Summer vs. Winter Mafia (6/13) Game Over. Mafia (Winter) Won

[jonty125]

No votes have been cast.

Deadline is Monday 7 October @ 1700 BST. (as before)

[Hensow]

sorry when jonty couldn't end day 3 I stop checking for a start of day 4 time as stuff was happening so I just read through day 4
as to the matter of kgb saying who he targeted it entirely possible that kgb reviling will get the player night killed, I would well I'd probably kill kgb.

[new guy1]

Try not to post WIFOM Hensow. That can cause problems if the mafia were to kill kgb, because then heres your post right here saying "I'd probably kill kgb" *dramatic zoom in* "kill kgb" *one more for emphasis* "KGB".

Sarcasm's out of my system now. Okay kgb, I dont know why you're so tight lipped. If you were more than willing to share your NA, it would not have taken much convincing. But Ill let it go for now, because if I keep forcing it, this might go on too long (though I feel it already has). Does anyone else have information to go off of?

[jonty125]

Mass Prod. I think the downtime ate skillfusniper's post.

[safariguy5]

Well I'm going to take the silence to mean that nobody really has any information to go off of. I really don't think a no lynch is a good idea at this point, but I don't want to randomly pressure someone. I'll look back at the last few pages of posts to see if I can find a good reason to vote someone.

[spiesr]

Alright, let's come up with something. I suggest that we start by having everybody explain their votes during Day 3's runoff period. I'll start.
I waited most of the 24 hour period to see how things were going to shape up so I could avoid throwing my vote away. After a while I concluded that either everyone else had the same idea or that they weren't going to vote before the deadline at all. Then I went ahead and voted for Stubbs for the same (admirably weak) suspicions that I had mentioned during the day.

Now, let's see what you guys have to say for yourselves.

[safariguy5]

I voted for Fircoal mainly because he tried to pursue a case on me based on little to no evidence after the IB lynch.

[skillfusniper33]

so for the post that was eaten by the website (I promise you I didn't delete it). I went back through the past 2 day's and couldn't come up with much for any new evidence. And I have been extremely busy over the past week and a half.

As for me not voting I came in with the lynch already being decided, and since my vote wouldn't count I decided against it. My vote would have been on stubbs (if I can remember my thought process correctly)

[kgb007]

I was one of the first to vote fircoal bc he was advocating lynching saf even though he admitted his case against saf was no longer relevant and bc he was so adament that lynch someone with no credible information to go on

[new guy1]

Sorry, havent been on for a couple days till now.

I voted fircoal mostly because I wasnt sure who to vote, but thought fircoal better than stubbz (cause of the weak case on saf).

[Hensow]

As I said on page 18 I voted fircoal because I saw him and stubbs as colliding with stubbs, secondly his case ageist saf seemed to be a hook waving at anyone.

[spiesr]

Well, that wasn't very enlightening and time is short now.
Vote Newguy The way he tried to get KGB to reveal the details of who he visited isn't sitting well with me. I see no reason to doubt KGB's claim today, so if he didn't find anything that can convict anybody him revealing the details of his action is likely to help scum more than it would town.
Can we get a Prod on Stubbs & Dazza?

[new guy1]

Well, that wasn't very enlightening and time is short now.
Vote Newguy The way he tried to get KGB to reveal the details of who he visited isn't sitting well with me. I see no reason to doubt KGB's claim today, so if he didn't find anything that can convict anybody him revealing the details of his action is likely to help scum more than it would town.
Can we get a Prod on Stubbs & Dazza?

You may be surprised to know I did have a valid reason to be asking, but because throwing it out there would have given away my intentions (and probably is now), I didnt ask it.

I will ask kgb however, to reveal his NA again, as when I am forced to give away the nature of my question, I will hope that it is justification enough to get him to speak. I will point out that I find it odd that he was "more than willing" to share his action, but then wouldnt after very little advisement and assurance from the onlookers.

So be it.

[kgb007]

i am more than willing to share my NA if it benefits town and you failed to convince me it does

Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?

So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.

i'm not concerned about this bc i know i'm not scum and my NA's will prove it if need be

I dont see why he needs a reason. The only people hes helping by revealing who he visited is town, as mafia most likely doesnt care who he visited.

how did revealing my NA in D3 help us? it didn't clear stubbs...

You may be surprised to know I did have a valid reason to be asking, but because throwing it out there would have given away my intentions (and probably is now), I didnt ask it.

I will ask kgb however, to reveal his NA again, as when I am forced to give away the nature of my question, I will hope that it is justification enough to get him to speak. I will point out that I find it odd that he was "more than willing" to share his action, but then wouldnt after very little advisement and assurance from the onlookers.

So be it.

might as well get on it with it because it's equally odd that you dance around the intention for asking me to reveal without just doing it...

vote new guy1 for the same reasons spiesr said above and to tell us what his intention is behind asking me to reveal my NA

[jonty125]

FINAL VOTE COUNT
new guy1 (2) - spiesr; kgb007

new guy1 - Alistar (Town Tracker) has been lynched.

