Jonty125's Mad Mafia Game Over

[Anarkistsdream]

still waiting on that prod for new guy..

If t is any consolation, I prodded newguy for Whitechapel Mafia, and there has been zero response

[Nebuchadnezer]

I can maybe buy the idea that he investigated NoS, but I think that it's a bit of a leap to assume NoS is town. Roleblocker is definitely a role that could be mafia as well as town, and for crasp to say that he think NoS is town sounds to me like he's trying to find someone who will believe/defend him. I think a crasp lynch can tell us something about whether NoS is town or not, might be good to set up discussion in the coming days.

Please explain how a Crasp lynch will tell us weather Nos is scum and not Town.

Well he is saying that he has cleared NoS, so there is that...

unvote NoS

Guys, are we really going ahead and lynching crasp, this seems a big risk considering his claim as a role cop, of course it is highly coincidental that he claims a role of someone who has claimed but there is a solution. It is also very easy for someone to mix up role cop and cop especially as a new player.

Why don't we let him investigate someone else and see if he can get their role correctly before we go ahead and blindly lynch a cop?

Then again judging by the posts on the last few days it seems to be pick on the n00b day, I thought we were meant to be a welcoming sub-forum.

I'm glad you corrected yourself on realizing the mafia role cop aspect...

Also, I don't think we are being mean or rude in game play with crasp. We have pointed out the mistakes and errors and scum-tells that he has dropped early and often. I think we've been rather accommodating by helping him to understand how to NOT blow his cover next time. The fact that we lynch him is part of the game.(now, it is hard to tell sarcasm, so I can't decide if that's how your comment was to be taken or not...)

Finally, you are free to take up a new case. No one has a gun to your head. Convince me(us) there is a better case...unless you would prefer to go into the night without a lynch. Happy with our one claim of the day.

[Metsfanmax]

Guys, are we really going ahead and lynching crasp, this seems a big risk considering his claim as a role cop, of course it is highly coincidental that he claims a role of someone who has claimed but there is a solution. It is also very easy for someone to mix up role cop and cop especially as a new player.

Why don't we let him investigate someone else and see if he can get their role correctly before we go ahead and blindly lynch a cop?

Then again judging by the posts on the last few days it seems to be pick on the n00b day, I thought we were meant to be a welcoming sub-forum.

Well, we all kind of knew this was newb behavior either way. That informed my vote as much as anything else. To say that we should back off just because he claimed doesn't make sense, because it would indicate that the initial wagon wasn't justified. (I mean, maybe it wasn't...)

As for the suggestion of having him investigate someone, I don't like it so much because he might accidentally reveal a town PR that needs to stay hidden.

[NoSurvivors]

I can maybe buy the idea that he investigated NoS, but I think that it's a bit of a leap to assume NoS is town. Roleblocker is definitely a role that could be mafia as well as town, and for crasp to say that he think NoS is town sounds to me like he's trying to find someone who will believe/defend him. I think a crasp lynch can tell us something about whether NoS is town or not, might be good to set up discussion in the coming days.

Please explain how a Crasp lynch will tell us weather Nos is scum and not Town.

Well he is saying that he has cleared NoS, so there is that...

unvote NoS

Guys, are we really going ahead and lynching crasp, this seems a big risk considering his claim as a role cop, of course it is highly coincidental that he claims a role of someone who has claimed but there is a solution. It is also very easy for someone to mix up role cop and cop especially as a new player.

Why don't we let him investigate someone else and see if he can get their role correctly before we go ahead and blindly lynch a cop?

Then again judging by the posts on the last few days it seems to be pick on the n00b day, I thought we were meant to be a welcoming sub-forum.

While I agree with what you're saying I feel like a role cop if far more deadly in a game full of power roles for mafia than town. I think it is worth the risk, however the same could be said about roleblocker so I guess my point I is rather hypocritical lol

[NoSurvivors]

Also, sorry for the double post but I would be a lot more hesitant to lynch him if he didn't have so many mistakes/tells.

