Noted Secret Diplomacy & others betiko/smegal69 [ka]

[smegal69]

you go on about over my over inflated list of games were we cheated, and there was none.

Then you say i cheated in close to 100 freestyle games.

WOW how full of shit are you, out of near 100 games ( I did search and i have only ever played 94 trips and quad freestyle games) and over a third of them were well before or after the C&A report and have nothing to do with that case,

you have even included Tournament Games and ones dating back to 2008.

And most of others, we did nothing wrong but join a game and play it like a skilled freestyle team with great tactics..... and how many times did we have to listen to you begging to get in on them???. how many times???
So if we were so bad why did you want in on them so bad?

And to all people saying that we cheated over 3 years ago so it not really matter, you may want to look when the last one was done, yep only 2 years ago, please get your facts correct if you have anything to post on this topic

[betiko]

you go on about over my over inflated list of games were we cheated, and there was none.

Then you say i cheated in close to 100 freestyle games.

WOW how full of shit are you, out of near 100 games ( I did search and i have only ever played 94 trips and quad freestyle games) and over a third of them were well before or after the C&A report and have nothing to do with that case,

you have even included Tournament Games and ones dating back to 2008.

And most of others, we did nothing wrong but join a game and play it like a skilled freestyle team with great tactics..... and how many times did we have to listen to you begging to get in on them???. how many times???
So if we were so bad why did you want in on them so bad?

And to all people saying that we cheated over 3 years ago so it not really matter, you may want to look when the last one was done, yep only 2 years ago, please get your facts correct if you have anything to post on this topic

no, the 2-3 games you listed after that week of cheating back in november 2011 are legit games are you are full of shit. I have already explained it and anyone looking at those games would see you are a lying ass.
Regarding the team freestyle unlimited: I just searched for smegal69 in team freestyle unlimited didn't look in details and I don't give a shit. You were the one who spent all your time with simmons4 playing them. I said it before. They require a great strategy and coordination and are very fun to play; so yes I did ask to try them with you guys and it was actually fun. You guys were playing that every night when we used to hang out on skype between clan members, so yeah, of course I wanted to try. I didn't play it at industrial levels as you guys; and I said we should stop doing that because they left no chance to the opposition. That's when you started hating me and started persecuting me with simmons.
Anyway I'm bored. had this conversation about 1 million times with you and you're still not over it. What's the point of discussing this again? we will never agree.

[BoganGod]

I'm not sure what's funnier... The fact that Betiko is one of the most arrogant, witless pricks on here, and then we hear ab this little scheme.... Or.. That there are people that would cheat for "medals" on a gaming website... Lmao! Personally I couldn't care less what happens to either of them, i do remember Betiko calling me out about my lack of variety in the medals I have.. Well... I guess no comment on that part is necessary... Hahaha... Its like cheating in a poker game for chips that can't be cashed out for actual money.. Lol... Fkn nerd.

fixed!

Point of order betsy, more works just as well as most.

[Gweeedo]

Obviously betiko feels no shame, why does he not hold his head down in shame?
He continues to speak in forums...why?
He can not be trusted.
Maybe you could reward betiko, activate a cheat option...game option that allows cheating.

Put him on everybody's foe list.
If you like listening to his bullshit, you will have to unfoe him manually.

[rhp 1]

I'm not sure what's funnier... The fact that Betiko is one of the most arrogant, witless pricks on here, and then we hear ab this little scheme.... Or.. That there are people that would cheat for "medals" on a gaming website... Lmao! Personally I couldn't care less what happens to either of them, i do remember Betiko calling me out about my lack of variety in the medals I have.. Well... I guess no comment on that part is necessary... Hahaha... Its like cheating in a poker game for chips that can't be cashed out for actual money.. Lol... Fkn nerd.

fixed!

Point of order betsy, more works just as well as most.

Good lookin out Bogan. I noticed. I just couldn't muster the fortitude to respond. Who am I to rain on his parade when he thinks he's being witty?

