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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:52 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:Official Vote Count:

Pmchung (1) - Dazza
Soundman (1) - Haggis
MeFeDe (1) - TFO
Dazza (1) - Soundman
Haggis (2) - Victor, zimmah
TFO (1) - Nagerous
Leitz (1) - /

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch, 6 to get a new car, 4 to get a new pony

Deadline Thursday sometime whenever Fircoal wakes up


*PMC currently has lost voting power :lol: at the secret request of another player

(ok, I'm having fun with the VCs but I can assure you that if it comes down to an actual lynch it will be legal)

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:13 pm

shieldgenerator7 wrote:
crazymilkshake5 wrote:Still need a replacement?


yes! you up for it?

yes please!
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:32 pm

who am i replacing? lol
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:51 pm

crazymilkshake5 wrote:who am i replacing? lol


You will be replacing Leitz. Fircoal will send you your role PM.

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby Fircoal on Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:14 pm

A crack of thunder could be heard, and suddenly everything went dark.
"In day?" mused a confused Twilight Sparkle.
"Anything could happen," Pinkie replied.
Twilight sighed.
Anyway, an evil voice could be heard and another flash of thunder came about. Then the lights turned on and everything was ok. Except for PMC he lost his vote, and Leitz, he was replaced by some milkshake.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby nagerous on Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:49 pm

/ wrote:Bah, honestly this game doesn't look like it's going to get much further without a night phase, I say we pressure either Nag or Leitz for not picking up the prod, the later doesn't seem to have done a single thing since confirming, so vote lietz


I had a busy few days - weekends are never good for me, I will be back to posting as per normal now the week has begun again.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby TheForgivenOne on Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:02 pm

I still want to hear something of use from Victor Sullivan, and I found it a bit odd that clever defended him so quickly, even though he hasn't been posting much in the game :P
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:15 pm

COngratulations, PMC! You are the winner of the free taco!

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*Crazymilkshake would have won but he has not yet confirmed, and I as mod would not accept because I detest tacos (jk I love tacos! :D )

To answer zimmah's question: I would have put chili on it for you if you had won :P

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby / on Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:37 pm

nagerous wrote:
/ wrote:Bah, honestly this game doesn't look like it's going to get much further without a night phase, I say we pressure either Nag or Leitz for not picking up the prod, the later doesn't seem to have done a single thing since confirming, so vote lietz


I had a busy few days - weekends are never good for me, I will be back to posting as per normal now the week has begun again.

The prod went out last Wednesday, and you posted elsewhere Thursday and Friday.

eh it's only a few days, w/e, truthfully I don't care, I just wanted to point it out.
Unvote vote haggis since lietz has been replaced and the deadline is coming. Hurry up and post something!
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:39 pm

I still dont have my role... 8-[
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby pmchugh on Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:05 pm

Man I had the power of 5 men, now i have the power of none :(

Seriously tho, why would you take away the vote of one of the few players who is actually capable of using it to good effect? Plus it sounded scummy the way it happened in the scene. FOS whoever did that.

My main fos is still dazza but all you guys are so lazy/lurky there is not much I can do, even if I could vote.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby shieldgenerator7 on Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:07 pm

crazymilkshake5 wrote:I still dont have my role... 8-[


fircoal will send it to you. He gave me a list of roles but didn't tell me who got which role.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:40 pm

well, I survived finals once more. HURRAY :D

Anyway, lets get to the happy fun times here. My thoughts:

PMC: I pretty much buy your gambit. However I am slightly wary of some of your actions. It seems to me that once the heat was on you were mainly focused on surviving. For instance, not picking up on the dazza scumtell, pointing out inactives in the middle of your discussion and the speed with which you decided nag was townie all seem to suggest you were more concerned with your well-being than scum-hunting. Which, of course, is particularly weird considering you made the gambit to start with. Don't really know what to make of it.

Also, I thought this was interesting:
pmchugh wrote:MOD GIVE ME POWAH

unvote vote Nagerous- For not responding with anything of worth to prods
vote Victor- For not posting anything other than jokes
vote Dazza- For illogical voting and then refusing to explain his fos
vote Haggis- For promising contribute but not delivering.
vote Leitz- For not posting in the game.
vote zimmah- For being completely useless.

So this means you consider clever's and soundman's contributions adequate? (also, not delivering? :cry: it's still the weekend over here).

Anyway, not quite fos worthy, but seemed worth mentioning all the same.