Also for those of you saying if I survive the night I'm scum... wouldn't that be a genius tactic for scum. Leave him alive, kill a townie and let town lynch him tomorrow... just saying.

[jonty125]

Vote Count

crasp (5) - Iron Butterfly; safariguy5; Nebuchadnezer; Metsfanmax; Anarkistsdream;
new guy1 (2) - kgb007;
Hotshot51 (1) - crasp;

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is Friday 14 March @ 1800 GMT. If the vote count were to remain so at deadline a crasp would be lynched.

benga & new guy1 has been prodded.

[HotShot53]

Vote Count

crasp (5) - Iron Butterfly; safariguy5; Nebuchadnezer; Metsfanmax; Anarkistsdream;
new guy1 (2) - kgb007;
Hotshot51 (1) - crasp;

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is Friday 14 March @ 1800 GMT. If the vote count were to remain so at deadline a crasp would be lynched.

benga & new guy1 has been prodded.

Somehow I'm guessing there won't be much activity in here, with everyone just waiting until friday and the inevitable lynch. The case has been argued enough that I don't think 3 more will vote him at this point to lynch him sooner, nor will enough drop their vote to not lynch him. So... is there anything to do except wait?

[Anarkistsdream]

Not particularly. Twiddle our thumbs?

[Nebuchadnezer]

Vote Count

crasp (5) - Iron Butterfly; safariguy5; Nebuchadnezer; Metsfanmax; Anarkistsdream;
new guy1 (2) - kgb007;
Hotshot51 (1) - crasp;

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is Friday 14 March @ 1800 GMT. If the vote count were to remain so at deadline a crasp would be lynched.

benga & new guy1 has been prodded.

Somehow I'm guessing there won't be much activity in here, with everyone just waiting until friday and the inevitable lynch. The case has been argued enough that I don't think 3 more will vote him at this point to lynch him sooner, nor will enough drop their vote to not lynch him. So... is there anything to do except wait?

6 people haven't voted. I would like them to take a stand. There has been plenty to weigh in on. We need a record of where you stand.

To sit back and not vote scummy to me.

[virus90]

i have taken a stand and said i was ok on voting him, i still am.

im not voting since i want to give crasp atleast a chance to defense himself, / full claim.
but the case against him is pretty solid. its very convenient to say you researched nos, since at the point you say it its the only player who has outed. the mix up with cop or role cop just made it worse.
so this is me softvoting on him...

so to put my money where my mouth is
vote crasp

[benga]

this is what I found on wiki

In some role madness games or in games with multiple scum groups, the condition that Role Cop does not learn its target's alignment is not applied. Role Cops will learn the full role name of their targets.

I have made way too many mistakes in this game so more claiming isnt going to help and is just letting scum in with safe posts.
Role Cop is my role. I did investigate Nos. He is a roleblocker and I believe town. I also think he hit pay dirt on the first night and role blocked mafia. The poisoner is something else. Nos claims he blocked Benga. Check who the tag team IB and hotshot voted for before jumping over and lynching another townie. Now hot shot who was looking scummy has backed off leaving IB to keep the pressure on. He has pointed out that I am modding a game trying to insinuate that I am more experienced than i am letting on. That is a clan game and i am being coached by Eptaph. As Epitaph is not a clan member it needs to be in this forum not the clan one. IB knows this.
Good luck Town.

unless I am mistaken both crasp and NOS are mafia, am I making wrong assumption?

