F400 Ranking [Updated 07-01-12]
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- Sniper08
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
yea same here Pack went from 6th to 2nd yet it says we only went up +3Swifte wrote:should check your +/- column... even after adjusting for removing THOTA it seems we (IA) should be +1 for passing AOC?
thx gunn for keeping up with the rankings.

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
I assume Pack is only +3 because of an adjustment for the removal of THOTA, but I could be wrong. Otherwise every clan that was previously below THOTA would have shown up as +1 even if there was no change... however it doesn't seem like the adjustment worked everywhere? guess we need to hear from Gunn what the real intent was.Sniper08 wrote:yea same here Pack went from 6th to 2nd yet it says we only went up +3Swifte wrote:should check your +/- column... even after adjusting for removing THOTA it seems we (IA) should be +1 for passing AOC?
thx gunn for keeping up with the rankings.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Based on the ratings, it looks like:
- LHDD & FOED should be tied for 10th;
- BOTFM, DYN, & ID should be tied for 12th;
- LOW should be in 15th;
- GR & TFFS should be tied for 22nd;
- G1 should be in 25th; and
- AOD & TLW should be tied for 32nd

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
I still don't see KOA vs TFFS?

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
KOZ TFFS 28 23 04/08/12IcePack wrote:I still don't see KOA vs TFFS?
Wrong abbreviation, needs to be corrected to count. KOA*

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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
the 11 thru 16 rank area looks labeled wrong
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Again, thats the whole Thota thing. A line was removed, but unfortunately the results weren't auto-corrected.hotfire wrote:the 11 thru 16 rank area looks labeled wrong
See what happens when the Dispatch doesn't release it first!
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
I told you to let me know if you wanted it, Leehar. I'm not going to do it early and do a column on it if you aren't going to use it.
The +/- column rarely works right. If I go back and change something or correct something it scews the +/- so it really should be eliminated entirely. Just look at the previous month.
If the numbers are incorrect, I just deleted a whole line instead of just the cells, my mistake. I don't remove defunct clans because it would take forever. I just delete them.
The +/- column rarely works right. If I go back and change something or correct something it scews the +/- so it really should be eliminated entirely. Just look at the previous month.
If the numbers are incorrect, I just deleted a whole line instead of just the cells, my mistake. I don't remove defunct clans because it would take forever. I just delete them.

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
why the 4 way war isn't accounted for????
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
I think you have one mistake with KORT, best beat in 1 Year is 1418 TSM, and not 1351 EMP.
For me it is weird that KORT's beat TSM 35-25 lead to point loose from 1436 to 1400. but I know you do not know about how ranking works, you just put database into the scoring system frame. Did you deleted THOTA results? if you did, that may be reason. rankings works correct if all results are there, even the ones who are retired, because it affects score of clans who played vs them.
I also regret that CL4 phase 1 results counted on 1st April, not at least 1 day before. if it was included in March rankings, then the Draw for CC3 would be much more reliable on current rankings than it is now. as we did not have it included, and majority of May rankings changes are from CL4, it now happens that #1,2,3 are on the same side of draw, and #2,3 meet each other early in quarterfinals.
Thanks Gunn for keeping this updated
For me it is weird that KORT's beat TSM 35-25 lead to point loose from 1436 to 1400. but I know you do not know about how ranking works, you just put database into the scoring system frame. Did you deleted THOTA results? if you did, that may be reason. rankings works correct if all results are there, even the ones who are retired, because it affects score of clans who played vs them.
I also regret that CL4 phase 1 results counted on 1st April, not at least 1 day before. if it was included in March rankings, then the Draw for CC3 would be much more reliable on current rankings than it is now. as we did not have it included, and majority of May rankings changes are from CL4, it now happens that #1,2,3 are on the same side of draw, and #2,3 meet each other early in quarterfinals.
Thanks Gunn for keeping this updated

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
second? woot woot!!! things are tight from 2nd to 6th and kort is way ahead on first place..

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
A PM went out to all clans asking whether KORT should be handicapped or not and by how many points. The highest & lowest figures were discarded and a mean average taken of the remainder. Some felt you should be given points, the majority felt you should be docked them.Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Chariot of Fire wrote:A PM went out to all clans asking whether KORT should be handicapped or not and by how many points. The highest & lowest figures were discarded and a mean average taken of the remainder. Some felt you should be given points, the majority felt you should be docked them.Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
This is a new monthly procedure for the gratification of all participating clans.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Did you not get the memo Brucey? I imagine that many items pass your desk now as the HCD..Bruceswar wrote:Chariot of Fire wrote:A PM went out to all clans asking whether KORT should be handicapped or not and by how many points. The highest & lowest figures were discarded and a mean average taken of the remainder. Some felt you should be given points, the majority felt you should be docked them.Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
This is a new monthly procedure for the gratification of all participating clans.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
More likely because your win over thota counted more last year and because it's also passed the year mark it's weighting got halved?Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Stop being so reasonable, Leehar - I much prefer CoF's explanation.Leehar wrote:More likely because your win over thota counted more last year and because it's also passed the year mark it's weighting got halved?Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
I'm sure it still applies to the Power RankingsFoxglove wrote:Stop being so reasonable, Leehar - I much prefer CoF's explanation.Leehar wrote:More likely because your win over thota counted more last year and because it's also passed the year mark it's weighting got halved?Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Can we get this war in the standings?
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 2&t=159827
MB(22) v OSA(31) v HH(27) v TNC(28)
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 2&t=159827
MB(22) v OSA(31) v HH(27) v TNC(28)
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Benga,
I think Chemefreak warned us that it probably wouldn't be entered into the rankings.
I think Chemefreak warned us that it probably wouldn't be entered into the rankings.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
So why is then CL in the rankings?Keefie wrote:Benga,
I think Chemefreak warned us that it probably wouldn't be entered into the rankings.