Night Four Begins. Deadline for night actions is Thursday @ 0700 BST.

[new guy1]

Great job. I didnt know the deadline was incoming, but whatever. Good game, goooooooo town.

[jonty125]

Reminder 15 hours until night action deadline.

[jonty125]

skillfusniper33 - Hannah (Town Cop) has been stabbed with an icicle.

The winter worshippers, no longer had to worship in secret, they dropped there facades and slew, all those who opposed them.

kgb007 - David (Town Jailkeeper) has been endgamed.
StubbsKVM - Dennis (Vanilla Townie) has been endgamed.
Hensow - Jack (Vanilla Townie) has been endgamed.

Dazza2008 - Shawn (Mafia Godfather) has won.
spiesr - Martin (Mafia Roleblocker) has won.
safariguy5 - Jalessa (Mafia Goon) has won.

[jonty125]

show: Skillfusniper

show: kgb007

show: new guy1

show: ghostly447

show: Hensow

show: Iron Butterfly

show: StubbsKVM

show: thechuck51

show: TheForgivenOne

show: gregwolf121

show: Mafia

Night One
skillfusniper33 investigates Iron Butterfly (Town)
new guy1 tracks TFO (nobody)
Mafia (safariguy5) kills TFO

Players that did nothing: ghostly447; kgb007; spiesr

Night Two
spiesr roleblocks skillfusniper
new guy1 tracks spiesr (skillfusniper)
skillfusniper33 investigates safariguy5 ROLEBLOCKED!!
kgb007 jailkeeps StubbsKVM
Mafia (safariguy5) kills gregwolf121


Players that did nothing: ghostly447;

Night Three
spiesr roleblocks kgb007
kgb007 jailkeeps safariguy5 ROLEBLOCKED!
skillfusniper33 investigates dazza2008 (Town)
new guy1 tracks kgb007 (nowhere)
Mafia (safari) kills ghostly

Players that did nothing: ghostly447;

MOD NOTE:Due to conflict caused by spiesr, and kgb007, a coin flip was used to determine, who got their action away first, spiesr won.

Night Four
kgb007 jailkeeps spiesr
spiesr roleblocks kgb007
skillfusniper33 investigates spiesr (Mafia)
Mafia (safari) kills skillfusniper33

MOD NOTE:Due to conflict caused by spiesr, and kgb007, a coin flip was used to determine, who got their action away first, kgb007 won.

[jonty125]

show: Skillfusniper

show: kgb007

show: new guy1

show: ghostly447

show: Hensow

show: Iron Butterfly

show: StubbsKVM

show: thechuck51

show: TheForgivenOne

show: gregwolf121

show: Mafia

Night One
skillfusniper33 investigates Iron Butterfly (Town)
new guy1 tracks TFO (nobody)
Mafia (safariguy5) kills TFO

Players that did nothing: ghostly447; kgb007; spiesr

Night Two
spiesr roleblocks skillfusniper
new guy1 tracks spiesr (skillfusniper)
skillfusniper33 investigates safariguy5 ROLEBLOCKED!!
kgb007 jailkeeps StubbsKVM
Mafia (safariguy5) kills gregwolf121


Players that did nothing: ghostly447;

Night Three
spiesr roleblocks kgb007
kgb007 jailkeeps safariguy5 ROLEBLOCKED!
skillfusniper33 investigates dazza2008 (Town)
new guy1 tracks kgb007 (nowhere)
Mafia (safari) kills ghostly

Players that did nothing: ghostly447;

MOD NOTE:Due to conflict caused by spiesr, and kgb007, a coin flip was used to determine, who got their action away first, spiesr won.

Night Four
kgb007 jailkeeps spiesr
spiesr roleblocks kgb007
skillfusniper33 investigates spiesr (Mafia)
Mafia (safari) kills skillfusniper33

MOD NOTE:Due to conflict caused by spiesr, and kgb007, a coin flip was used to determine, who got their action away first, kgb007 won.

[Fircoal]

If only we had listened to me when I said that we should lynch safari. *lesigh*

[skillfusniper33]

The sad part is I was able to nail all 3 of them in investigations, but couldn't get any results with taht wonderful roleblock, and getting the Godfather.

[safariguy5]

If only we had listened to me when I said that we should lynch safari. *lesigh*

Very impressive to hit that read on me, but I figured if we could get rid of IB, that would take the heat off.

Extra investigative role and no strong protective role, this game was meant for lots of death I see.

[jonty125]

Extra investigative role and no strong protective role, this game was meant for lots of death I see.

Yes I decided to change the standard cop + doc model, and see how 2 investigative roles played out.

[Fircoal]

If only we had listened to me when I said that we should lynch safari. *lesigh*

Very impressive to hit that read on me, but I figured if we could get rid of IB, that would take the heat off.

Thank you. And the thing is it did. I still felt that you were scum, but I know that I didn't have much to back it up anymore. Personally I am not the person who likes to go for gut feelings because I know others can't trust them, so I didn't really have much I could do there. Still I was pretty sure you were scumzors