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Leehar wrote:lol, saw this on the homepage and thought gameplay comments were needed, but seems it's already moved ahead.
I was just wondering what use the cities had. Thought they'd work as auto-deploys or something, otherwise they're just wasted space?
I also didn't understand why the bonuses with the cities inside them are +4 (since they essentially can only be hit from inside their bonus), while something like North-west which can be broken on all 5 of it's territories, is worth +5?
I had the same question about the +2's but I guess the neutrals provide the equality.
Also, why is 24 terr. a golden number? it gives 1v1 12 terr each?
even though they have army holders on them?It took a while to click on the fact that the other countries are playable territories,
maybe make that more visible? Could they have their own bonus as well?
Also, could dd move up a bit to be fully enclosed in yellow(N.Somali)? Otherwise it looks like it borders Central Oromia?
SNNPR, could it not all be written on one line or closer together? It seems a bit disconnected right now.
And then, I remember some sort of conspiracy whereby the Ethiopians were blocking the flow of the nile with a dam, could that be incorporated into the image somewhere?
btw, Whats the star in 'O' for Ethiopia; and what are the images in the corners?
RedBaron0 wrote:I believe that there is a issue that will create a lot of confusion. Its the bridges in whole territories across impassibles. Southern Somalia, Kenya and Sudan. I believe either stopping the rivers all together at the Ethiopian border, or at least dropping those portions of the rivers into the background at a lower opacity. Kenya is the most confusing, I had to look at a true map of Africa to figure out the both sides of the river is Kenya, thus making it adjacent to W. SNNPR.
Couple other question I have.
North and South Somalia are not adjacent, yes? Would be kinda odd if this is true, but if so, making E. Somali go off the map a little more, creating a larger separation between north and south, would make this clearer.
Again I ask about a explanation on the map for what bonuses the cities are in. And along those same lines, do the non-Ethiopian territories constitute a bonus of any kind? If not a explanation that they are part of no bonus should be necessary as well.
Also for consistency, if you name bodies of water, ie, the Blue Nile, you should name them all, or none. Just seems odd to see "Blue Nile" but not Awash River, Red Sea, or Lake T'ana.
brhiba wrote:Here are my graphic notes - all constructive, take or leave:
- Saw the star in the 'O' mentioned... I like it. The blue seems too strong for the overall pallette though.
- Nice title font... BUT the 'E' is hard to read because of where the "arms" fall against the tri-color background. You could make the middle tier of the background slightly wider, or a nudge up or down should fix - I know it's vert centered, but the clash is no good.
- "Bonuses" is similarly hard to read... maybe try all caps?
- The patterned border on the sides has the right feel, but it's too loud... I'd suggest dimming it by 20%-40%.
- The Lion of Judah in the corners is a nice touch, and it's the perfect symbol. But the small image you have is hard to "read" as such. Maybe go for a version that's more stylized and easier to recognize at that size.
- The font for the surrounding territories is too light. I know they're not part of Ethiopia, but they are part of the game map, so they should be more immediately visible.
cairnswk wrote:brhiba wrote:Here are my graphic notes - all constructive, take or leave:
- Saw the star in the 'O' mentioned... I like it. The blue seems too strong for the overall pallette though.
- Nice title font... BUT the 'E' is hard to read because of where the "arms" fall against the tri-color background. You could make the middle tier of the background slightly wider, or a nudge up or down should fix - I know it's vert centered, but the clash is no good.
- "Bonuses" is similarly hard to read... maybe try all caps?
- The patterned border on the sides has the right feel, but it's too loud... I'd suggest dimming it by 20%-40%.
- The Lion of Judah in the corners is a nice touch, and it's the perfect symbol. But the small image you have is hard to "read" as such. Maybe go for a version that's more stylized and easier to recognize at that size.
- The font for the surrounding territories is too light. I know they're not part of Ethiopia, but they are part of the game map, so they should be more immediately visible.
I fixed these issues in this new Version 10...i hope to everyone's satisifaction.
RedBaron0 wrote:While I see that you have put a disclaimer in the legend that DD doesn't border Central Oromai, I believe it will absolutely cause confusion. Having a territory touching a border, but not actually border it? Your best bet is going to be rearranging stuff in there so DD is completely within N. Somali. Having the territory name, or even the army circle run over a little isn't going to cause the confusion having the little DD box on the border will.
isaiah40 wrote:I'm going to have to agree with RB0, can you have it the same as Harari? I believe you have the room there to do it.
RedBaron0 wrote:Seems the production of this map has stalled... likely due to rl schooling priorities we all know cairns is up to. This map for the time being will be considered to be on vacation for maximum of 6 months. Should the mapmaker wish to continue this project please contact any CA, once an update is made. Gameplay standards may change between now and when (or if) ever the the project it picked back up. Further gameplay scrutiny may be required upon return to the Foundry, at the discretion of the CA's.
Aleena wrote:(Side Note)
I like Labyrinth which is a map in Beta...
At one time it had cups scattered around the map which was called FOOD and if gathered gained a bonus..
(Idea for this map)
You should do something like that as well - add a scatter bonus - maybe toss different types of foods all over the map and if the player gathers all the food - or maybe just gains any food - then they get a bonus of some type..
Just an idea... .
cairnswk wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:While I see that you have put a disclaimer in the legend that DD doesn't border Central Oromai, I believe it will absolutely cause confusion. Having a territory touching a border, but not actually border it? Your best bet is going to be rearranging stuff in there so DD is completely within N. Somali. Having the territory name, or even the army circle run over a little isn't going to cause the confusion having the little DD box on the border will.isaiah40 wrote:I'm going to have to agree with RB0, can you have it the same as Harari? I believe you have the room there to do it.
I beieive this has been fixed.RedBaron0 wrote:Seems the production of this map has stalled... likely due to rl schooling priorities we all know cairns is up to. This map for the time being will be considered to be on vacation for maximum of 6 months. Should the mapmaker wish to continue this project please contact any CA, once an update is made. Gameplay standards may change between now and when (or if) ever the the project it picked back up. Further gameplay scrutiny may be required upon return to the Foundry, at the discretion of the CA's.
An update was done 25 June, yet the map still sits in the Recycling box!
koontz1973 wrote:Agreed with cairns, I remember that talk about the scatter bonus, all it added was confusion and delay (too much Thomas the tank engine). This to go back cairns?
koontz1973 wrote:Here you go cairns.
Bruceswar wrote:Where are the bonus values?
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