Summer vs. Winter Mafia (6/13) Game Over. Mafia (Winter) Won
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Hensow wrote:what do you expect me to say
Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
This is a violation of the "spirit" of Rule 2, but I am willing to overlook this because in the OP there is a sample town role PM (glad you all read it, next time I'll put in who's scum). THIS IS A BLANKET WARNING TO ALL PLAYERS!! PLAY By THE RULES there is no harm in asking me, before you post if something is/isn't allowed.kgb007 wrote:what color was your role PM?Hensow wrote:summer
Rant over. Enjoy the game
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Incidentally, if it's a flavor thing, NPC kills tend to be a different color than town and mafia role PM's.
Well I suppose the evidence suggests hensow is telling the truth, but a claimed VT automatically drops to the low end of mafia kill targets. Unfortunately, a VT's job is really to act like a power role and soak up a NK from mafia. And by claiming it, you've basically reduced the odds of that happening.
More to the point, I'm a bit pessimistic as to whether hensow is going to offer much in the way of leads or cases moving forward, I could definitely see potential submarining in the next few game days.
Well I suppose the evidence suggests hensow is telling the truth, but a claimed VT automatically drops to the low end of mafia kill targets. Unfortunately, a VT's job is really to act like a power role and soak up a NK from mafia. And by claiming it, you've basically reduced the odds of that happening.
More to the point, I'm a bit pessimistic as to whether hensow is going to offer much in the way of leads or cases moving forward, I could definitely see potential submarining in the next few game days.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
The game is Summer vs Winter. Winter did the killing so I assume they are mafia (red). Why would a Summer VT be orange?? Could it be that Summer has a cult leader that must recruit Summer VTs?

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Did we read the op?Iron Butterfly wrote:The game is Summer vs Winter. Winter did the killing so I assume they are mafia (red). Why would a Summer VT be orange?? Could it be that Summer has a cult leader that must recruit Summer VTs?
What fraction are you I image if I or you were in a cult we might know?
Is this an attempt to throw us? Have you just found that summer is gold/orange?
I assumed it was sun/ice or hot/cold but all that was in the op (very big) was
jonty125 wrote: SUMMER!! vs. WINTER!! These are the colours I'll use to represent the factions!!
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
LOL yes I did miss that. If I had read and comprehended the color scheme I would not have asked such a question. It would make no sense to do so. Jonty has a bad habit of messing with the color schemes in his games.Hensow wrote:Did we read the op?Iron Butterfly wrote:The game is Summer vs Winter. Winter did the killing so I assume they are mafia (red). Why would a Summer VT be orange?? Could it be that Summer has a cult leader that must recruit Summer VTs?
What fraction are you I image if I or you were in a cult we might know?
Is this an attempt to throw us? Have you just found that summer is gold/orange?
I assumed it was sun/ice or hot/cold but all that was in the op (very big) wasjonty125 wrote: SUMMER!! vs. WINTER!! These are the colours I'll use to represent the factions!!
I find it highly unlikely that Winter and Summer are split evenly because, well we have 13 players.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21
Vote Count
Hensow (6) - safariguy5; new guy1; thechuck51; gregwolf121; ghostly447; dazza2008
gregwolf121 (2) - spiesr; kgb007;
Iron Butterfly (1) - skillfusniper;
safariguy5 (1) - TheForgivenOne;
skillfusniper (1) - Iron Butterfly;
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Monday 26 August @ 0900 GMT. If the votes were to remain at the time of posting, at deadline, Hensow would be lynched.
thechuck51 has been prodded.
Hensow (6) - safariguy5; new guy1; thechuck51; gregwolf121; ghostly447; dazza2008
gregwolf121 (2) - spiesr; kgb007;
Iron Butterfly (1) - skillfusniper;
safariguy5 (1) - TheForgivenOne;
skillfusniper (1) - Iron Butterfly;
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Monday 26 August @ 0900 GMT. If the votes were to remain at the time of posting, at deadline, Hensow would be lynched.
thechuck51 has been prodded.
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
I'm not quite sure were you found a suggestion that they were evenlyIron Butterfly wrote: I find it highly unlikely that Winter and Summer are split evenly because, well we have 13 players.
Vote IB because he didn't answer witch faction he was, I'm not shore if hes Winter or 3rd party but I don't think he's Summer based on his last 2 posts
Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Surely your pm had the right colour is you are summer. invote vote IBIron Butterfly wrote:The game is Summer vs Winter. Winter did the killing so I assume they are mafia (red). Why would a Summer VT be orange?? Could it be that Summer has a cult leader that must recruit Summer VTs?

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Why not ask for a mass claim if this is the way we are playing?Hensow wrote:I'm not quite sure were you found a suggestion that they were evenlyIron Butterfly wrote: I find it highly unlikely that Winter and Summer are split evenly because, well we have 13 players.
Vote IB because he didn't answer witch faction he was, I'm not shore if hes Winter or 3rd party but I don't think he's Summer based on his last 2 posts

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
because no one else said something that seem odd for anyone but a third party to.Iron Butterfly wrote: Why not ask for a mass claim if this is the way we are playing?
Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
ebwopdazza2008 wrote:Surely your pm had the right colour if you are summer. unvote vote IBIron Butterfly wrote:The game is Summer vs Winter. Winter did the killing so I assume they are mafia (red). Why would a Summer VT be orange?? Could it be that Summer has a cult leader that must recruit Summer VTs?

