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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:09 pm

Will Clan League Cup results also get taken into consideration when computing the ranking? I only ask as it too (like the Clan League) is an 'all clan' affair and in fact has more games per match-up, e.g. best-of-15 final, than previous head-to-heads that were computed from the Clan League.

Cheers again IcePack for all you do, especially given circumstances in RL. Hope everything resolved itself in that respect and that your missus is well.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:22 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Will Clan League Cup results also get taken into consideration when computing the ranking? I only ask as it too (like the Clan League) is an 'all clan' affair and in fact has more games per match-up, e.g. best-of-15 final, than previous head-to-heads that were computed from the Clan League.

Cheers again IcePack for all you do, especially given circumstances in RL. Hope everything resolved itself in that respect and that your missus is well.


Are you refering to things like Vase, Cup, Trophy and what not? I'm pretty sure those can / would be included, I don't think they've been moved to completed yet but I can look into it. I'm guessing they dont have dates on them again like CL4, and there were some scoring that wasn't correct from what I've seen with scores not finalized....Kind of a pain, but I'll get them.

Someone who participated want to update me on the status, it would be appreciated.

And not a problem, like I said i do enjoy it. RL is a bit of a bugger, but this to shall pass. The tests are all done, surgery is early Nov so for those first two weeks in Nov (best case scenario) i wont be around much. Between now and then, its hit or miss but Illl be around enough to be doing this kinda thing.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby TheCrown on Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:10 pm

CL4 Vase is over... TNC beat 1RFG
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:16 pm

TheCrown wrote:CL4 Vase is over... TNC beat 1RFG


That can't be right :-s :twisted:
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby kuma32478 on Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:29 pm

How has this been updated 10/15? That date hasn't come yet. I feel like I am peering into the future.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:32 pm

kuma32478 wrote:How has this been updated 10/15? That date hasn't come yet. I feel like I am peering into the future.


It was close to the 15th and didn't appear other challenges would likely end before the 15th. It's a reasonably accurate picture of the clan world as of the 15th of Oct.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby MoB Deadly on Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:07 pm



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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby kuma32478 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:51 pm

Ice, how many wars do we need to have completed before we are included? Was it more than 1?
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:02 pm

kuma32478 wrote:Ice, how many wars do we need to have completed before we are included? Was it more than 1?


Yes it's based on weight, which can vary a little. I believe generally it's 3-4 wars.
The way F400 works, one war just doesn't reflect a clans real position. It gets more accurate with more info, so 3-4 wars (150 wright) is the minimum to get on the board.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:50 pm

If any new wars complete over the next few days, link me and I'll edit it for the 15th.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby benga on Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:33 am

will winners of competitions that are not included in ranking get x amount of points?
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:53 am

Don't know if you've got it yet, but The Clan League Trophy has finished as well. The thread isn't marked as such and there aren't updated scores, but PIG beat OTP 9-6. For some reason it lists OTP as having 7 wins, but if you click the link to the games, you can clearly see the score as being 9-6 for the Pigs.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:59 am

benga wrote:will winners of competitions that are not included in ranking get x amount of points?


Can you give an example?
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby Fewnix on Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:32 am

There are different stages of the Clan League which involve a whole lotta wins or losses. E.g.

Phase 1 Division A my clan. Spelunkers of Hell. and 5 other clans squared off

viewtopic.php?f=441&t=161499

Phase 2 Division 5 SoH and five other clans squared off

viewtopic.php?f=441&t=168085

and after a long, long journey, with tears and laughter, with wins and losses against a wide range of clans, we have now made it to the [CL4] Div 5 Championship MM vs SOH :


viewtopic.php?t=178021


The master plan for the whole CL4 Championship can be found here.

viewtopic.php?f=441&t=161519

Question: Do any of these wins and losses, for a whole lotta clans, factor into your rankings? If so, how??

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Chariot of Fire wrote:Will Clan League Cup results also get taken into consideration when computing the ranking? I only ask as it too (like the Clan League) is an 'all clan' affair and in fact has more games per match-up, e.g. best-of-15 final, than previous head-to-heads that were computed from the Clan League.

Cheers again IcePack for all you do, especially given circumstances in RL. Hope everything resolved itself in that respect and that your missus is well.


Are you refering to things like Vase, Cup, Trophy and what not? I'm pretty sure those can / would be included, I don't think they've been moved to completed yet but I can look into it. I'm guessing they dont have dates on them again like CL4, and there were some scoring that wasn't correct from what I've seen with scores not finalized....Kind of a pain, but I'll get them.

Someone who participated want to update me on the status, it would be appreciated.

And not a problem, like I said i do enjoy it. RL is a bit of a bugger, but this to shall pass. The tests are all done, surgery is early Nov so for those first two weeks in Nov (best case scenario) i wont be around much. Between now and then, its hit or miss but Illl be around enough to be doing this kinda thing.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:12 pm

Fewnix....you can see them all in the OP under 'Completed Wars Listed Below'. There's hundreds of them, all taken into account.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby benga on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:17 pm

IcePack wrote:
benga wrote:will winners of competitions that are not included in ranking get x amount of points?


