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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Dibbun on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:23 pm

pistebasher wrote:This is a somewhat spurious report from the start..

Just because it is assassin, doesn't mean you can only attack your target. Although I have only played 5 assassin games, in both of the ones I won, I attacked my attacker as well as my target.

If I hadn't I would certainly have lost, and in order to win, it is perfectly likely that you will have to attack the person who has you as their target, since you cannot rely on their attacker doing the job for you, and of course if they did, then you would have lost anyway. It is also the only way to ensure that you are not taken out.

So basically in assassin games you will generally have to attack most of the other players not just your target.

IMO Blue's actions here are perfectly within the rules and also quite sensible.

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He's played 78 overall given my searches. You have played 10 and won 2. Presumably you would accept that he has more experience formulating a winning strategy.


and Dibbun seems to have won around 30 ish out of over 140 assassin games - which would suggest his strategy is somewhat worse... maybe try attacking your attacker as well as your target Dibbun.. it is within the rules.. and seems to work ;)


Can you do me a favor please... can you read before you post?

I have attacked my attacker, twice, in order to break their bonus because my target has refused to check his power. Read game chat, this is not part of any strategy, it is vindictive.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Terry Sore on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:30 pm

thanks mate - quite a brilliant comment - thats what I have been saying all along - as for the guy looking at the doctored map (posted in this PM) - it has been changed and manipulated to show a position that is simply not true _ i have all the terts in the South West corner of the map and I am threatning Red on three different borders - the PC kids complaining are very clever - but they are not play this game in the spirit that was intended. Look at the game map and judge this vindictive allegation for yourselves.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Dibbun on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:32 pm

Terry Sore wrote:thanks mate - quite a brilliant comment - thats what I have been saying all along - as for the guy looking at the doctored map (posted in this PM) - it has been changed and manipulated to show a position that is simply not true _ i have all the terts in the South West corner of the map and I am threatning Red on three different borders - the PC kids complaining are very clever - but they are not play this game in the spirit that was intended. Look at the game map and judge this vindictive allegation for yourselves.


The very idea that you think the map is doctored is pretty clear that you have no grasp of game mechanics... decent defense, actually, it may mitigate your punishment if the mods consider you incompetent instead of overtly sinister.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Terry Sore on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:43 pm

All I am saying to anybody following this, is print of your MAP as shown in the PM above and then print off the actuall game map to see the true position - they are quite different _ I do love this game - its just that now and then you come across a spoilt brat - lol - but I know its part of the game - as i say in most of my games - Tally Ho - and YES I am English just in case you were asking why my opponents are being so vindictive - but look who is currently the Conquer Club Champion.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Dibbun on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:45 pm

Terry Sore wrote:All I am saying to anybody following this, is print of your MAP as shown in the PM above and then print off the actuall game map to see the true position - they are quite different _ I do love this game - its just that now and then you come across a spoilt brat - lol - but I know its part of the game - as i say in most of my games - Tally Ho - and YES I am English just in case you were asking why my opponents are being so vindictive - but look who is currently the Conquer Club Champion.


Post a screenshot of your side then. I cannot see any territory I do not border, since this is a fog game. I do know what I have posted in game chat about red's power and I know what region bonuses he has. I also know that all of your troops have been expended hitting me and even if you cash you cannot check's red ability to eliminate me on his next turn.

Please stop pretending like you're using strategy or you're on the up and up...

2012-08-05 06:35:56 - Terry Sore: I told you if you kept hitting me I would help Red win - I meant it !
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby pistebasher on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:53 pm

Actually - posting that screen shot of the map earlier was a bit of a dumb move... since before you posted it, red only knew 7 of greens territories as one was hidden from them by fog...so it would have been risky to make a move not knowing all of the territories they need to take... but now they know them all.