[rhp 1]

and as far as Betiko's commentary on me... come up with some new lines dude, your rhetoric is stale... you keep using the same insults like they were funny the first time.

[Dukasaur]

Benji's Widow is back?! what? huh? what is going on?!! ok... seriously, you turn yourself and your CC buddy in 3 years after the fact for one week of cheating? give me a break... people talking point reset are just being ridiculous... medal reset, even more convoluted... give them a warning... period... betiko is an active member of the community and has admitted his wrongs from 3 years ago... let it go... if they engage in the behaviour again, give them an appropriate punishment... but this, this is the equivalent of an ex-lover from years ago calling up your current girlfriend and dishing dirt on you... too late, mate... this is ridiculous...-Jésus noir™

100%. I doubt there will be any punishment given. Maybe an official warning, though with the passing of time I wouldn't be shocked if all they do is Note this. When the infraction occurred does make a difference.

Bollocks.

I agree very much. Not just because of the time frame, but because they stopped the abuse of their own volition. That, to me, is a very telling point. If someone is caught and forced to stop, that is one thing. But if someone is not caught, and decides on their own to stop, that is something completely different, and deserves some consideration.

[Gweeedo]

Benji's Widow is back?! what? huh? what is going on?!! ok... seriously, you turn yourself and your CC buddy in 3 years after the fact for one week of cheating? give me a break... people talking point reset are just being ridiculous... medal reset, even more convoluted... give them a warning... period... betiko is an active member of the community and has admitted his wrongs from 3 years ago... let it go... if they engage in the behaviour again, give them an appropriate punishment... but this, this is the equivalent of an ex-lover from years ago calling up your current girlfriend and dishing dirt on you... too late, mate... this is ridiculous...-Jésus noir™

100%. I doubt there will be any punishment given. Maybe an official warning, though with the passing of time I wouldn't be shocked if all they do is Note this. When the infraction occurred does make a difference.

Bollocks.

I agree very much. Not just because of the time frame, but because they stopped the abuse of their own volition. That, to me, is a very telling point. If someone is caught and forced to stop, that is one thing. But if someone is not caught, and decides on their own to stop, that is something completely different, and deserves some consideration.

, but because they stopped the abuse of their own volition.

Why not hold a calibration? It could be the November challenge...hook it up Yoshi.
Cheaters that Have come clean of their own Volition...Rahhight, they are strait shooters.

Why not allow CC players decide, lets vote.
Or at the very least allow betico and his boyfriend to dole out their own punishment.

I say, put a Yellow stripe, spelling the word cheater, across their profile wall.
This way players will know who they are up against (for those of us who don't like playing with Cheaters).
I think betiko will agree, he will play with a cheater, just not against one.

betiko is always the first guy to cry Cheat.
I think a formal apology is in order.

[fairman]

"Lets vote to decide"??

Yes it is well known that it's how justice work

[IcePack]

I vote for more mud wrestling in the pig sty...

[owenshooter]

I vote for more mud wrestling in the pig sty...

i vote for you getting back to work and resolving some of these tech issues we are having!!!-Jésus noir™

[rhp 1]

Benji's Widow is back?! what? huh? what is going on?!! ok... seriously, you turn yourself and your CC buddy in 3 years after the fact for one week of cheating? give me a break... people talking point reset are just being ridiculous... medal reset, even more convoluted... give them a warning... period... betiko is an active member of the community and has admitted his wrongs from 3 years ago... let it go... if they engage in the behaviour again, give them an appropriate punishment... but this, this is the equivalent of an ex-lover from years ago calling up your current girlfriend and dishing dirt on you... too late, mate... this is ridiculous...-Jésus noir™

100%. I doubt there will be any punishment given. Maybe an official warning, though with the passing of time I wouldn't be shocked if all they do is Note this. When the infraction occurred does make a difference.

Bollocks.