[virus90]

well i dont totally agree with you benga, the conclusion you make is one of the possible outcomes. but there are more, and i think that if one of them flips maffia the next target is clear. however, there are just to many possibility's

Crasp is maffia, used a fake claim, and cleared the only 1 who he knew the role of and since he is maffia he knows that NoS is not
or crasp is maffia and faked claimed and cleared his scumbuddy in a attempt to clear them both (the benga reasoning, if i get you right?)
or crasp is speaking the truth he is a rolecop and unluckily investigated the only one who claimed yet
or crasp is something else altogether, but my fantasy stops at a certain point and i would still be typing all other possibilitys till tomorrow if i would speculate further.
So benga your making a assumption, which we dont know yet if is true. well thats pretty worthless if i put it that way [lol sarcasm, irony or some other form of humor]
either way we only have/need 1 lynch during daytime. and things are looking like its gonna be crasp at the moment...

[benga]

yeap about clear them both, but that's maybe not true...

but the other thing is indicative, role cop in mad mafia can see the alignment and here we have crasp saying he believes he is town...

[safariguy5]

yeap about clear them both, but that's maybe not true...

but the other thing is indicative, role cop in mad mafia can see the alignment and here we have crasp saying he believes he is town...

Right, which is why I'm suspicious of the claim. Maybe crasp knows that roleblocker is a pretty common mafia role maybe he doesn't. But believing that NoS is town is less certain than if he got that NoS was a doctor or a cop. Those roles (while not unheard of) are much less likely to be mafia unless it's a faction game or a particularly large one with multiple anti town factions.

To me, this reads like someone who is trying to come up with something useful in order not to be lynched.

[Lootifer]

I intend to vote crasp. I am still unsure of his guilt, but he is certainly far more scummy than other options.

Bit of time left on deadline, but unless some of the people on the crasp wagon jump off nothing will change; is it just new guy who hasn't really had any input into the crasp thing? I'd like to see him either comment or be replaced before we hammer.

[Lootifer]

ebwop: By nothing changing I mean it's unlikely we will get anymore useful information out of this day.

[Anarkistsdream]

New guy has had an exyremely shitty weekend. He will post tonight or tomorrow, but it was real life that screwed him, not scummarining

[new guy1]

Thank you for explaining anark. As far as Im concerned, Crasp should just be lynched. Hes not giving a full name claim, so as far as we know, he is mafia. I have class, and didnt get any sleep tonight, so I will post in around 7 hours when I am out, provided I dont take a nap. I have a midterm, and Im already burned out, so I would not rule out that nap.

[jonty125]

Vote Count

crasp (6) - Iron Butterfly; safariguy5; Nebuchadnezer; Metsfanmax; Anarkistsdream; virus90
new guy1 (1) - kgb007;
Hotshot51 (1) - crasp;

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Deadline is Friday 14 March @ 1800 GMT. If the vote count were to remain so at deadline a crasp would be lynched.

[Anarkistsdream]

If you think that is true, newguy, why did you not vote him?? That makes you look like buddies.

[new guy1]

I didnt vote him because I didnt want to end the day prematurely. I will now vote crasp. L1 now

[Lootifer]

crasp can you fully claim, and list your reads please.

[nagerous]

crasp can you fully claim, and list your reads please.

There has only been one night phase, he said his read was NoS and he got told he was a roleblocker - no alignment?

I have had a change of heart on this one and am ready to hammer, though respecting Lootifer's request I will let crasp speak first.

[Anarkistsdream]

Ctasp hasn't posted in HOW many days? We are waiting on him to do what exactly?

[NoSurvivors]

Ctasp hasn't posted in HOW many days? We are waiting on him to do what exactly?

Post the name of his role I believe. This day has taken quite a while and I've had literally nothing useful to say. It will be interesting if crasp turns up town though, especially with everyone convinced otherwise.

Honestly I think it's time to hammer him. If crasp was town he would fight harder to stay alive and not just deadbeat as he seems to have. He would give as much information as he possibly could (name of his role in this case). He doesn't seem to want to give town anything so either way IMO a pretty pathetic townie. (Apologies if this is harsh, crasp. But if you're town next game it would be wiser to give town as much info as possible even if they lynch you as they are your team!)