Oh and I did read the previous posts and the game chat before I made my first post.. and the facts remain, that blue needs to reduce greens attacks on him for him to survive, and it is also up to you green to reduce red to save yourself. That would be good strategy.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Terry Sore on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:59 pm

You said you had foed me - I have not foed any players and never have - so just how are you able to read all of this - but its of little matter as its a fog game - very sorry, but I am not going to tell you what I am about to do next - now please go away and cry on the shoulders of someone who cares.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:35 pm

Going to give you a heads up here terry, I had a assassin game where I hit the player that was not my opponent once and I received a noted for it. Because my opponent won the game off of that one move.even though I was attacked first. Blue was my target I hit red once and got a noted.

I have went thru the game log from round one. Here is the breakdown in 6 rounds you have hit Green a total of 15 times,who is not your target.

you have hit red a total of 5 who is your target. I too was in the military for many years and believe I have a good grasp of strategy.

The only thing your strategy has done is make beyond a doubt sure red wins this game. Green who has you as a target has had to fight both you and red for six rounds because instead of trying to eliminate your opponent you helped kill green.

And you tell green in the chat if he kept hitting you,i.e, his target you would help red win. You have done this. Your comment and your playing have shown this above any strategy claim you may be trying to pull off at this point.

@ the troll once again you speak of something you have no Idea about,didnt bother to read your drivel,just noticed the OP thanked you lol.

At Terry thanking a non player about supporting you is like thanking a blind person for pointing out the correct way in a maze,it just doesnt compute.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Terry Sore on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:48 pm

I have already written this once - but I will repeat it for the hard of hearing and those who do not fully understand what is going on - I only care what the Mods say - you are entitled to an opinion - but it doesnt mean that its correct - I stand by what I have done (and have had done to me by others) - I am not a cheat - show me a rule that says I can not attack an opponent to stay in the game - you can't - I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN - you cant - end of story mate - sorry that you got a note from the mods - but I do not know the circumstances of your game - I am playing for points - I would never throw a game - nothing more to say to you except let the Mods decide if I have done any wrong - by the way have you bothered to read THEIR constant complaints about other players ?
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Evil Semp on Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:12 pm

OK boys and girls, moms and dads. Lets stop the nitpicking win percent or if his strategy is good or not.

I can understand both sides of this discussion. Dibs wants him to attack his own target which would make Terry weaker so Dibs can eliminate him. Terry is trying to keep Dibs from eliminating him by attacking Dibs. Terry can't eliminate his target if Dibs eliminates him. I agree with Terry on this one. He is trying to make Dibs back off some. Maybe I would have attacked Dibs as much but I see it as a viable strategy. For those of you who don't think so it is used in bigger games where someone might be down to 2 countries and you try to weaken his attacker.

I am going to mark this cleared.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Dibbun on Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:18 pm

Evil Semp wrote:OK boys and girls, moms and dads. Lets stop the nitpicking win percent or if his strategy is good or not.

I can understand both sides of this discussion. Dibs wants him to attack his own target which would make Terry weaker so Dibs can eliminate him. Terry is trying to keep Dibs from eliminating him by attacking Dibs. Terry can't eliminate his target if Dibs eliminates him. I agree with Terry on this one. He is trying to make Dibs back off some. Maybe I would have attacked Dibs as much but I see it as a viable strategy. For those of you who don't think so it is used in bigger games where someone might be down to 2 countries and you try to weaken his attacker.

I am going to mark this cleared.


See that would make sense if he had not specifically said in game chat that he was being vindictive and would help red win. Love you ES but this ruling is bullshit.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:14 pm

Evil Semp wrote:OK boys and girls, moms and dads. Lets stop the nitpicking win percent or if his strategy is good or not.

I can understand both sides of this discussion. Dibs wants him to attack his own target which would make Terry weaker so Dibs can eliminate him. Terry is trying to keep Dibs from eliminating him by attacking Dibs. Terry can't eliminate his target if Dibs eliminates him. I agree with Terry on this one. He is trying to make Dibs back off some. Maybe I would have attacked Dibs as much but I see it as a viable strategy. For those of you who don't think so it is used in bigger games where someone might be down to 2 countries and you try to weaken his attacker.