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Hensow if you want to learn his fraction you should probably start by building a case instead of just asking. You will need about 5 people to back you before he would even think about claiming.Iron Butterfly wrote:Why not ask for a mass claim if this is the way we are playing?Hensow wrote:I'm not quite sure were you found a suggestion that they were evenlyIron Butterfly wrote: I find it highly unlikely that Winter and Summer are split evenly because, well we have 13 players.
Vote IB because he didn't answer witch faction he was, I'm not shore if hes Winter or 3rd party but I don't think he's Summer based on his last 2 posts
I agree with IB here that he shouldn't be claiming right out of the gate, and I see the same thing of you asking for a mass claim on day 1.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Does he need to make a case?skillfusniper33 wrote:Hensow if you want to learn his fraction you should probably start by building a case instead of just asking. You will need about 5 people to back you before he would even think about claiming.Iron Butterfly wrote:Why not ask for a mass claim if this is the way we are playing?Hensow wrote:I'm not quite sure were you found a suggestion that they were evenlyIron Butterfly wrote: I find it highly unlikely that Winter and Summer are split evenly because, well we have 13 players.
Vote IB because he didn't answer witch faction he was, I'm not shore if hes Winter or 3rd party but I don't think he's Summer based on his last 2 posts
I agree with IB here that he shouldn't be claiming right out of the gate, and I see the same thing of you asking for a mass claim on day 1.
The case made itself he questioned the colour. If he was summer he would have got the same colour.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Lets assume I KNEW Winter was blue and Summer was orange. Why would I then say winter is mafia red and question why Summer is third party Orange?Iron Butterfly wrote:The game is Summer vs Winter. Winter did the killing so I assume they are mafia (red). Why would a Summer VT be orange?? Could it be that Summer has a cult leader that must recruit Summer VTs?
You have two choices to believe.
A) I am extremely stupid to ask such a question knowing that the answer was already ready printed.
B) I skimmed and did not register the color sceme for this game.
Now if you believe that I knew the colors when I posted I want you to explain how exactly that would help me and my faction?
I have been playing here for a while at CC and I have played with almost everyone in this game. The same exact shit happened in the last game of jonties I played in called Office mafia. I have always played games where mafia is red, town is blue and third party is orange. Its as simple as that.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Of course I noticed my role pm and its color.dazza2008 wrote:So you never noticed on your role pm?
You did not answer my question. Answering my question with a question avoids and deflects my original question on the situation.
You either believe a made an honest mistake OR you believe I had some strategy in mind.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
I don't believe that there are just these 2 option. You could be anything. You could be a third party. I will say that I do not think you are extremely stupid because clearly you are not but I can't say that you seem town to me. Surely you can see why what you did is making some of us suspicious of you?Iron Butterfly wrote:Of course I noticed my role pm and its color.dazza2008 wrote:So you never noticed on your role pm?
You did not answer my question. Answering my question with a question avoids and deflects my original question on the situation.
You either believe a made an honest mistake OR you believe I had some strategy in mind.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
The suspicion is on me simply and solely because I got the colors wrong in my very first statement. I have explained why.dazza2008 wrote:I don't believe that there are just these 2 option. You could be anything. You could be a third party. I will say that I do not think you are extremely stupid because clearly you are not but I can't say that you seem town to me. Surely you can see why what you did is making some of us suspicious of you?Iron Butterfly wrote:Of course I noticed my role pm and its color.dazza2008 wrote:So you never noticed on your role pm?
You did not answer my question. Answering my question with a question avoids and deflects my original question on the situation.
You either believe a made an honest mistake OR you believe I had some strategy in mind.
Besides the color mixup I want you to explain how I have not "seemed" like town. I made a mistake and have spent the entire time since that first post explaining what happened.
So explain how town is suppose to act in this situation.
More important no one has been able to explain how my initial statement/question would help my faction in any way.
if I was Winter it does not help. If I am Summer it does not help. If I am third party it does not help.
Stubbs just conveniently jumped the bandwagon with no comment whatsoever.

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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
It's simple. You questioned the colour. I don't see why you would unless you never knew. You said you did notice on your pm but yet you questioned it.
It is day 1 so not the best case in the world but the best I can see.
It is day 1 so not the best case in the world but the best I can see.

Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
What he said.dazza2008 wrote:It's simple. You questioned the colour. I don't see why you would unless you never knew. You said you did notice on your pm but yet you questioned it.
It is day 1 so not the best case in the world but the best I can see.
And I would feel bad lynching Hensow, who I think is town.
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
I really think it lays on this. You say you noticed it in your role PM, yet you wonder why on earth a VT would be coloured after his faction...dazza2008 wrote:It's simple. You questioned the colour. I don't see why you would unless you never knew. You said you did notice on your pm but yet you questioned it.
It is day 1 so not the best case in the world but the best I can see.
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (13/13) D1: June 21 Deadline: 26
Once again no one has been able to answer WHY I would do what i did. Theorize...give me a valid logical reason I would make such a play??

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