mornar & Ainia - Multis/Secret Diplomacy[es]

by **Doctor Spin** on Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:56 am

Accused:

mornar
Ainia

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 13905149

Comments: Both players are new accounts. I initially gave the benefit of the doubt to RED (mornar) due to his/her apparent inexperience, given the number of games he/she had apparently played. GREEN (Ainia) was apparently playing his/her very first game. Yet is soon became apparent that Ainia (GREEN) was showing much more aptitude for the game than his/her zero games would suggest. I accept (more than most) that the luck of the dice plays a large part - but it became clear after two rounds that mornar (RED) was helping Ainia (GREEN) to win. Green was collecting significant bonus spoils yet red was making no attempt to break the bonuses - when he did attack green it was only in non-crucial territories. Meanwhile, RED was consistently attacking me (BLUE) even though GREEN was overrunning the play.
It might also be significant to note that neither player used game chat - and both are from Serbia.
I believe this is probably a Multi account...or at the very least they are friends who are conducting secret diplomacy. Please look into this.

by **Evil Semp** on Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:49 pm

This game is FOG. It would help if you gave a few more details for each round. I can only go by the game log and you know that isn't to detailed. Put snapshots in the open chat I think that should help.

by **Doctor Spin** on Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:57 pm

Don't know what you mean by snapshots. Also, unless you pick up the same IP address for these "two" jokers, I know through bitter experience that nothing will get done. I've brought it to your attention - but that's all I can do really. If you can't see through the fog, I sure as hell can't either. It'll be their word against mine. #resignedtodefeat

by **ke_rassa** on Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:27 pm

The MOD's cann't see through fog games, just like everyone else, and have have to wait for the game to be over to read the full game log, just like everyone else. He is asking for screen shots of your game or at least the game log to help piece together a better picture of whats going on as you are fairly vague about whats happening and need to supply more details.

by **a6mzero** on Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:42 pm

Its been my experience when u are in a game with multiple players from the Balkans they are tighter than Lindsey Lohan and a bottle of vokda.

by **Doctor Spin** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:48 am

Haha - don't know if you've heard about the Eurovision Song Contest and it's famously biased judging, but that makes sense!

by **Evil Semp** on Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:27 pm

Per the PM received from the OP and lack of support from the OP I am marking this Closed.

by **Doctor Spin** on Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:16 pm

Not lack of support. That's unfair. All I'm trying to do is stop cheats playing on this site. For me to be painted as the villain for drawing a potential breach of rules to your attention is priceless. As I indicated earlier, I knew nothing would be done. If you can't be arsed to check if something's going on, why do we have mods on this site at all?

Thanks for your support.
An angry "PREMIUM" member!!!

by **Evil Semp** on Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:09 pm

Doctor Spin wrote:Not lack of support. That's unfair. All I'm trying to do is stop cheats playing on this site. For me to be painted as the villain for drawing a potential breach of rules to your attention is priceless. As I indicated earlier, I knew nothing would be done. If you can't be arsed to check if something's going on, why do we have mods on this site at all?

Thanks for your support.
An angry "PREMIUM" member!!!

You can accuse and claim you did your part. I explained that I can not see through the fog and requested that you do snap shots so I could see how things went from round to round. Your response was to say you would just stop playing the game. Here is a quote from the PM you sent me. The part highlited above can be said about you also. All I asked was a little more detail and some snapshots. My question to you is if you make an accusation why can't you help a little? I think lack of support was an accurate description of your effort.

Doctor Spin wrote: it's probably easier if I just stop playing rather than try to fight against these cheats. Not your fault, but life's too short to spend any more time thinking about them.

by **Doctor Spin** on Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:43 am

It's not even worth replying to that. But....If you don't see what I'm saying, that's very unfortunate. Quite depressing to know that cheats prosper while subscription-paying regular players like me are left with a distinctly bitter taste after being brushed away with such carefree abandon by a so-called moderator (Multi Hunter!). I pay for a service - what you're suggesting is like paying for a taxi ride and asked to do the driving!!
This site is so badly run. Unfortunately I'm addicted to Risk. But I'm working on it.

by **GoranZ** on Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:41 am

Doctor Spin wrote:It's not even worth replying to that. But....If you don't see what I'm saying, that's very unfortunate. Quite depressing to know that cheats prosper while subscription-paying regular players like me are left with a distinctly bitter taste after being brushed away with such carefree abandon by a so-called moderator (Multi Hunter!). I pay for a service - what you're suggesting is like paying for a taxi ride and asked to do the driving!!
This site is so badly run. Unfortunately I'm addicted to Risk. But I'm working on it.

They have only 1 game against each other, so far they don't have same IP(not a multi) and they attacked each other quite often. So that leaves the Multi-Hunter with only your word "they are playing together"... But if he message them they will say that attack each other in the pointed game. Looks like you need more evidence to support your theory, "I said this, they said that" is not enough.

btw mornar should be he, IDK what should Ainia be

by **TheForgivenOne** on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:10 pm

Doctor Spin wrote:It's not even worth replying to that. But....If you don't see what I'm saying, that's very unfortunate. Quite depressing to know that cheats prosper while subscription-paying regular players like me are left with a distinctly bitter taste after being brushed away with such carefree abandon by a so-called moderator (Multi Hunter!). I pay for a service - what you're suggesting is like paying for a taxi ride and asked to do the driving!!
This site is so badly run. Unfortunately I'm addicted to Risk. But I'm working on it.

How is ES supposed to look into it when he can't see the map? All he see's is question marks. Just because we are MH's, doesn't mean we can see through Fog of War.