I am going to mark this cleared.


Whoa,hold the F up. I get a noted when I attacked an opponent one time in an assassin game,and this is a cleared when the player puts speciffically in the chat that he is going to make sure red wins,and in 6 rounds attacks 15 of his non targets terts.

Somebody better be shitting me here.

Is this a double standard ES?

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I got noted for this I am failing to see a difference here.

Now before you say its not,in that game red was my target,he broke my bonus,instead of blue who was his target,so when I hit red back and broke the barrier down some for blue to break out,and notified him of my position,(which is not against the rules) I got a goddamn noted. WTF. Red made a fucking report on me when he attacked me not his opponnet a walked away while I GOT NOTED. Bullshit Where the f*ck is KA
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby Barney Rubble on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:34 pm

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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Evil Semp on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:41 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:OK boys and girls, moms and dads. Lets stop the nitpicking win percent or if his strategy is good or not.

I can understand both sides of this discussion. Dibs wants him to attack his own target which would make Terry weaker so Dibs can eliminate him. Terry is trying to keep Dibs from eliminating him by attacking Dibs. Terry can't eliminate his target if Dibs eliminates him. I agree with Terry on this one. He is trying to make Dibs back off some. Maybe I would have attacked Dibs as much but I see it as a viable strategy. For those of you who don't think so it is used in bigger games where someone might be down to 2 countries and you try to weaken his attacker.

I am going to mark this cleared.


Whoa,hold the F up. I get a noted when I attacked an opponent one time in an assassin game,and this is a cleared when the player puts speciffically in the chat that he is going to make sure red wins,and in 6 rounds attacks 15 of his non targets terts.

Somebody better be shitting me here.

Is this a double standard ES?

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I got noted for this I am failing to see a difference here.

Now before you say its not,in that game red was my target,he broke my bonus,instead of blue who was his target,so when I hit red back and broke the barrier down some for blue to break out,and notified him of my position,(which is not against the rules) I got a goddamn noted. WTF. Red made a fucking report on me when he attacked me not his opponnet a walked away while I GOT NOTED. Bullshit Where the f*ck is KA


First and a very important first. This game is not over.
Second one way to slow down your assassin is to make him weaker so he has to think about staying alive.
Third and also very important he did not give himself up so red would win. He was trying to stay alive. You gave up.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby Dibbun on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:44 pm

Evil Semp wrote:
First and a very important first. This game is not over.
Second one way to slow down your assassin is to make him weaker so he has to think about staying alive.
Third and also very important he did not give himself up so red would win. He was trying to stay alive. You gave up.


The game will be over very soon.

He is not "slowing me down." That would be if he broke my bonus... instead he basically exclusively attacked me and let his target capture multiple bonuses. The game would probably already be over with red winning if I had not broken red's bonuses. Instead he is systematically trying to let red win out of revenge for me hitting him so hard.

He also took 2 of my terits the very first round, without touching red... then later was worried about red deadbeating although he took his turn before red's one missed turn.

He did give up the game, he is not trying to stay alive he is trying to kill me, read game chat and see where he's saying that he doesn't give a f*ck about the game he is hitting me, read the game log where he is only hitting me, and watch the end of the game with massive red destroying me.

Bullshit ruling.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress - Terry Sore

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:51 pm

Evil Semp wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:OK boys and girls, moms and dads. Lets stop the nitpicking win percent or if his strategy is good or not.

I can understand both sides of this discussion. Dibs wants him to attack his own target which would make Terry weaker so Dibs can eliminate him. Terry is trying to keep Dibs from eliminating him by attacking Dibs. Terry can't eliminate his target if Dibs eliminates him. I agree with Terry on this one. He is trying to make Dibs back off some. Maybe I would have attacked Dibs as much but I see it as a viable strategy. For those of you who don't think so it is used in bigger games where someone might be down to 2 countries and you try to weaken his attacker.