Can you give an example?


Like 20 pts for winning 1v1 challenge.

That's not much and brings some respect for competition.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:19 pm

I believe phase 1 & 2 is taken into account. I'd have to check my notes about phase 3. I know the finals aren't in there cuz some haven't completed.

I also know there's a trophy league and a few others out there that someone mentioned, that I have to look into. I don't know much about it or how that one worked. I haven't heard or seen a parent thread for that one, and nobody replied to my question regarding its status (and I know DJ is busy/away) so...I'll have to look into that when I have time again. I should be able to update on / around nov the first, but then it won't be updated until dec the first again cuz I'll be away largely in november.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:21 pm

benga wrote:
IcePack wrote:
benga wrote:will winners of competitions that are not included in ranking get x amount of points?


Can you give an example?


Like 20 pts for winning 1v1 challenge.

That's not much and brings some respect for competition.


Overwhelmingly people have wanted to keep 1 vs 1 out of F400, so I have no plans to include the 1 vs 1 results or give a flat point increase.

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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:46 pm

I can give you Clan League Cup results which you could factor in:

1st Round (best-of-13)
IA 4 TOFU 9
AOC 6 KORT 7
Empire 8 ID 5
TSM 4 PACK 9

Semi Finals (best-of-13)
TOFU 8 KORT 5
Empire 5 PACK 8

Final (best-of-15)
TOFU 9 PACK 4 (still 2 games ongoing)
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:47 pm

and whichever team is in the final of the trophy, bowl, plate, vase (or whatever the other parallel comps are called) can post the same as I've done above, so it's all in one easy-to-find place.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:02 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:and whichever team is in the final of the trophy, bowl, plate, vase (or whatever the other parallel comps are called) can post the same as I've done above, so it's all in one easy-to-find place.


This would be super helpful, thanks CoF I appreciate it!
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:38 pm

IcePack wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:and whichever team is in the final of the trophy, bowl, plate, vase (or whatever the other parallel comps are called) can post the same as I've done above, so it's all in one easy-to-find place.


This would be super helpful, thanks CoF I appreciate it!
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tkr4lf wrote:Don't know if you've got it yet, but The Clan League Trophy has finished as well. The thread isn't marked as such and there aren't updated scores, but PIG beat OTP 9-6. For some reason it lists OTP as having 7 wins, but if you click the link to the games, you can clearly see the score as being 9-6 for the Pigs.



Full tourney stats:

First Round:
WAR 5-8 OTP
VDLL 4-9 TFFS
PIG 8-5 MYTH
OSA 6-7 DYN

Semi Finals:
OTP 8-5 TFFS
PIG 11-2 DYN

Finals:
PIG 9-6 OTP
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby IcePack on Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:33 pm

Thanks tkr, if all groups could do that i can guarentee it gets into the next F400 on the first.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:09 pm

Sure, no problem.

I've got some spare time, and the people in the other tournaments may not see this, so here's the stats for the Clan League Vase and Shield as well. I think that's all of them, yes?


Clan League Vase
First Round:
TNC 7-6 DBC
SOH 8-5 TLW
DB 5-8 LOTZ
1RFG 9-4 MB

Semi-Finals:
TNC 9-4 SOH
LOTZ 5-8 1RFG

Finals:
TNC 8-5 1RFG
(Much like for the Trophy, the scores show as different in the thread, but if you click on the link for the games and count them up, it's 8-5 in TNC's favor.)



Clan League Shield
First Round:
LHDD 5-7 HH
AKA 4-9 FOED
MD 7-5 GR
KOA 7-6 BoFM

Semi-Finals:
HH 3-10 FOED
MD 8-5 KOA

Final:
MD 8-7 FOED
(Oddly enough, this score was shown correctly in the thread. Not sure what it is about the Trophy and Vase that caused the scores to be shown incorrectly, but whatever.)


That should be all of them. Hope that helps.
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Re: [New] F400 Ranking [Updated 10-15-12]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:17 pm

Good for you r4lf, coz I had just started the same task :-) Thanks for saving me the bother.

IcePack...just a thought. If it alleviates your workload do you not think it would be a good idea for clans to post their final results here in this thread? Saves you a lot of hassle doing the research, plus it puts the onus on the clans themselves to ensure their result is recorded. If the winning clan is made responsible for posting the result then I'm sure it will get done (or it's their loss).

This way you get the date of the final result (which will be the date it's posted in this thread), the final score(s), and a link to the tourney thread so it may be verified.

I know if I was in your shoes this is what I'd be requesting. And let's face it....every clan knows when it has recorded a final win (whereas you usually don't). Food for thought.
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