- by 'richer', I mean (a) in terms of wealth, (b) utility, or (c) whatever you think.
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A Fun Question about Poverty
How do you make poor people richer?
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If "richer" has an (a), (b), and (c).....does "poor" also have an (a), (b), and (c)? Or just an (a)?BigBallinStalin wrote:
- by 'richer', I mean (a) in terms of wealth, (b) utility, or (c) whatever you think.
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Give them jobs and education.
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
"Give them" you say?PLAYER57832 wrote:Give them jobs and education.
Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
By reducing regulations and expanding the roles of free markets in all parts of the impoverished people's lives.
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Yeah...that doesn't really sound fair to the poor working schmucks who have to sacrifice to pay for their child's education....thegreekdog wrote:"Give them" you say?PLAYER57832 wrote:Give them jobs and education.
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Word. Along with the change of mindset that a belief in the Christian God brings, as Matthew Parris wrote regarding the situation in Africa:mrswdk wrote:By reducing regulations and expanding the roles of free markets in all parts of the impoverished people's lives.
http://old.richarddawkins.net/articles/ ... -needs-god
Matthew Parris wrote:Those who want Africa to walk tall amid 21st-century global competition must not kid themselves that providing the material means or even the knowhow that accompanies what we call development will make the change. A whole belief system must first be supplanted.
And I'm afraid it has to be supplanted by another. Removing Christian evangelism from the African equation may leave the continent at the mercy of a malign fusion of Nike, the witch doctor, the mobile phone and the machete.


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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
inb4 give them money/tax the rich/more government vs. make them earn the money/lower taxes/less government
If it was that easy, there wouldn't be any poor people now would there?
If it was that easy, there wouldn't be any poor people now would there?
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Provide two simple things:
- Provide for them the opportunity, free of significant barriers, to become "not poor" or, ideally, "rich". This includes removing the protectionism so common with the modern "rich"
- Ensure that all children, regardless of the poor decision making capacity of their parents, can eat well, maintain good health and experience equivilent levels of education to children who have good decision making parents
I would also suggest trying to establish a culture where we don't subsidise intelligence and ambition (or greed if you will) so heavily, but that's in the too hard basket for now (and not something that can be centrally planned nor will it come from the free market in its current form).
- Provide for them the opportunity, free of significant barriers, to become "not poor" or, ideally, "rich". This includes removing the protectionism so common with the modern "rich"
- Ensure that all children, regardless of the poor decision making capacity of their parents, can eat well, maintain good health and experience equivilent levels of education to children who have good decision making parents
I would also suggest trying to establish a culture where we don't subsidise intelligence and ambition (or greed if you will) so heavily, but that's in the too hard basket for now (and not something that can be centrally planned nor will it come from the free market in its current form).
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Ending corruption might help.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 80135.html
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 80135.html
According to the World Bank, corruption in the form of bribery and theft by government officials, the main target of the UN Convention, costs developing countries between $20bn and $40bn each year. That's a lot of money. But it's an extremely small proportion - only about 3 percent - of the total illicit flows that leak out of public coffers. On the other hand, multinational companies steal more than $900bn from developing countries each year through tax evasion and other illicit practices.
Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Good answer, Mr. Swift.notyou2 wrote:Eat the poor.
Problem solved.
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You may call me JonathonDoomYoshi wrote:Good answer, Mr. Swift.notyou2 wrote:Eat the poor.
Problem solved.

