Jonty125's Mad Mafia Game Over

[HotShot53]

Nagerous is cleared, and I can now PM with loot, nark, and nag.

In my mind, that clears Nag and loot.

I suppose the most likely suspects would be virus, hotshot, and nark.

In order from most suspicious to least (at least relatively)

1. Hotshot
2. Nark
3. virus

Am I interpreting this correctly that you researched Nag and cleared him? Or received a result he was out of town and couldn't be researched, in which case he could be anything?


Being as loot proved his ability, and nag is cleared... if there are 3 mafia, that leaves Nark, virus and neb... or pick any 2 if there is only 2 scum. Or maybe loot has the ability to recruit talkers but is scum anyway... I'm not sure if nark is bulletproof, or virus is lying about targeting him... but virus voting for him would indicate they aren't buddies, unless he's going deep undercover...

In any case nark's "can't claim, but I'm a VT" is the scummiest thing I've seen so far.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Nagerous is cleared, and I can now PM with loot, nark, and nag.

In my mind, that clears Nag and loot.

I suppose the most likely suspects would be virus, hotshot, and nark.

In order from most suspicious to least (at least relatively)

1. Hotshot
2. Nark
3. virus

1. We can safely assume that this is NOT a "cult" as we would be endgamed, if it were.

I busdrove kgb as I had said I would do, and switched him with nark... so either nark was targeted, or I was roleblocked so they knew they could kill kgb. I'm guessing I was roleblocked, so that they could combine killing the doctor with framing me.

Safari, did nark tell you his roll? Does he have a legitimate reason for not claiming?

I still think too many people have claimed power roles when I know I am a VT... So, the only question is who is lying.

2. This still bothers the hell out of me. You can't claim, yet you are claiming VT?

Alright, here's the claims...

1. Safariguy investigated Nag. (sidenote: Why the hell Nagerous? Was he the scummiest? I personally would have gone Hotshot, Anarkistsdream...but what's done is done, I guess...)
2. Virus targets Anarkistsdream...quite a gamble, but Hotshot or Nark weren't terrible choices.
3. Hotshot buses Nebuchadnezer with KGB. This could have really backfired on you Hotshot, as I targeted you last night for deflection.

Who's lying? Here are options:
1. Nark is lying. If Virus is telling the truth, then Nark must be more than VT.
2. Virus is lying. He didn't actually target Nark, but was claiming to target Nark after Hotshots original busdrive claim.
3. Hotshot is lying. He changed his drive story to make Virus look like a liar.

Clear players:

1. Safariguy - Safari, because of the complications here, we need to know if you actually got a result, or not. I understand you clearing Nag, but it's important to know you got a result of innocent.
2. Nagerous - investigated N3. Clear.

Almost clear:
3. Lootifer - I'll admit, it would be a bastard role to have a mafia player be able to "mason", so he has a good opportunity to be town. It says nothing as to who he has recruited though.

Possible scum:
4. Anarkistsdream - "Can't" claim...but has claimed VT, even though it's a game full of PRs?
5. Hotshot - bus driver claim. He had no actions N1 and N2, and botched his claimed action N3. Final claim for N3 is driving Neb and KGB.
6. Virus - one shot Vig claim. Targeted Anarkistsdream N3.

Here's what I can't get...why only one kill last night?
1. Anark is bulletproof...meaning he's lying and Virus is telling the truth. Nark is lying, and likely mafia...probably godfather.
2. Virus didn't target Nark and is lying. Virus is lying, and likely mafia.
3. We can assume the kill on KGB was mafia.
Other thoughts:
1. I'm still suspicious of Hotshot. Convenient he drives KGB to me, and yet KGB dies. He's also quick to jump on Nark.

I've got to think about this...back again tomorrow...(I've spent about two hours real time writing this and thinking about it)

[Anarkistsdream]

I am not lying. I can not claim. If you want to know my role, you must investiagte me at night... That is what I am forced to say... I have been completely forthcoming in this game. As much as allowed. I expect all of you that are in this game to believe me in the next... I have yet to be bad in any game. I also have not had any power roles lately. Guess what? That should be typical. Vanilla townie dhould be the number one role. For those that voted me: you most likely are townies. Scum knows I am innocent and will not vote at the beginning. They will follow your arguments. We have yet to kill one mafia. That is another reason town should trust me. The chances are that mafia is tiny... microscopic... Why would I have been so blunt? Get with it folks.

