Rail Australia [Quenched]

[MrBenn]

I'm playing my first game on this map, and I was convinced there was a dot between LHC and QLP indicating a connection... It's definitely there, and looks more like an attack route on the small map. If I lose the game, I'm going to blame that dot!

[cairnswk]

I'm playing my first game on this map, and I was convinced there was a dot between LHC and QLP indicating a connection... It's definitely there, and looks more like an attack route on the small map. If I lose the game, I'm going to blame that dot!

of course Mr Benn, you can blame anything you like...except your own eyes.
That black dot is actually the tip of the railway station roof.

[MrBenn]

Now that you've told me what it is, I can see that. I still think it's an issue on the small map - it's the combination of the circles on the roof that lead to that bit of the roof looking like it isn't the roof... and as the two stations are so close it feels like they could connect... Yes, I should have been paying more attention, but this kind of thing is the trivial kind of thing that puts people off maps (I haven't knowingly played China since misattacking Shaanxi/Shanxi)...

[Qwert]

LHC QLP,hmm i must say that i dont see any black dots betwen these two station.

[the.killing.44]

LHC QLP,hmm i must say that i dont see any black dots betwen these two station.

now fill the area around that with 580x550px of similar graphics.

.44

[cairnswk]

Version 30...fixes the roof of LHC station, the station has been moved southwest by 4 pixels on both maps.
There should be no room for poor interpretation now.

Click image to enlarge.

http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/_rail_australia.xml

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[MrBenn]

Thanks

[cairnswk]

updated!

[trapyoung]

On map inspect ADL R borders BDT but BDT only says it connects to O and V rails, map should be updated to show that BDT also hits R - is BOB wrong or is the map incorrect?

[cairnswk]

On map inspect ADL R borders BDT but BDT only says it connects to O and V rails, map should be updated to show that BDT also hits R - is BOB wrong or is the map incorrect?

My map inspect says that BDT hits ADL R and ADL O which is correct, as well BGO V and MEL V

[trapyoung]

Why does ADL R border BDT tho? BDT only has O and V next to it's name on the map implying it is linked to those stations on the O and V lines but nothing about R, while PGA on the other hand lists R, G, and I next to the territory name definitely noting that it links to those stations on the R, G and I lines? What I'm saying is that BDT needs something next to it to say it is connected to the R station or the xml must be updated because those territories are not supposed to be linked.

[MrBenn]

Actually, you may have a point...
Both BHL and BDT are connected to ADL R along yellow dotted lines; this would suggest that these stations could have 'R' indicators; although the indicators are there to denote the bonus groupings rather than connections. There is some ambiguity, for sure; but I'm not convinced there are any actual errors

For comparison, TNC and ISA are clearly connected, although neither station shares any bonus/line indicators.

[trapyoung]

Well my response would be that ADL R and BDT are not clearly connected, I could understand why ADL O is connected because of the proximity and link but PGA links to three territories on "the wheel" and has G, I, and R on the territory name, while BDT only links to two - I find it ambiguous without map inspect to infer that BDT borders ADL R while the bonus structure infers PGA links to those areas on ADL, nothing really shows why BDT does not - why doesn't BDT also hit three of the territories on "the wheel"? I bring this up because in a clan game my partner and I disputed whether the territory BDT could hit ADL R or whether BOB was wrong because he does not use BOB and relies on the map solely to determine connections

[Chariot of Fire]

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[Kinnison]

-doublepost. second one more thorough. sorry-

[Kinnison]

Okay... cairnswk has addressed this, but I STILL have a question. so, let me restate the issue and explain.

For what reason can Broken Hill (BHL, I&N routes) attack Adelaide R (ADL R) as well as ADL I?
For what reason can BDT O&V attack ADL R?

This seems to be a bug solely with ADL R having extra connections. By what APPEARS on the map, it should connect ONLY to the other 3 ADL stations, and PGA (G,I,R).

1. BHL borders ADL-R even though it doesn't have the letter R on the station.

2. BDT borders ADL-R even though it doesn't have the letter R on the station.

I was going to mention this too.

Of course they border....they are all encompassed with the ADL station, therefore it makes sense that that BDT and BHL would border.

If this is the case, Why do not ALL ADL stations border EVERY adjacent station?

Specifically:
PGA (G,I,R) only borders ADL G, ADL I, and ADL R. *not* ADL O, which is "encompassed with the ADL station".
BHL (I,N) only borders ADL I and ADL R. *not* ADL O or ADL G, both of which are "encompassed with the ADL station".
BDT (O,V) only Borders ADL O, and ADL R. *not* ADL G or ADL I, both of which are "encompassed with the ADL station".

I'm sorry, but the logic is inconsistent.

[agentcom]

I don't think that O/V-BDT should connect to R-ADL. Same thing with I/N-BHL now that I look at it. The only station that is labelled R that connects to ADL (and hence should border R-ADL) is G/I/R-PGA.

[Gilligan]

I don't think that O/V-BDT should connect to R-ADL. Same thing with I/N-BHL now that I look at it. The only station that is labelled R that connects to ADL (and hence should border R-ADL) is G/I/R-PGA.

Wow.

EDIT: This appears to have had a discussion before, and was just never changed.

[agentcom]

Haha, yeah I didn't read even this page. Simple fix, right? Not sure you even need the mapmaker for a minor XML change that's consistent with the map, or am I wrong about that? Probably moot anyway because cairns is pretty good about keeping on top of this stuff.

[Gilligan]

Haha, yeah I didn't read even this page. Simple fix, right? Not sure you even need the mapmaker for a minor XML change that's consistent with the map, or am I wrong about that? Probably moot anyway because cairns is pretty good about keeping on top of this stuff.

I sent him a pm, always good to keep him in the loop.

[Gilligan]

this has been updated.

[agentcom]

this has been updated.

You guys are awesome.