp. Anyone of these lynches will do for you? Good, maybe some reasoning why?
THIS is the reason you think there is a scum lover pair? Not because 3 town lover pairs are insane? Also, no reasoning as to why you think Mtam is town, or scum. Tinfoil hat as reasoning? Lol.
And then the vote on me. Going about your business eh? You vote me because other people think I'm scummy. Stronk case. Like I said, I'm definitely due for some attention but this is not what I was thinking. Stronk case.

After dissecting this post, which is full of nothing and less, right after someone called him out for submerging, I'd love to hear from Mtamb why he can never be scum... I'd love to lynch DD right now, but that's just OMGUS talking I guess.

let's continue:

hm, ok, I'll come out.

I also visited mtam last night. So either someone is lying or someone got blocked. I'm not going to give info about my role but I will if you guys want.

I think you should give info. We already have at least partial claims from HotShot, Aage, and Storr. So one out of you 4 is most likely lying (unless there's some weird game mechanic with someone's role)

Following up his stronk case building with claim fishing post? Cool. I just believe we have pleeeenty of information, including claims, for today. And tomorrow. And the day after. A mass claim won't do us good (or me at least, i'm not very familiar with this flavour).

Hmm, just checking my post and I switched the 2 posts from dd around: he followed up his 'i'm here' post with the fishing attempt, and then made that utterly empty post. It doesn't change anything.

[Streaker]

Also, no. I'm not gonna indulge on your request just because you can't be bothered to look something up.

[Zivel]

yo streaker i see your online, you roleblocked someone, who was it? Massclaim could break this game WIDE OPEN

Why do you always go the mass claim route? Its only day two. There is three lovers in the game. We have more claims than we know what to do with at the moment and keeping the last power roles hidden is easily the best path to go down here.

Everyone visited my ass the game is broken now we can easily win today

4 people visited you.... the game is far from broken and just because you are to lazy or dont understand the game you want to take the easy way out and get a massclaim so you know what is actually going on, as you obviously have no idea at the moment, no matter that this will hurt town. You just want to stop looking stupid.

Give us a read on Streaker.... he is on your list.. shit give us any read on anyone that is more than a one liner. You dont want to, because you cant make a case that would hold up under scrutiny. At the moment you are worthless, your only reason in the game is to sacrifice yourself. Pity you dont see that once you die, we have a a townie death that we could use for reads. You could make some decent cases, and then once you die we could actually use what you have to say.

If you dont die then you are probably scum or been roleblocked. Your play is the essence of scummarining. You are arrogant and if I was Streaker I would not be giving you any help. My guess is that he will help you cause he wants to get out from under the spotlight and will buddy up to anyone.

I am tossing up whether it is worth the risk of you bullshitting your claim and using it as a reason to not participate to get out of this game and coast through, risk that you wont use you power tonight, or dont have it and letting you get further into this game. If we lose a townie that is participating in this game and you are still alive then we are worse off than just lynching you. You are the epitome of a policy lynch at the moment.

FP by streaker... good on ya mate. Got some townie points for not buying into Mtams BS

[Zivel]

On the fishing for aage claim. I am more concerned about storrs push for a full claim of powers. Yeah aage did right claiming he what he did but he does need to expand any more. Asking for it is scummy.

OK reading back I can be accused of skimming here, I fucked up.

I read dd5's post and Storrs about wanting more info about AoG's claim. This was before the mod confirmed that there was a mix up. I still dont like that there was a push for AoG's powers but I can accept it a little more because of the mix up. Nothing to do with aage.

[Zivel]

Nice touch that Storr updates right before Rish confirms, Storr = confirmed town gg.

Explain this to me, this confirms his role but why his alignment?

[Streaker]

Nice touch that Storr updates right before Rish confirms, Storr = confirmed town gg.

Explain this to me, this confirms his role but why his alignment?

It doesnt explain anything. It just denies us using that timing (if it were the other way around) to enhance the case on Storr.

[Streaker]

@Zivel: that's kinda the point I'm trying to make. There are a couple good reasons to look into me, granted. Thing is that NOBODY is bothering to actually put a case together.

I'm even looking forward to the first person that actually builds a case on me, more then OMG YOU ARE SCUM, OTHER PEOPLE SAY THIS ALSO SO IT MUST BE TRUE VOTE NOW.
Not gonna defend myself if this is all being thrown at me.

[Zivel]

@Zivel: that's kinda the point I'm trying to make. There are a couple good reasons to look into me, granted. Thing is that NOBODY is bothering to actually put a case together.

I'm even looking forward to the first person that actually builds a case on me, more then OMG YOU ARE SCUM, OTHER PEOPLE SAY THIS ALSO SO IT MUST BE TRUE VOTE NOW.
Not gonna defend myself if this is all being thrown at me.

You tunneled ultra in the first day whose lover which is confirmed same alignment flipped town. You went so hard as to risk losing two townies but asking virus not to save him.

Early in day 2 you then say we should be looking at the people who pushed virus' lynch. Hypocrisy at its finest. It looks like an easy way for scum to get some attention onto some townies.

Then you counter claim Hotshot with a role that is not the same thinking that there cant be two roles similar. This is a game of 17, if you dont think there are going to be more than one role that can block and action you are a fool. This looks like scum trying to push a lynch through on a townie. Not disagreeing that you are a roleblocker, just that you used your role as tool to try and confirm that Hotshot is scum.

Now I am not 100% that you are scum but I am not comfortable with any of the other lynchs offered up today and you would be my next choice. I could probably lynch PCM or dd5 today as well.

Vote Streaker