I agree very much. Not just because of the time frame, but because they stopped the abuse of their own volition. That, to me, is a very telling point. If someone is caught and forced to stop, that is one thing. But if someone is not caught, and decides on their own to stop, that is something completely different, and deserves some consideration.

+1

[willedtowin1]

If the infraction happened more than one isolated time
it should be looked at as multiple infractions (no matter what the time frame). I am an old man and through many years of experience Ive found that......
Once a cheat..... always a cheat (they just get better at hiding it). I believe there is more to this story than whats really been said. I am also not going to make judgement on these 2 in particular. This is just my own opinion.

[KoolBak]

Much like a reformed alcoholic or an ex-smoker, one is exonerated by displaying the virtues (eventually) of a non-abuser.

I vote ban-hammer

Bye bye Betikoo....we shall miss you.

[KoolBak]

....not....

[Major.Bossman]

Well in certain areas of the world a trial may be decided by voting as in the case of a trial by one's peers. In other cases it may be decided by a magistrate or judge. As for the punishment, Conquer Club has guidelines for various offenses depending on the player's previous history and the degree of the offense. Both parties in this case have admitted to cheating in this case of 22 games over a period of about a week. Now both of the parties in this case may have achieved a reputation following the period of cheating but the offense still stands and that is what is to be decided. On a side note it is rather impressive that this topic has gotten so long.

[Gweeedo]

Yah, it was harmless enough.
Most of the games only involved newbs and low ranking players that no longer play this game anymore.
They were not too deceitful in game chat either.
No real harm done, there are worse things than a cheat on a gaming site.
CC should stick to punishing 'questionable cheats;' those cheaters that make real progress (conquer) in the game.
betiko is a fake, CC should not punish one of their own...he is untouchable.

Congratulations betiko; you play a great game...for a cheater.

@betiko, The ones who always cry cheater, cheater the loudest (that's you) are always the ones who cheat.
Your crying for the past three years, gives me reason to believe you still cheat.
Your games are irrelevant...you are irrelevant!

[demonfork]

You two cheating fucks disgust me.

This is some pretty low shit. Even worse than what Blitz did.


You both should leave CC in shame as Blitz did. f*ck off the both of yous!

[ZornSlayer]

How about we all just sit quiet and let the mods decide how they want to rule on this? Heck, they are probably swamped reading through all the 3 pages of these relevant posts to get all the facts in.... somebody, lock, please....

[Shannon Apple]

LOL!

This thread is awesome!

[Assassin07]

This is crazy I never seen a C&A like this...

[Serbia]

How about we all just sit quiet and let the mods decide how they want to rule on this? Heck, they are probably swamped reading through all the 3 pages of these relevant posts to get all the facts in.... somebody, lock, please....

Thanks for contributing to the mindless chatter the mods have to sort through! Well done, Zorn, well done!

Bollocks.

[owenshooter]

How about we all just sit quiet and let the mods decide how they want to rule on this? Heck, they are probably swamped reading through all the 3 pages of these relevant posts to get all the facts in.... somebody, lock, please....

oh look, someone trying to become a mod...

This is crazy I never seen a C&A like this...

then you obviously have missed a lot of epic threads that were in C&A... C&A gets like this when the players are prominent members of the community... you know, like when a C&A mod used his powers to climb the leader board... or when a mod was banning people for personal reasons... or when jbrettlip and i were accused of being a multi... or during the the great cleanse... this place can become very interesting when the people accused or accusing are vocal members of the community... you should check in more often...

You two cheating fucks disgust me.

This is some pretty low shit. Even worse than what Blitz did.
You both should leave CC in shame as Blitz did. f*ck off the both of yous!

and sorry, this is nowhere near what blitz did (yes, i did detect the sarcasm)... they cheated for a week, blitz cheated for an entire career and used a multi in an effort to get back that top spot he so craved to validate his existence on the planet... love that guy, he was something else...

time for some coffee!@!!-Jésus noir™

[ZornSlayer]

stop talking