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Imagine Zidane had scored that header that Buffon stopped in 2006...betiko wrote:seriously.... how the hell could c.ronaldo win the ballon d'or this season??? would be completely unjustfied. He won the liga, big deal! portugal did shit during the eurocup!!
nietsche. dude don't stab my heart lol! that video with that sad music is too hard to watch! Just remembering the awesome team we had from 98 to 06 and the spoiled brats we have today.... we even lost vs mexico in the past world cup!!
But France has a good team again don't they?betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line...
I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line...
I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.betiko wrote:who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em
basically for europe you have 9 groups, 1sts are qualified and the 8 best 2nds go to playoffs home and away and 4 teams qualify.nietzsche wrote:But France has a good team again don't they?betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line...
I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
How many 2nd places qualify?
nietzsche wrote:betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line...
I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.
There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.
In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.
It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.
Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.
The system is bullshit. It fosters mediocity. There have been some variants in the last years but basically we have 2 tournaments per year, in each teams play each other in one stadium only, and the first 8 (at some point the first 10) play each other in quaterfinals, home and away. You could have a team winning all his games in the regular season and then have a bad afternoon and end up eliminated. And for this same reason we have low quality games. At some point it was 4 groups and the first 2 of each group and the 2 best 3rds qualified.betiko wrote:nietzsche wrote:betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line...
I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.
There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.
In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.
It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.
Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.
I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.
of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!!
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?
ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!
I was making fun of this guy!sempaispellcheck wrote:No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.betiko wrote:who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em
nietzsche wrote:The system is bullshit. It fosters mediocity. There have been some variants in the last years but basically we have 2 tournaments per year, in each teams play each other in one stadium only, and the first 8 (at some point the first 10) play each other in quaterfinals, home and away. You could have a team winning all his games in the regular season and then have a bad afternoon and end up eliminated. And for this same reason we have low quality games. At some point it was 4 groups and the first 2 of each group and the 2 best 3rds qualified.betiko wrote:nietzsche wrote:betiko wrote:tell me about it... Or simply if materazzi didn't score the equalizer in the first place, then said something to zidane about his 'ma minutes after the header of your video. We dominated the spaghetti eaters all game. Then my beloved Trezeguet failed in the penalty shootouts with the ball bouncing straight on the line...
I wonder if france will qualify for the next WC being in the same group as Spain... tough shit!
I think Zidane legacy is great but imagine if he had scored that header? Basically he came out of the retire in the national team to make France almost win another World Cup.
There's a similar story in Mexican Football, there's this player, Cuahtemoc Blanco who is the most representative player in the history of America FC, my team. He didn't win much with America though, only one title, but he was the greatest. Total idol. After the injury the butcher from Trinidad y Tobago gave him, he lost much speed but gained a lot of timing. Due to the injury he came back to play in Mexico for America.
In his last season with America, because of his age and he would continue to play in the MLS, he took the team to the final. He scored the equalizer with a tremendous free kick, it was so great the moment that the narrators of the rival TV station couldn't stop licking his balls, and he later gave Cabanas a pass to score the winning goal, but he missed. Later the same Cabanas was fouled in the area in a clear penalty the referee didn't want to give. They finally lost the game.
It was the final game of Cuauhtemoc with America, people cried. I cried and drank a bottle of whisky by myself.
Zidane should've scored that goal.
Cuauhtemoc should've retired winning that title.
Ronaldo should've scored that goal when he dribled like 5 in the area and the ball hit the post.
I think the headbut and the way we lost the final is now part of the legacy. Zidane was god, he proved he was only human. had he made that header, he would be considered without a doubt the best french player of all times a top 5 of all times; but today both of these statements can be argued.
of course I remember Blanco, mostly because of his frog jumps with the ball, the guy invented something!!!
hey how does the mexican championship go, you guys have some groups and playoffs like americans would do, it's not a championship right?
ps: is cuhatemoc an aztec name??? never heard of other mexicans with aztec names!
The gold mine of the owners of the clubs still is the national team, but the last couple of years they've been trying to make changes in the league because people stopped watching. I myself stopped too 2-3 years ago. With Fox, ESPN and another local channel broadcasting games of Europe, the choice is simple.
And yes, Cuauhtemoc is an aztec name. There are a few people with those type of names.
I'm fully aware my man Spurs are my favorite team and they will run Defoe and Adebayor together instead of another midfielder.betiko wrote:I was making fun of this guy!sempaispellcheck wrote:No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.betiko wrote:who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em
By the way.... Adebayor is a striker and dempsey an attacking midfielder.
by the way... arsenal won 7-3 tonight vs newcastle, wow!
Clint Dempsey is one of the most creative players as far as creating chances goes, he is kind of unappreciated.betiko wrote:I was making fun of this guy!sempaispellcheck wrote:No, CLINT Dempsey. The best American footballer not named Donovan or Howard.betiko wrote:who, patrick dempsey? is he still on that show?CBlake wrote:Spurs are ghey they won't play my man clark more instead they add Adebayor in F' em
By the way.... Adebayor is a striker and dempsey an attacking midfielder.
by the way... arsenal won 7-3 tonight vs newcastle, wow!
Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.betiko wrote:
so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?
I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.nietzsche wrote:Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.betiko wrote:
so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?
Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.betiko wrote:I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.nietzsche wrote:Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.betiko wrote:
so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?
Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.
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you mean derbys! you are talking as if half of the games were derbys... but yeah I get your point, although you could still have groups done by geographic proximity for first stage then when you advance you can play any american nation..GreecePwns wrote:Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.betiko wrote:I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.nietzsche wrote:Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.betiko wrote:
so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?
Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.
European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.
As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).
I think they should merge the Copa America and Golden Cup.. it's a tournament hosted by one nation once every 4 years.. This way, South America nations would have qualifiers to reach this.. Consequently, they should split their world cup qualifiers into 2 groups instead of shitty 10 teams round robin which negatively affected the performance and levels of South America nations.betiko wrote:you mean derbys! you are talking as if half of the games were derbys... but yeah I get your point, although you could still have groups done by geographic proximity for first stage then when you advance you can play any american nation..GreecePwns wrote:Can you imagine the crazy lengths for travel that would involve? Let's say a Canadian club is in the same group as an Argentinian club in some hypothetical "Champions League." Either team having to travel that far midweek and then back to play a league game would be exhausted.betiko wrote:I think they should unite the conmebol and concacaf anyways. the concacaf is just about mexico and the US, all the rest is bellow shit. For the world cup qualifiers I think the group is too long for the conmebol, every country plays one another twice.nietzsche wrote:Well yes, but MLS teams are not such a big challenge. Mexico also plays as a guest in Copa Libertadores, which is the best tournament of the continent, but CONCACAF make the Mexican league to send not the best teams but the second best, because they want the best teams to play their shitty tournament. Nevertheless Mexico has been close to win the tournament despite having to deal with ridiculous rules like the one that says that if a Mexican team is in the final, no matter the position the final game must be in South America, or the fact that if both Mexican teams are in semifinals they have to face each other.betiko wrote:
so are you telling me that in mexico half of the teams in first division play just 1 game vs all the other teams then they are done for the season? lol.
But mexican clubs win every year the north american champion's league and kick the but of mls teams right?
They should just do a huge panamerican confedereation with more and smaller groups. This would improve the level of mexico and the US. I do think that both are quite underrated for being part of such a weak confederation with no opponents.
It does feel right to have mexican teams in the libertadores, for example. why not mls as well?
Anyway, another ridiculous thing is that the oceaninan cofederation still exists while the only worthy team, australia, is now attached to the asian federation. Why don't they just merge both? a confederation for NZ and a few ridiculously small islands, really?? europe- africa- asia+pacific- americas would do it.
European teams don't have to deal with traveling so much, while two clubs in Europe could be a ten or twenty minute drive from one another in America clubs are very widely spread out throughout the country. Imagine a big European club to travel all over Europe for a full 34 game season, and then imagine that teams in Europe would occasionally have to fly to South Africa midweek to play a Champions League game. It'd be very difficult to implement this.
As much as we'd like to see it, the two won't merge. If anything, North and Central America countries could possibly split off from the tiny Caribbean nations which hold so much voting power in FIFA and are incredibly corrupt (Jack Warner, for example).
well if you think the conmebol is shitty, for you there is just the uefa that's worth something? the libertadores is a hell of a tournament, if mexicans and americans could play it with fair chances, it would definitely make their clubs progress internationally.Nola_Lifer wrote:I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.
sad but true... South america football is no longer as decent as used to be. I'm a fan of that part of the world (football wise), but let's face it, as UEFA's unstoppable progress goes, corruption in South America just held their progress back.betiko wrote:well if you think the conmebol is shitty, for you there is just the uefa that's worth something? the libertadores is a hell of a tournament, if mexicans and americans could play it with fair chances, it would definitely make their clubs progress internationally.Nola_Lifer wrote:I don't understand what yall are trying to fix here? Putting two shitty things together doesn't make it any better. Seems like it would make it shittier.
Copa america is held every 4 years... African one still needs to be the same.. and it's much better if they held it in summer instead of mid-season.betiko wrote:well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.
oh they did change it for the copa america,but it's since an edition or 2 max right?Pirlo wrote:Copa america is held every 4 years... African one still needs to be the same.. and it's much better if they held it in summer instead of mid-season.betiko wrote:well the brazilian championship is getting each time more money.... pato signed for the corinthians today!
and by the way... the corinthians won the club's world cup a couple of weeks ago vs chelsea, so they aren't too far off.
The copa america and the african cup of nation should be held 1ce every 4 years, just like the eurocup. calendars don't have time for that shit, and making the event rare makes people and players more into it.