[jonty125]

Vote Count
Anarkistsdream (2) - virus90; Hotshot53

WIth 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Thursday 17 April @ 1800 GMT.

[nagerous]

Vote hotshotvote hotshot

Said my piece yesterday and the virus hotshot mafia is not going to make me change my mind. Thanks for clearing me safari at least people now know my intentions are honourable

[nagerous]

Coincidence that virus and hotshots actions both conveniently failed ? Making both of them with their night actions so far glorified vts

[Nebuchadnezer]

Vote Count
Anarkistsdream (2) - virus90; Hotshot53

WIth 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Thursday 17 April @ 1800 GMT.

Okay, had a night to process this. Hotshot s play from d3, combined with his n3 actions/claim tips the scales in his favor. Quite honestly,I think he's a mafia bus driver.
vote hotshot

[safariguy5]

To answer Neb's questions, I got a town result on nag. And I picked him because commuter is a pretty easy fakeclaim.

As for mafia, I can't help but feel that kgb dying is extremely convenient for hotshot to claim a busdrive. In fact, why not drive kgb with nark considering he's the scummiest person? If virus claims his shot didn't work also, then we can only have one roleblocker.

vote hotshot

As an aside, I find it extremely suspicious for virus to be using his vig kill at this point. We're very close to LYLO and you could have hit a townie and immediately endgamed us. Definitely my strong second target in terms of possible scum. FOS virus

[Lootifer]

vote hotshot

[HotShot53]

I think that puts me at L-1... sorry to town that I played bad I guess, and nice job to scum to rollblock me to make me look scummy. I shouldn't have been so forthcoming yesterday saying what I'd do to let them frame me so well.

To answer Neb's questions, I got a town result on nag. And I picked him because commuter is a pretty easy fakeclaim.

As for mafia, I can't help but feel that kgb dying is extremely convenient for hotshot to claim a busdrive. In fact, why not drive kgb with nark considering he's the scummiest person? If virus claims his shot didn't work also, then we can only have one roleblocker.

vote hotshot

As an aside, I find it extremely suspicious for virus to be using his vig kill at this point. We're very close to LYLO and you could have hit a townie and immediately endgamed us. Definitely my strong second target in terms of possible scum. FOS virus

How do you get a town result on a commuter? Don't they leave town and therefore night actions don't affect them? That seems a bit odd.

I didn't busdrive kgb with nark because I was afraid of virus targeting him... which virus says he did. I figured if I switched him with neb, and they targeted kgb anyway, then either neb would die and his claim be shown wrong, or he'd deflect it to someone else and his claim would stand up (and I'd be dead apparently, lol)

[Nebuchadnezer]

Um...I count four votes...

[Nebuchadnezer]

Safari gets town result because nag didn't commute last night. Commuters usually only committee every other night...That's why I wanted to know if safari got a result or not...to know when nag commuted.

[HotShot53]

Safari gets town result because nag didn't commute last night. Commuters usually only committee every other night...That's why I wanted to know if safari got a result or not...to know when nag commuted.

Ah, forgot about the every-other night thing. Makes sense now.

[HotShot53]

Um...I count four votes...

Somehow I misread something and though it took 5 votes to lynch... but yeah, with 4 I'm dead....

Good game scum, assuming you have 3 members you have now won. Probably 3 of the ones voting me, plus one misguided townie. Guess I should have pushed harder to lynch nark yesterday, I didn't consider how a roleblock on me could help them frame me.

[jonty125]

Vote Count
Anarkistsdream (2) - virus90; Hotshot53;
Hotshot53 (4) - nagerous; Nebuchadnezer; safariguy5; Lootifer

WIth 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Thursday 17 April @ 1800 GMT.

Hotshot53 v2.0 - Henrike - Town Busdriver has been lynched.


MAFIA HAVE WON alongside Metsfanmax

Nebuchadnezer - Bozhidar - Mafia Godfather has won
virus90 - Dorothea – Mafia Roleblocker has won
Lootifer - Gloria – Mafia Encryptor has won

Anarkistdream - Severina – Town Shy has been endgamed with a loss.
nagerous - Rudo – Town Commuter has been endgamed with a loss.
safariguy5 - Lenart – Town Cop has been endgamed with a loss.