I am going to mark this cleared.


Whoa,hold the F up. I get a noted when I attacked an opponent one time in an assassin game,and this is a cleared when the player puts speciffically in the chat that he is going to make sure red wins,and in 6 rounds attacks 15 of his non targets terts.

Somebody better be shitting me here.

Is this a double standard ES?

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I got noted for this I am failing to see a difference here.

Now before you say its not,in that game red was my target,he broke my bonus,instead of blue who was his target,so when I hit red back and broke the barrier down some for blue to break out,and notified him of my position,(which is not against the rules) I got a goddamn noted. WTF. Red made a fucking report on me when he attacked me not his opponnet a walked away while I GOT NOTED. Bullshit Where the f*ck is KA


First and a very important first. This game is not over.
Second one way to slow down your assassin is to make him weaker so he has to think about staying alive.
Third and also very important he did not give himself up so red would win. He was trying to stay alive. You gave up.


What do you mean by I gave up,the fact that I did what I saw as needed to stay alive and make red protect me for fucking me over,is that what you mean by gave up.

The essence is ES,that in that game just like dibbun in this game I had 2 opponents when red broke my bonus instead of going for his target. and to keep from getting taken out I did what I deemed was right,and try to bring the game back to even,by trying to make red protect me. And I got noted for doing by many different topics here is considered legal. I told blue my position,which according to the rules is acceptable.

I want the noted on me removed in light of this ruling if it is going to stand.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby Dibbun on Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:28 pm

Red wins, as expected and as predicted.

Hey so any assassin game if I'm going to lose I can just swing the game any other way. Good to know that CC is fine with that. Fucking bullshit ruling.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby jgordon1111 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:26 pm

Dibbun wrote:Red wins, as expected and as predicted.

Hey so any assassin game if I'm going to lose I can just swing the game any other way. Good to know that CC is fine with that. Fucking bullshit ruling.


LOL apparently not true I got a noted,for telling my opponent where I was(which is legal)when my target chose to hit me instead of his target.

So this boils down to a double standard indeed.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby Barney Rubble on Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:27 pm

More than bullshit ruling ,
As for you Terry no one here cares how many years youve been in the Forces Bud .Playing soldier doesnt equate into knowing how to play the game ..
Actually though that kind of background may explain you attitude towards throwing a game
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby pistebasher on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:47 pm

Barney Rubble wrote:More than bullshit ruling ,
As for you Terry no one here cares how many years youve been in the Forces Bud .Playing soldier doesnt equate into knowing how to play the game ..
Actually though that kind of background may explain you attitude towards throwing a game
No open door into Bedrock for you Im afraid
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Let's just consider this post carefully, line by line.. 1. More than bullshit ruling, ....erm, only if you don't agree

2. As for you Terry no one here cares how many years youve been in the Forces Bud .Playing soldier doesnt equate into knowing how to play the game .. ok, but that applies to 'jgordon1111' also - see post

'by jgordon1111 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:35 am I too was in the military for many years and believe I have a good grasp of strategy.' .......but of course, you wouldn't want to point that out about one of your clan mates

3. Actually though that kind of background may explain you attitude towards throwing a game ...oh I guess you mean that could apply to your clan mate too... unless of course you have double standards.

