Suspected Multi's Otna & rlcfast1 [BG] OP Busted

by **rjwall41** on Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:26 pm

Accused:
Otnal
rlcfast1

The accused are suspected of:
Being Multis or
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Comments:

Otnal and Rlcfast1 have played 24 games of pearl harbor together. In the game 14752318, Rclfast1 took over 95% of green late in the game when matches were worth 45 and most people had 26-60 guys. Rclfast1 had no chance to eliminate green, because Otnal had a large stack blocking green. Otnal had 60+ total guys and green had 10 at most. Otnal had a no brainer path to take out green and turn in matches. Matches were worth more than the remaining 3 players troops. So Otnal turned in multiple matches and the game was over. Otnal and Rlcfast1 have played over 2,700 games each and both are from Canada. Rlcfast1 has only a 20% win rate, while Otnal is in the 40%. Looks like Otnal uses Rlcfast1 to up his stats. Otnal is a major. Rlcfast1 is Corporal 1st class. I confronted Otnal. He responded that he starts and Rlcfast1 joins. They are the same person I believe. Secret diplomacy at a minimum.
I really hate when people are cheating.

Rjwall41

Game number(s):
Game 14752318

by **Donelladan** on Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:58 am

They played 24 games together as you mentionned. Otnal won 5 of them. All the games were 5 players games except one game which was an 8 player game.

So, 5 of 24 is 1/5. Winning 20% of 5 players games is a very normal win percentage. If rlcfast1 has been cheating to help Otnal the win % of Otnal should be much higher

From those 24 games, rlcfast1 also won 5 of them. Again very normal percentage. And it also show that playing with rlcfast1 is actually rather bad for Otnal since rlcfast1 has a lower score than Otnal but win as much game as him. Shouldn't be the case if rlcfast1 was a multi of Otnal as you suggested.

It seems rlcfast1 just made a poor move.
And if they played 24 games together it seems it is only because they both like the pearl harbor map.

If you had snap of the map before rlcfast1 played and after he played it would maybe help to see if it was really impossible for rlcfast1 to kill green, because we can't see that now. But could still be a mistake anyway.

by **MagnusGreeol** on Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:58 am

- You can rule out multi 4sure, and I seriously doubt from what I know of Otnal, that there is secret dep.,, I think he's only ever even teamed a few times, let alone secretly team. I believe this is one for the trash bin-- I'm outty--->

by **rjwall41** on Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:07 am

Otnal has a 42% win percentage and plays mostly 5 player games(some 2 and some 8, but mostly 5). An average person would win 20%, he is more than twice that???
You are forgetting that Rlcfast1(corporal) has played over 2,700 games. Why would Otnal who is obviously trying to up his status want to play with a corporal?
Tell Otnal to play as partners if they like to play his 2 guys together.
Believe me, It was impossible for Rlcfast1 to take out green, because Otnal was protecting him on a plane.
Could you send them a friendly warning? It sure looked like more than a mistake.

by **Donelladan** on Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:25 am

Could you send them a friendly warning? It sure looked like more than a mistake.

Don't ask me. I am only a player just like you, not a mod from C and A.
But people receive warning only if there is strong evidence.

Otnal has a 42% win percentage and plays mostly 5 player games(some 2 and some 8, but mostly 5). An average person would win 20%, he is more than twice that???

As I mentioned in my first post, his win percentage when he play with rlcfast1 is 20% ( 5 games on 24, 20.83% to be precise).
If Otnal has 42% in general, but 20% when he plays with rlcfast1, it is quite obvious rlcfast1 is not helping Otnal isn't it?

because Otnal was protecting him on a plane.

Which plane?

2014-08-28 02:37:41 - Otnal assaulted K4 from West Virginia and conquered it from mainbord
2014-08-28 02:38:10 - Otnal assaulted Tucker from Case and conquered it from mainbord
2014-08-28 02:38:16 - Otnal assaulted Dobbin from Tucker and conquered it from mainbord
2014-08-28 02:38:21 - Otnal assaulted Z4 from Dobbin and conquered it from mainbord
2014-08-28 02:38:43 - Otnal assaulted Oklahoma from West Virginia and conquered it from brentwood1
2014-08-28 02:38:48 - Otnal assaulted K3 from Oklahoma and conquered it from brentwood1
2014-08-28 02:39:15 - Otnal assaulted Oil H from Oil G and conquered it from brentwood1
2014-08-28 02:39:34 - Otnal assaulted Henley from Monaghan and conquered it from mainbord
2014-08-28 02:39:41 - Otnal assaulted Dewey from Henley and conquered it from mainbord

mainbord is green, as I can see he had K4 and Z4, both planes can be bombarded from another positiion. So it seems it was possible.

Anyway, maybe it was impossible to kill green for rlcfast1 .But mistake do happen. Sometimes someone go for a kill, and just forget one region - it did happen to me at least couple of times - it doesn't mean you are helping the next player, only that you did a stupid mistake.

One game like this will not be enough to prove they are cheating - which I don't think they are - if you want them to receive a warning, look at all the other game they played together, and try to find out from the log if they helped each other. If other games also tend to prove they are helping each other maybe you're right, but otherwise this will probably get cleared, as it should be.

by **BGtheBrain** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:59 am

Otnal & rlcfast1 has been CLEARED of being multis and secret diplomacy

OP (rjwall41) has been BUSTED with ryanisgreat for being a multi.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:21 am

by **jltile1** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:37 am

BGtheBrain wrote:Otnal & rlcfast1 has been CLEARED of being multis and secret diplomacy

OP (rjwall41) has been BUSTED with ryanisgreat for being a multi.

Holy crap this is funny !!!!!! :lol:

by **tankgirl99** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:52 am

This is the sort of reason I read this bit of the forum haha

by **owenshooter** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:54 pm

tankgirl99 wrote:This is the sort of reason I read this bit of the forum haha

oh, this forum can be quite entertaining when it is on a roll... love threads like this.. i mean, i never assume that someone is a multi, because i would never do it... but i guess if you are a multi, you think everyone else is doing it too... know what i mean? anyway, very entertaining thread...-el Jesus negro

by **iAmCaffeine** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:17 pm

owenshooter wrote:
tankgirl99 wrote:This is the sort of reason I read this bit of the forum haha

oh, this forum can be quite entertaining when it is on a roll... love threads like this.. i mean, i never assume that someone is a multi, because i would never do it... but i guess if you are a multi, you think everyone else is doing it too... know what i mean? anyway, very entertaining thread...-el Jesus negro

Multi!

by **MagnusGreeol** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:58 pm

- Insanity at its greatest!!! Seriously!!

by **ZornSlayer** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:07 pm

How does the saying go?

Pot - Kettle - Black and forgot to use the non-stick spray? :oops:

by **Major.Bossman** on Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:57 pm

Wow what a twist. I bet there is egg on someone's face. Hey but this gave me an idea when a multi gets busted a little 8 or 16 bit cop shows up with the Cop's theme song. The word busted is written in red across the screen while the cop takes the player's name to CC jail.