[jonty125]

ROLE PMs

show: kgb007

show: safariguy5

show: new guy1

show: Anarkistdream

show: Eldario

show: Hotshot53

show: edocsil

show: nagerous

show: benga

show: crasp

show: NoSurvivors

show: Iron Butterfly

show: Nebuchadnezer

show: virus90

show: Lootifer

show: jdean1

[nagerous]

Vote Count
Anarkistsdream (2) - virus90; Hotshot53;
Hotshot53 (4) - nagerous; Nebuchadnezer; safariguy5; Lootifer

WIth 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Thursday 17 April @ 1800 GMT.

Hotshot53 v2.0 - Henrike - Town Busdriver has been lynched.


MAFIA HAVE WON alongside Metsfanmax

Nebuchadnezer - Bozhidar - Mafia Godfather has won
virus90 - Dorothea – Mafia Roleblocker has won
Lootifer - Gloria – Mafia Encryptor has won

Anarkistdream - Severina – Town Shy has been endgamed with a loss.
nagerous - Rudo – Town Commuter has been endgamed with a loss.
safariguy5 - Lenart – Town Cop has been endgamed with a loss.

Sorry hotshot, at least I was right about anarkists and I gotta say lootifer's role was a proper bitch of a role I didn't think something like that would exist and for shame on the mod with messing us like that !

[jonty125]

Night One
NoSurvivors roleblocks benga
Hotshot53 jailkeeps nagerous
virus90 roleblocks NoSurvivors
kgb007 docs safariguy5
Lootifer encrypts Anarkistdream
Lootifer kills edocsil
safariguy5 cops kgb007
crasp investigates NoSurvivors

Notes: NoSurvivors', action resolved before virus90 by coin flip. Anarkistdream's ability "Shy At Night" was not active at this stage

Night Two
Hotshot53 jailkeeps benga
NoSurvivors roleblocks benga
virus90 blocks nagerous
kgb007 docs safariguy5
Iron Butterfly cops Anarkistdream
safariguy5 cops NoSurvivors
Lootifer encrypts nagerous
Lootifer kills Iron Butterfly
Mets kills benga; Hotshot; No Survivors

Night Three
virus90 roleblocks hotshot v2.0
Hotshot v2.0 busdrives kgb & neb ROLEBLOCKED!
Lootifer encrypts safariguy5
Loot kills kgb007
safariguy5 cops nagerous

[jonty125]

Feedback Thread: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=609&t=203957

[HotShot53]

Wow, so nark was as good as he claimed... my bad.

Virus and Neb were my other 2 most suspicious people... but nark was my biggest target, so I guess even if we got my way we would have lost lol.

Mafia encryptor seems a bit of an overpowered role... he has a provable role with townies he's recruited vouching for him, the only way to find him out is a cop being suspicious enough to investigate him

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well played mafia...although, metsfanmax really did all the work. I still think that scene was awesome. I also thought virus was dead after his botched night action claim...

[safariguy5]

I did figure virus as pretty strongly scum, but I thought that hotshot was the better target. I knew we were hard up for the win anyways.

I was surprised mostly by hotshot not bussing himself with kgb. Or bussing nark. That was the main reason I went with hotshot over pursuing virus.

It was tough too, there were several claims that I thought were suspicious, I just ran out of time investigating all of them.

GG mafia, mets really hurt us bad this game.

[Anarkistsdream]

Wow, so nark was as good as he claimed... my bad.

Virus and Neb were my other 2 most suspicious people... but nark was my biggest target, so I guess even if we got my way we would have lost lol.

Mafia encryptor seems a bit of an overpowered role... he has a provable role with townies he's recruited vouching for him, the only way to find him out is a cop being suspicious enough to investigate him

Your bad and then some.

[kgb007]

gg all

[Lootifer]

GG guys.

Yeah my role was a little OP, but I was never really questioned or pressured - my chat mates didnt chat all that much (which was good for me).

I am surprised virus made it to endgame, and if he hadnt we would have had a much harder time winning. That RB manipulated the game nicely in our favor and negated a lot of towns main PRs - just the luck of it I suppose.

VERY surprised you didnt investigate virus last night though - nag seemed like an odd choice.