4. No open door into Bedrock for you Im afraid ... well at least that line may be true

Good luck with your mob rule approach to ES and KA to get them to change the outcome. That's if you think mob rule should win.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby Dibbun on Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:54 pm

I filed an e-ticket. Jgordon I recommend you do the same.
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby jgordon1111 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:03 pm

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Barney Rubble wrote:More than bullshit ruling ,
As for you Terry no one here cares how many years youve been in the Forces Bud .Playing soldier doesnt equate into knowing how to play the game ..
Actually though that kind of background may explain you attitude towards throwing a game
No open door into Bedrock for you Im afraid
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Let's just consider this post carefully, line by line.. 1. More than bullshit ruling, ....erm, only if you don't agree

2. As for you Terry no one here cares how many years youve been in the Forces Bud .Playing soldier doesnt equate into knowing how to play the game .. ok, but that applies to 'jgordon1111' also - see post

'by jgordon1111 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:35 am I too was in the military for many years and believe I have a good grasp of strategy.' .......but of course, you wouldn't want to point that out about one of your clan mates

3. Actually though that kind of background may explain you attitude towards throwing a game ...oh I guess you mean that could apply to your clan mate too... unless of course you have double standards.

4. No open door into Bedrock for you Im afraid ... well at least that line may be true

Good luck with your mob rule approach to ES and KA to get them to change the outcome. That's if you think mob rule should win.



Very good you read all the post's,but when I got a noted for hitting my attacker who was my target and telling my location to reds target(which is ok according to the rules)that was also not noted by you either.

Its not mob rule,its give everyone the same punishment or dont punish anyone. Make it fair and equal for all,thats the whole point.

I am sorry if you somehow missed the important part of what was being said.

That is the reason KA is being asked to step up and say something here. He personally laid the noted on me,for doing less than what terry did in his game. CC as a whole need to be even in the method they hand down decisions.

and if you quote me,use the whole thing,not just the part you think best serves your purpose
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby Symmetry on Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:49 pm

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Barney Rubble wrote:More than bullshit ruling ,
As for you Terry no one here cares how many years youve been in the Forces Bud .Playing soldier doesnt equate into knowing how to play the game ..
Actually though that kind of background may explain you attitude towards throwing a game
No open door into Bedrock for you Im afraid
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Let's just consider this post carefully, line by line.. 1. More than bullshit ruling, ....erm, only if you don't agree

2. As for you Terry no one here cares how many years youve been in the Forces Bud .Playing soldier doesnt equate into knowing how to play the game .. ok, but that applies to 'jgordon1111' also - see post

'by jgordon1111 on Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:35 am I too was in the military for many years and believe I have a good grasp of strategy.' .......but of course, you wouldn't want to point that out about one of your clan mates

3. Actually though that kind of background may explain you attitude towards throwing a game ...oh I guess you mean that could apply to your clan mate too... unless of course you have double standards.

4. No open door into Bedrock for you Im afraid ... well at least that line may be true

Good luck with your mob rule approach to ES and KA to get them to change the outcome. That's if you think mob rule should win.



Very good you read all the post's,but when I got a noted for hitting my attacker who was my target and telling my location to reds target(which is ok according to the rules)that was also not noted by you either.

Its not mob rule,its give everyone the same punishment or dont punish anyone. Make it fair and equal for all,thats the whole point.

I am sorry if you somehow missed the important part of what was being said.

That is the reason KA is being asked to step up and say something here. He personally laid the noted on me,for doing less than what terry did in his game. CC as a whole need to be even in the method they hand down decisions.

and if you quote me,use the whole thing,not just the part you think best serves your purpose


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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby Barney Rubble on Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:40 pm

Hmmmm seems to me all this yapping by those who refrain from even coffing up the coin to play more than 4 games at a time should be filed under .........Errr Who gives a Fuk .......
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Re: Intentional Game Throwing in progress Terry Sore[cleare

Postby Symmetry on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:25 pm

Barney Rubble wrote:Hmmmm seems to me all this yapping by those who refrain from even coffing up the coin to play more than 4 games at a time should be filed under .........Errr Who gives a Fuk .......
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Meh- it was a bad report, and contained plenty of easily accessible facts that disproved claims against him. Aside from the fact that the game was incomplete and this was an unfair complaint designed to force a player to change tactics, what did you expect from this?

Cheap tactics, and filed under "Barney Rubble" clearly gives a f*ck.
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