Summer vs. Winter Mafia (6/13) Game Over. Mafia (Winter) Won

[ghostly447]

Vote fircoal

[new guy1]

Sooooo its been 4 days. Are we gonna get this game started back up?

[Fircoal]

Sooooo its been 4 days. Are we gonna get this game started back up?

I don't think Jonty can see the forum

[new guy1]

Sooooo its been 4 days. Are we gonna get this game started back up?

I don't think Jonty can see the forum

o.o I must be uninformed. Whats up?

[jonty125]

Hello all I'm back. Well I was never gone but for reasons unknown to me, I haven't been able to login to the forum since the update but now I'm back, even though I was never gone (sort of).

Please note this is a blanket message, before I do any reading.

[jonty125]

VOTE COUNT

StubbsKVM (1) - spiesr;
Fircoal (6) - kgb007; dazz2008; Hensow; safariguy5; newguy 1; ghostly447
Safariguy5 (2) - Fircoal; StubbsKVM

Fircoal - Stephen (Vanilla Townie) has been lynched.

It is now night, deadline for night actions is Friday 27 September @ 1600 BST.

[jonty125]

Another victim, had an icicle in the back. High Priestess Karen.

ghostly - Karen (Town 1-Shot Vigilante) has been stabbed by an icicle.

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is Monday 7 October @ 1700 BST.

[spiesr]

So, now we have a dead (fairly weak) power role. As such the existence of town power role is confirmed but we pretty much all knew that already.
So, kgb007, since you already outed yourself as a power role, did you get anything of value last night?

[ghostly447]

Gg go town!

[kgb007]

So, now we have a dead (fairly weak) power role. As such the existence of town power role is confirmed but we pretty much all knew that already.
So, kgb007, since you already outed yourself as a power role, did you get anything of value last night?

i did not..

[dazza2008]

So, now we have a dead (fairly weak) power role. As such the existence of town power role is confirmed but we pretty much all knew that already.
So, kgb007, since you already outed yourself as a power role, did you get anything of value last night?

i did not..

Kind of did when you said.

since this doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I know for a fact Stubbs did not visit gregwolf last night

[spiesr]

I assumed he was saying he did not find anything of value...

[dazza2008]

I assumed he was saying he did not find anything of value...

Ah yeah. I see now. I took it he meant he did not hint at a power

[kgb007]

glad that's straighten out, i could see how that could be confused but for the record, I did not find anything of value

[new guy1]

Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

[kgb007]

Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?

[new guy1]

Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?

So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.

[dazza2008]

Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?

So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.

What?

I don't see that there is any need for him to reveal his result unless he has something to go on.

[new guy1]

Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?

So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.

What?

I don't see that there is any need for him to reveal his result unless he has something to go on.

I dont see why he needs a reason. The only people hes helping by revealing who he visited is town, as mafia most likely doesnt care who he visited.

[spiesr]

Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?

So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.

What?

I don't see that there is any need for him to reveal his result unless he has something to go on.

Newguy wants him to reveal his actions now so that in case he is faking he will have a more difficult time coming up with fake actions whereas if he waits until other people claim stuff he could just say he saw them do that stuff. Of course the reverse is also true where if he is town and tracked a scum member then it makes it easier for them to fake claim if they know what he saw them do (or not do).

[new guy1]

Spies gets it, but while there are possible downsides, I feel like since he is the only semi-claimed role we might as well start piecing together who isnt getting visited and who is.

[safariguy5]

May also help figure out who kgb might have suspicions on should he turn up dead later. Not always the best of leads, but usually people with night actions pick targets for a reason.

[kgb007]

I dont see why he needs a reason. The only people hes helping by revealing who he visited is town, as mafia most likely doesnt care who he visited.

i don't see the point of revealing my night action for N3, i claimed my N2 action but it still didn't clear stubbs and so how does it help town?

and why would you argue that mafia doesn't care who i visited?

Newguy wants him to reveal his actions now so that in case he is faking he will have a more difficult time coming up with fake actions whereas if he waits until other people claim stuff he could just say he saw them do that stuff. Of course the reverse is also true where if he is town and tracked a scum member then it makes it easier for them to fake claim if they know what he saw them do (or not do).

why would I be faking?? there was nothing to go on D3 so I offered up what I did N2, if I was scum, how would that benefit me?

we're not at LyLo scenario but if we don't get today right and lynch the wrong person, coupled with a successful N4 kill by scum, we're pretty much toast right?

in hindsight, I feel somewhat guilty/responsible for fircoal's lynch since I was one of the first to jump on it but in hindsight he was playing a pretty strong VT game, right??

[new guy1]

I dont see why he needs a reason. The only people hes helping by revealing who he visited is town, as mafia most likely doesnt care who he visited.

i don't see the point of revealing my night action for N3, i claimed my N2 action but it still didn't clear stubbs and so how does it help town?

and why would you argue that mafia doesn't care who i visited?

Newguy wants him to reveal his actions now so that in case he is faking he will have a more difficult time coming up with fake actions whereas if he waits until other people claim stuff he could just say he saw them do that stuff. Of course the reverse is also true where if he is town and tracked a scum member then it makes it easier for them to fake claim if they know what he saw them do (or not do).

why would I be faking?? there was nothing to go on D3 so I offered up what I did N2, if I was scum, how would that benefit me?

we're not at LyLo scenario but if we don't get today right and lynch the wrong person, coupled with a successful N4 kill by scum, we're pretty much toast right?

in hindsight, I feel somewhat guilty/responsible for fircoal's lynch since I was one of the first to jump on it but in hindsight he was playing a pretty strong VT game, right??

He was. I argue mafia doesnt care because you made it pretty obvious who you are, and if you didnt catch them then they can play ball all day. Your argument that it wouldnt have benefited you to guide us can go both ways. Just in Rock and Roll mafia, I was lynched basically because I claimed when I didnt have to. I dont see how this is different, except you havent claimed, but youve given a pretty damning role description, and so the information being out there would suit town's best interest IMO.

[kgb007]

well i remain unconvinced so i'm going to hold off for now