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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby IcePack on Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:04 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Hey Ice, I have a request but am not sure how much of a pain it would be to implement. You have a column with the up & down arrows showing position change since the previous chart. For the most part these don't change for a majority of clans so there's not much to read in it. Is it possible to add a column showing points +/- that have been won/lost since the previous update? For me that would make the most pertinent column to read as opposed to the routine 'No change' which has been the same for months now (despite our score moving up and down). Thanks for considering this.


To be clear - do you want both column or just the newly proposed point change?
I'm fine w this if it's desired, I do the report manually bcuz the auto generated arrows aren't correct. So it isn't a huge inconvenience to add another column...

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:11 pm

Both would be great, but if I had to choose one over the other I'd prefer to see the points change in a month rather than the arrows (and if you have to do the arrows manually maybe that in itself is a pain in the ass, whereas the points could easily be done with a formula).
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby IcePack on Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:49 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Both would be great, but if I had to choose one over the other I'd prefer to see the points change in a month rather than the arrows (and if you have to do the arrows manually maybe that in itself is a pain in the ass, whereas the points could easily be done with a formula).


ok pretty sure i can make that happen next update.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:42 am

You're a smart fella :)
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Kinnison on Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:45 pm

Thanks for the hard/good work, IcePack!
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby IcePack on Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:58 pm

Anything else people would like to see? Even if not twice a month, but maybe i can do special reports or something quarterly, or every 6 months. If theres something interesting people want to see that isn't crazy burdensome, ill consider it.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:10 am

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:16 am

Question. There have been two updates since 1st Feb (on 1st March & 15th March) but there's nothing to show what results have been included in those updates. The last entry in the 'Completed Wars' tab on the OP is dated 29th Jan 2013 and the tab itself says 'Completed Wars Included in Feb 1 Ranking'. What happened to all subsequent results? Cheers
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby IcePack on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:50 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Question. There have been two updates since 1st Feb (on 1st March & 15th March) but there's nothing to show what results have been included in those updates. The last entry in the 'Completed Wars' tab on the OP is dated 29th Jan 2013 and the tab itself says 'Completed Wars Included in Feb 1 Ranking'. What happened to all subsequent results? Cheers


Hmm your right. I realized I been posting the results before i post but forgot to update that area in OP. I'll correct it and be sure to update at the same time again. Thanks :)
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Fewnix on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:04 pm

How about some graphing of the results or average, median, range trend type thingies? :ugeek: :oops:

Has Kort been number 1 every single month from March 2012 though March 2013 and never been been beat? I think TOFU was 4th March 2012 and is now 2nd - has it been a slow steady climb to the top - 4th to 3rd to 2nd? or some ups and downs -4th to 3rd back to 4th down to 5th- back up to 4th, 3rd , then second? range 5th to 2nd? average ranking 3.1 or 4.6?

Any fast riser - moved up ten ranks from 48th to 38th? -:big droppers? went from 29th to 34th - mood swings? went from 27th to 33rd an then dropped to 28th (all numbers picked at random, no relationship to reality :oops: :oops: :oops:

Appreciate all you have done, are doing and will do =D> =D>
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IcePack wrote:Anything else people would like to see? Even if not twice a month, but maybe i can do special reports or something quarterly, or every 6 months. If theres something interesting people want to see that isn't crazy burdensome, ill consider it.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Swifte on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:06 pm

IcePack wrote:
BGtheBrain wrote:damn you, you know i like that info, wheres TNC end up with the 12 month!?!?!?!


Not sure, I only checked out the top 10/12. I can do the whole thing this weekend if everyone's interested


Nah, it's just BG :D :lol:
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby IcePack on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:57 pm

Fewnix wrote:How about some graphing of the results or average, median, range trend type thingies? :ugeek: :oops:

Has Kort been number 1 every single month from March 2012 though March 2013 and never been been beat? I think TOFU was 4th March 2012 and is now 2nd - has it been a slow steady climb to the top - 4th to 3rd to 2nd? or some ups and downs -4th to 3rd back to 4th down to 5th- back up to 4th, 3rd , then second? range 5th to 2nd? average ranking 3.1 or 4.6?

