Wait, how do you know that NoS is a gift giver? Do you know something we don't?betiko wrote:well, it's true that you could stop him from giving a gift, but not sure it will help us much, you can still be a mafia roleblocker.superkeener wrote:How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.
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- anamainiacks
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
he softclaimed it day 1.anamainiacks wrote:Wait, how do you know that NoS is a gift giver? Do you know something we don't?betiko wrote:well, it's true that you could stop him from giving a gift, but not sure it will help us much, you can still be a mafia roleblocker.superkeener wrote:How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.

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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
That's all good and makes sense but I would still like to hear from NoS directly on this though.betiko wrote:he softclaimed it day 1.anamainiacks wrote:Wait, how do you know that NoS is a gift giver? Do you know something we don't?betiko wrote:well, it's true that you could stop him from giving a gift, but not sure it will help us much, you can still be a mafia roleblocker.superkeener wrote:How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
It would be in the mafia's best interest to assure themselves a roleblock of the sort... The last thing they'd want is someone trading in their gifts, causing another cop to appear alongside Nendreel. And all this conveniently under the guise of proving oneself a townie roleblocker. Vote superkeener.superkeener wrote:That's all good and makes sense but I would still like to hear from NoS directly on this though.betiko wrote:he softclaimed it day 1.anamainiacks wrote:Wait, how do you know that NoS is a gift giver? Do you know something we don't?betiko wrote:well, it's true that you could stop him from giving a gift, but not sure it will help us much, you can still be a mafia roleblocker.superkeener wrote:How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Since you are having so much difficulty trusting my roleclaim, I am finding it VERY difficult to see you as a townie... and therefore...anamainiacks wrote:It would be in the mafia's best interest to assure themselves a roleblock of the sort... The last thing they'd want is someone trading in their gifts, causing another cop to appear alongside Nendreel. And all this conveniently under the guise of proving oneself a townie roleblocker. Vote superkeener.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Just announce it to the entire mafia while you are at it? Unless you are joking? I never caught the soft claimbetiko wrote:he softclaimed it day 1.anamainiacks wrote:Wait, how do you know that NoS is a gift giver? Do you know something we don't?betiko wrote:well, it's true that you could stop him from giving a gift, but not sure it will help us much, you can still be a mafia roleblocker.superkeener wrote:How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.
Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
don't worry, mafia did otherwise jonty wouldn't be dead right now.MoB Deadly wrote:Just announce it to the entire mafia while you are at it? Unless you are joking? I never caught the soft claimbetiko wrote:he softclaimed it day 1.anamainiacks wrote:Wait, how do you know that NoS is a gift giver? Do you know something we don't?betiko wrote:well, it's true that you could stop him from giving a gift, but not sure it will help us much, you can still be a mafia roleblocker.superkeener wrote:How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.
jonty125 wrote:No.NoSurvivors wrote: Ummm isn't everyone a gifter? *cough* slip *cough*

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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Looks like I have a tough time differentiating soft claims and jokes.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
So much difficulty? I was cautiously receptive to your claim earlier on, and was believing you more and more, till you posted that earlier comment.superkeener wrote:Since you are having so much difficulty trusting my roleclaim, I am finding it VERY difficult to see you as a townie... and therefore...anamainiacks wrote:It would be in the mafia's best interest to assure themselves a roleblock of the sort... The last thing they'd want is someone trading in their gifts, causing another cop to appear alongside Nendreel. And all this conveniently under the guise of proving oneself a townie roleblocker. Vote superkeener.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Me too, looks more like a joke instead of a soft claim imo.MoB Deadly wrote:Looks like I have a tough time differentiating soft claims and jokes.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Well. It isn't in our best interest to get a direct answer about it. We don't want the mafia to know who the gifter is.superkeener wrote:Me too, looks more like a joke instead of a soft claim imo.MoB Deadly wrote:Looks like I have a tough time differentiating soft claims and jokes.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
"Since you don't believe me, you must be scum." is awful logic, and your vote is purely OMGUS.superkeener wrote:Since you are having so much difficulty trusting my roleclaim, I am finding it VERY difficult to see you as a townie... and therefore...anamainiacks wrote:It would be in the mafia's best interest to assure themselves a roleblock of the sort... The last thing they'd want is someone trading in their gifts, causing another cop to appear alongside Nendreel. And all this conveniently under the guise of proving oneself a townie roleblocker. Vote superkeener.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
ok. you are probably right. I can't win for losing.Kanin Usagi wrote:"Since you don't believe me, you must be scum." is awful logic, and your vote is purely OMGUS.superkeener wrote:Since you are having so much difficulty trusting my roleclaim, I am finding it VERY difficult to see you as a townie... and therefore...anamainiacks wrote:It would be in the mafia's best interest to assure themselves a roleblock of the sort... The last thing they'd want is someone trading in their gifts, causing another cop to appear alongside Nendreel. And all this conveniently under the guise of proving oneself a townie roleblocker. Vote superkeener.
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Could we get a vote count?
Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
dude....MoB Deadly wrote:Well. It isn't in our best interest to get a direct answer about it. We don't want the mafia to know who the gifter is.superkeener wrote:Me too, looks more like a joke instead of a soft claim imo.MoB Deadly wrote:Looks like I have a tough time differentiating soft claims and jokes.

