If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?In Indiana, police officers are upset over a new law allowing residents to use deadly force against public servants, including law enforcement officers, who unlawfully enter their homes.
The law was adopted after the Indiana State Supreme Court ruled that there was “no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers," after a man assaulted an officer during a domestic violence call.
The law's author, Republican state Sen. Michael Young, said there haven't been any cases [yet] in which people have used the law to justify shooting police.
The National Rifle Association lobbied for the new law, claiming that the Indiana State Supreme Court decision had legalized police to commit unjustified entries.
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Indiana is the first U.S. state to specifically allow force against officers, according to the Association of Prosecuting Attorneys in Washington, which represents prosecutors.
New Indiana Law Allows Citizens to Kill Police Officers
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Knock, knock who's there..police. Until the almighty U.S.A get their gun legislation right, then this won't be a problem 

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There'll be an almighty shitstorm if you dare to question their constitutional right to bear arms however reasonably..it's just taboo..don't you realise there is no connection between the obscenely high levels of gun ownership and gun crime there?Agent 86 wrote:Knock, knock who's there..police. Until the almighty U.S.A get their gun legislation right, then this won't be a problem
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Is this a bad thing? Cuz it sounds fine to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you have the right to defend yourself even against police in the case of unlawful detainment or arrest. Not that it'll end well for you, but, whatever. This just clears the "killing a police officer" charge one would get.
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for once, you are right.chang50 wrote:don't you realise there is no connection between the obscenely high levels of gun ownership and gun crime there?Agent 86 wrote:Knock, knock who's there..police. Until the almighty U.S.A get their gun legislation right, then this won't be a problem

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So the solution to gun crime is staring us in the face,we just need more guns?IPhatscotty wrote:for once, you are right.chang50 wrote:don't you realise there is no connection between the obscenely high levels of gun ownership and gun crime there?Agent 86 wrote:Knock, knock who's there..police. Until the almighty U.S.A get their gun legislation right, then this won't be a problem
Know the truth is often counter intuitive but its a stretch to summise a billion guns would result in negligible gun crime in the us.or perhaps you believe we can extrapolate that from your statistics..
Is it possible the relationship is more subtle and nuanced than that..
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No. I didn't say anything about any solutions.chang50 wrote:So the solution to gun crime is staring us in the face,we just need more guns?IPhatscotty wrote:for once, you are right.chang50 wrote:don't you realise there is no connection between the obscenely high levels of gun ownership and gun crime there?Agent 86 wrote:Knock, knock who's there..police. Until the almighty U.S.A get their gun legislation right, then this won't be a problem
Know the truth is often counter intuitive but its a stretch to summise a billion guns would result in negligible gun crime in the us.or perhaps you believe we can extrapolate that from your statistics..
Is it possible the relationship is more subtle and nuanced than that..
I merely revealed a simple truth; thus debunking a myth propagated far too often.
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its just like the concealed carry laws, who wants to attack someone not knowing if there are armed or not
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This is a good law, although I'm not sure why there needs to be a law specifically referencing public servants.chang50 wrote:There'll be an almighty shitstorm if you dare to question their constitutional right to bear arms however reasonably..it's just taboo..don't you realise there is no connection between the obscenely high levels of gun ownership and gun crime there?Agent 86 wrote:Knock, knock who's there..police. Until the almighty U.S.A get their gun legislation right, then this won't be a problem
I see you left the word "legal" before the words "gun ownership." I think it's appropriate to leave that word out.
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So, essentially, when it comes time for the officers of the peace to kick a door in, they run a check to see if anyone in the residence has firearm permits. If they see it is not likely there is a firearm in the residence, they will be more brazen and careless with your rights and your property. If they see that that the residence has permits/licenses and it is likely they have firearms, they are going to be more cautious and respectful of individual and property rights.
That is one way the second amendment is key to protecting the rest of our rights.
That is one way the second amendment is key to protecting the rest of our rights.
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I guess, but if I'm not doing anything wrong then I'd be afraid if cops just randomly entered my house too. Afraid that they're doing something they shouldn't be doing.GreecePwns wrote: If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?
And I mean Obama has been unlawfully killing citizens anyway so this just makes the field a little more even.
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Scrolling down, I glanced at the title and thought this thread was about a new Indiana Jones film.
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in other words, just cuz you aren't doing anything wrong doesn't mean that the people kicking your door down are also not doing anything wrong.Army of GOD wrote:I guess, but if I'm not doing anything wrong then I'd be afraid if cops just randomly entered my house too. Afraid that they're doing something they shouldn't be doing.GreecePwns wrote: If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?
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Oh no, that was directed toward the cops who barge into a house and kick the shit out of someone before realizing they got the wrong house number.Army of GOD wrote:I guess, but if I'm not doing anything wrong then I'd be afraid if cops just randomly entered my house too. Afraid that they're doing something they shouldn't be doing.GreecePwns wrote: If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?
And I mean Obama has been unlawfully killing citizens anyway so this just makes the field a little more even.
Or the NYPD douchebags who are complaining now that some of the mayoral candidates are discussing the idea of putting cameras on uniforms.
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If they don't have a warrant they are indeed violating the 5th amendment. If they don't tell you they have a warrant and they kick your door down..... well then its probable that you will assume that they don't have one. And if they don't have the warrant they shouldn't be kicking your door in anyways.Phatscotty wrote:in other words, just cuz you aren't doing anything wrong doesn't mean that the people kicking your door down are also not doing anything wrong.Army of GOD wrote:I guess, but if I'm not doing anything wrong then I'd be afraid if cops just randomly entered my house too. Afraid that they're doing something they shouldn't be doing.GreecePwns wrote: If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?
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Best idea for policing ever.GreecePwns wrote:Oh no, that was directed toward the cops who barge into a house and kick the shit out of someone before realizing they got the wrong house number.Army of GOD wrote:I guess, but if I'm not doing anything wrong then I'd be afraid if cops just randomly entered my house too. Afraid that they're doing something they shouldn't be doing.GreecePwns wrote: If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about, right?
And I mean Obama has been unlawfully killing citizens anyway so this just makes the field a little more even.
Or the NYPD douchebags who are complaining now that some of the mayoral candidates are discussing the idea of putting cameras on uniforms.
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You must have really shitty police in Murica.

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If the police unlawfully enter your home, they aren't acting as police officers, they are acting as criminals. When a criminal storms into your house guns a blazing, you shoot back.
If the police follow the law, there is nothing to worry about. This piece of legislation just re-enforces current law.
If the police follow the law, there is nothing to worry about. This piece of legislation just re-enforces current law.
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