Any fast riser - moved up ten ranks from 48th to 38th? -:big droppers? went from 29th to 34th - mood swings? went from 27th to 33rd an then dropped to 28th (all numbers picked at random, no relationship to reality :oops: :oops: :oops:

Appreciate all you have done, are doing and will do =D> =D>
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IcePack wrote:Anything else people would like to see? Even if not twice a month, but maybe i can do special reports or something quarterly, or every 6 months. If theres something interesting people want to see that isn't crazy burdensome, ill consider it.


I usually do post graphs, not much had changed and had some time limitations, they will return for sure.

Maybe yearly summary? Like, this is where people started and ended. Plus any new clans that entered that year? Hmm. It could easily show the biggest gains / drops on it.

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby slickstick on Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:37 am

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Genoke on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:39 am

slickstick wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=304&t=186810&p=4082117#p4082117

TLW win against UM8S 28-27

seems like that was a close one!
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Keefie on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:15 pm

Genoke wrote:seems like that was a close one!


Certainly closer than 29-26 that's for sure :-$ :lol:
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:44 pm

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby slickstick on Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:48 am

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby jetsetwilly on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:03 am

slickstick wrote:CL5

TLW(5)-EMP(3)


My understanding with these CL5 results was that icepack can only include them when both the home and away legs have been played for a total of 16 games which are added together the for the purposes of the F400.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:07 am

No idea, but that makes sense
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:17 am

yes,im all ready talk(before start of Cl5) with icepack,,and result will be incuded together(home and away) for F400.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby IcePack on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:28 am

qwert wrote:yes,im all ready talk(before start of Cl5) with icepack,,and result will be incuded together(home and away) for F400.


This. qwert is tracking when both are completed and date for final game completion.
So 8 game results will not be included.

Thanks qwert & jet for answering on my overnight :)

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby josko.ri on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:39 am

IcePack wrote:
qwert wrote:yes,im all ready talk(before start of Cl5) with icepack,,and result will be incuded together(home and away) for F400.


This. qwert is tracking when both are completed and date for final game completion.
So 8 game results will not be included.

This principle has logical error. Look example:

in rounds 1 and 2 there are playing lets say this clans:

AvsB finished
CvsA finished, but unable to include as DvsC is unfinished
DvsC unfinished

So, if matches of clan A are finished and match DvsC is not finished, will it be included or not?
From one side, clan A finished all their matches so their 8 matches including CvsA should be included according to this logic, and from other side clan C did not finish their 8 matches, so match CvsA should not be included.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby IcePack on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:45 am

I'm not sure I understand your post. But:

Clan A home vs clan B (8game)
clan b home vs Clan A (8 game)

When both sets of 8 (16 total) finish, it can be recorded.

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby jetsetwilly on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:45 am

I think you misundertood ?

A v C and C v A will happen at two different points. When all games are finished in those 2 matches, the result are added together.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 03-15-13]

Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:47 am

josko.ri wrote:
IcePack wrote:
qwert wrote:yes,im all ready talk(before start of Cl5) with icepack,,and result will be incuded together(home and away) for F400.


This. qwert is tracking when both are completed and date for final game completion.
So 8 game results will not be included.

This principle has logical error. Look example:

in rounds 1 and 2 there are playing lets say this clans:

AvsB finished
CvsA finished, but unable to include as DvsC is unfinished
DvsC unfinished

So, if matches of clan A are finished and match DvsC is not finished, will it be included or not?
From one side, clan A finished all their matches so their 8 matches including CvsA should be included according to this logic, and from other side clan C did not finish their 8 matches, so match CvsA should not be included.

I dont understand wht you mean, because your example are wrong
Round 1
A vs B(in Cl5 these calculate like one match)
Round 6
B vs A(in Cl5 these calculate like one match)

A vs B and B vs A results are calculate together in F400 (A home+ A away vs B home + B away) and these give one match with 16 games. But these its only valid here in F400.
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