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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Because you are 100% sure. Because you are never wrong. Because there are never any twists in mafia.betiko wrote:dude....MoB Deadly wrote:Well. It isn't in our best interest to get a direct answer about it. We don't want the mafia to know who the gifter is.superkeener wrote:Me too, looks more like a joke instead of a soft claim imo.MoB Deadly wrote:Looks like I have a tough time differentiating soft claims and jokes.
I just dont want NS to come in here and give any extra information away when he doesnt have to...
I dont care how obvious or how many times he softclaimed. Softclaim is not equal to hardclaim.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
And by the way. PCM said after Day 1 that the player with the most votes gets lynched at the end of deadline, even if there is no majority. For that reason, I believe the Misers claim, and I have a lot of small doubts in superkeeners claim. So I would rather see him lynched rather than one of the misers.
Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
use your own advice is all I can say.MoB Deadly wrote:Because you are 100% sure. Because you are never wrong. Because there are never any twists in mafia.betiko wrote:dude....MoB Deadly wrote:Well. It isn't in our best interest to get a direct answer about it. We don't want the mafia to know who the gifter is.superkeener wrote:Me too, looks more like a joke instead of a soft claim imo.MoB Deadly wrote:Looks like I have a tough time differentiating soft claims and jokes.
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I just dont want NS to come in here and give any extra information away when he doesnt have to...![]()
I dont care how obvious or how many times he softclaimed. Softclaim is not equal to hardclaim.

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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
I must say that I agree with MoB here. I can softclaim whatever I want theoretically to serve my own purposes, but until I hardclaim my role is a mystery to everyone else. Because if a softclaim was equal to a hardclaim then scum would use it all the time. It would take the risk out of claiming an existing role for them.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Flip-flopping on the No Lynch, a staggered claim, a role that could be either mafia or town, claiming to RB someone who wouldn't be able to verify it, and now OMGUS voting.
I had thought we could solve this with an investigation, but even giving a pass on some of these as rookie mistakes still leaves too many issues.
vote SuperKeener
spiesr and soundman don't seem to be an immediate threat, so we can probably leave them for another day.
I had thought we could solve this with an investigation, but even giving a pass on some of these as rookie mistakes still leaves too many issues.
vote SuperKeener
spiesr and soundman don't seem to be an immediate threat, so we can probably leave them for another day.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
I want a VC as well. The OMGUS doesn't sit well with me, and I'm willing to vote him, but i want the VC first.Kanin Usagi wrote:"Since you don't believe me, you must be scum." is awful logic, and your vote is purely OMGUS.superkeener wrote:Since you are having so much difficulty trusting my roleclaim, I am finding it VERY difficult to see you as a townie... and therefore...anamainiacks wrote:It would be in the mafia's best interest to assure themselves a roleblock of the sort... The last thing they'd want is someone trading in their gifts, causing another cop to appear alongside Nendreel. And all this conveniently under the guise of proving oneself a townie roleblocker. Vote superkeener.
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Could we get a vote count?
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
I have no good reason why you should not. I can't prove im town, but I have proof you might not be. What proof do you have on me to tell me that I am scum? I said name someone and tell me why. You have done 50% of that. Well done, good reading skills.superkeener wrote:How about I block you NoSurvivors, unless you give me a good reason why I should not. Then you can confirm it to the town the following day.
Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Here is my attempt at an unofficial vote count. With 15 alive I believe 8 are required for a lynch.
Spiesr - 2 (Little Witt, soundman)
Soundman - 2 (IB, spiesr)
superkeener - 4 (MoB Deadly, NoSurvivors, anamainiacks, Nendreel)
MoB Deadly - 1 (thechuck51)
anamainiacks - 1 (superkeener)
- pancakemix
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Vote Count
Spiesr - 1 (soundman)
Soundman - 2 (IB, spiesr)
superkeener - 5 (mob, NoS, animaniacks, nendreel, Kanin)
MoB - 1 (thechuck)
As it stands Keener will be lynched at deadline (Feb 7). It takes 8 to lynch.
Spiesr - 1 (soundman)
Soundman - 2 (IB, spiesr)
superkeener - 5 (mob, NoS, animaniacks, nendreel, Kanin)
MoB - 1 (thechuck)
As it stands Keener will be lynched at deadline (Feb 7). It takes 8 to lynch.
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Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Unvote Might as well take this vote off
Re: [Official] R/B Holiday Mafia - Day 2 [15/16] Run Run Rud
Pancakemix, your count has superkeener and chuck having two votes and you seem to have missed rishaed's unvote on page 26. (To be fair the green doesn't stand out as much.)
Do you have anything to contribute while you are dropping in?Little Witt wrote:Unvote Might as well take this vote off