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Maybe.Metsfanmax wrote:Ending corruption might help.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 80135.html
According to the World Bank, corruption in the form of bribery and theft by government officials, the main target of the UN Convention, costs developing countries between $20bn and $40bn each year. That's a lot of money. But it's an extremely small proportion - only about 3 percent - of the total illicit flows that leak out of public coffers. On the other hand, multinational companies steal more than $900bn from developing countries each year through tax evasion and other illicit practices.
What percent is $40bn of the total wealth of developing countries? Like... <0.001%?
I'm more skeptical about that last estimate of $900bn. It could be the case that their governments allow them to do so. It's like a subsidy for preferred customers.
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Yarp. It ain't that easy!Army of GOD wrote:inb4 give them money/tax the rich/more government vs. make them earn the money/lower taxes/less government
If it was that easy, there wouldn't be any poor people now would there?
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-reduce barriers to trade? How?Lootifer wrote:Provide two simple things:
- Provide for them the opportunity, free of significant barriers, to become "not poor" or, ideally, "rich". This includes removing the protectionism so common with the modern "rich"
- Ensure that all children, regardless of the poor decision making capacity of their parents, can eat well, maintain good health and experience equivilent levels of education to children who have good decision making parents
I would also suggest trying to establish a culture where we don't subsidise intelligence and ambition (or greed if you will) so heavily, but that's in the too hard basket for now (and not something that can be centrally planned nor will it come from the free market in its current form).
- how? Dump more food on them?
What'chya mean with the underlined? "Subsidize greed"?
Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
My answers are after your 3 questions.BigBallinStalin wrote:-reduce barriers to trade? How? - Remove the fences around the garbage dumpsLootifer wrote:Provide two simple things:
- Provide for them the opportunity, free of significant barriers, to become "not poor" or, ideally, "rich". This includes removing the protectionism so common with the modern "rich"
- Ensure that all children, regardless of the poor decision making capacity of their parents, can eat well, maintain good health and experience equivilent levels of education to children who have good decision making parents
I would also suggest trying to establish a culture where we don't subsidise intelligence and ambition (or greed if you will) so heavily, but that's in the too hard basket for now (and not something that can be centrally planned nor will it come from the free market in its current form).
- how? Dump more food on them? - Transfer them all close to the garbage dumps
What'chya mean with the underlined? "Subsidize greed"? - We stop letting "the man" control the garbage dumps

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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Trickle down effect got Milton Friedman nobel prize... for a total fu#¤K up idea!
By getting them real work, and a meaningful life!
By getting them real work, and a meaningful life!
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Haha, "let them eat garbage." Well done, notyou2. Your presidential position of the World Bank awaits you.notyou2 wrote:My answers are after your 3 questions.BigBallinStalin wrote:-reduce barriers to trade? How? - Remove the fences around the garbage dumpsLootifer wrote:Provide two simple things:
- Provide for them the opportunity, free of significant barriers, to become "not poor" or, ideally, "rich". This includes removing the protectionism so common with the modern "rich"
- Ensure that all children, regardless of the poor decision making capacity of their parents, can eat well, maintain good health and experience equivilent levels of education to children who have good decision making parents
I would also suggest trying to establish a culture where we don't subsidise intelligence and ambition (or greed if you will) so heavily, but that's in the too hard basket for now (and not something that can be centrally planned nor will it come from the free market in its current form).
- how? Dump more food on them? - Transfer them all close to the garbage dumps
What'chya mean with the underlined? "Subsidize greed"? - We stop letting "the man" control the garbage dumps
Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Do I get to make unwanted sexual advances to hotel cleaning staff?BigBallinStalin wrote:Haha, "let them eat garbage." Well done, notyou2. Your presidential position of the World Bank awaits you.notyou2 wrote:My answers are after your 3 questions.BigBallinStalin wrote:-reduce barriers to trade? How? - Remove the fences around the garbage dumpsLootifer wrote:Provide two simple things:
- Provide for them the opportunity, free of significant barriers, to become "not poor" or, ideally, "rich". This includes removing the protectionism so common with the modern "rich"
- Ensure that all children, regardless of the poor decision making capacity of their parents, can eat well, maintain good health and experience equivilent levels of education to children who have good decision making parents
I would also suggest trying to establish a culture where we don't subsidise intelligence and ambition (or greed if you will) so heavily, but that's in the too hard basket for now (and not something that can be centrally planned nor will it come from the free market in its current form).
- how? Dump more food on them? - Transfer them all close to the garbage dumps
What'chya mean with the underlined? "Subsidize greed"? - We stop letting "the man" control the garbage dumps

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It depends on the hotel's policies, sir.
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
I suppose increase the general wealth of society. What is considered poor changes on time and place.

Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Give them the rich peoples money, obviously.
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Re: A Fun Question about Poverty
Please be more precise as to what is meant by 'poor people'.