Soundman:

Had 3 serious-ish posts, 2 of them defending PMC AFTER the threat of the bandwaggon had ended, one agreeing with PMC about zimmah being a lurker.
Doesn't necessarily imply a connection with PMC, but being quiet while the debate about PMCs tactic was ragging only to appear as a staunch supporter after the bw died down is mighty suspicious IMO. Screams like a "look I'm contributing" kind of action, without having to actually take any of the risks associated with contributing for real.
FOS Soundman

Dazza:

Don't like his play at all. He seems to be digging in his heels against PMC while ignoring all arguments and repeating "He seemed suspicious" like a mantra.
That's not good enough, address the arguments or admit you were mistaken in thinking he's suspicious.

Also, I never like the "aww shucks guys, I'm just not good at debating" defence. What does it imply, that we're supposed to treat you special and let you get away with scummy actions? No thanks.
If you're telling the truth, you don't need to be good at debating, just explain your thoughts. When you need to be good at debating is when you're fabricating lies.
I want to see what happens when some pressure is put on dazza.

vote dazza

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:37 am

I just mainly found pmc suspicious because the link he gave us to his tactic even says it was a bad play. I find it very odd that he would look up a bad tactic and decide to play it. It seems more to me that he slipped then used that tactic to cover himself.

I could be wrong though and it could just be bad play.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby pmchugh on Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:50 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:well, I survived finals once more. HURRAY :D

Anyway, lets get to the happy fun times here. My thoughts:

PMC: I pretty much buy your gambit. However I am slightly wary of some of your actions. It seems to me that once the heat was on you were mainly focused on surviving. For instance, not picking up on the dazza scumtell, pointing out inactives in the middle of your discussion and the speed with which you decided nag was townie all seem to suggest you were more concerned with your well-being than scum-hunting. Which, of course, is particularly weird considering you made the gambit to start with. Don't really know what to make of it.


The Dazza bit is probably not too unfair, I did miss it, I can explain not picking up on it the first time as meta against nag but I really should have picked up on it after I dropped the nag case. I was at the time interested in picking up tells from those who were pressuring me, because I honestly think a good townie would have in that situation until they got answers while scum may continue once I had explained myself. Sometimes town hunting is easier than scum hunting and just as valuable, especially with so few posts made. Also the bit about me pointing out the inactives runs contrary to me having stopped scum hunting, I wanted peoples opinion on things and the only thing to really comment on was me. I was not letting people go quiet while inviting people to provide opinions on me. I don't see how that is scummy or overly protective of myself.

Also, I thought this was interesting:
pmchugh wrote:MOD GIVE ME POWAH

unvote vote Nagerous- For not responding with anything of worth to prods
vote Victor- For not posting anything other than jokes
vote Dazza- For illogical voting and then refusing to explain his fos
vote Haggis- For promising contribute but not delivering.
vote Leitz- For not posting in the game.
vote zimmah- For being completely useless.

So this means you consider clever's and soundman's contributions adequate? (also, not delivering? :cry: it's still the weekend over here).


> Voted for 6 people
> Didn't vote enough

Soundman had at the very least provided one opinion on something, granted it wasn't much but it was certainly better than the likes of zimmah and sully. Clever I just missed amongst the crowd.


Soundman:

Had 3 serious-ish posts, 2 of them defending PMC AFTER the threat of the bandwaggon had ended, one agreeing with PMC about zimmah being a lurker.
Doesn't necessarily imply a connection with PMC, but being quiet while the debate about PMCs tactic was ragging only to appear as a staunch supporter after the bw died down is mighty suspicious IMO. Screams like a "look I'm contributing" kind of action, without having to actually take any of the risks associated with contributing for real.
FOS Soundman


Makes sense, I never like when people come out at the last moment to take a side. Seems like he is being over-careful.

dazza2008 wrote:I just mainly found pmc suspicious because the link he gave us to his tactic even says it was a bad play. I find it very odd that he would look up a bad tactic and decide to play it. It seems more to me that he slipped then used that tactic to cover himself.

I could be wrong though and it could just be bad play.


I already explained that I never looked up the link prior to having played the move, I only did that in retrospect. Also I don't think it is a bad play, its just a play which invites people to suspect you (after saying what you did) so as long as you are comfortable taking the heat it is a good way to kick start the game and get reads on people.

It seems like you haven't quite grasped some of my points, I just can't make my mind up on whether this is deliberate or not.

I have a couple of questions:

1. What do you think of other people apart from me and how they have played, do you have any other fos's?
2. You use past and present tense in that post so I can't quite tell, do you still suspect me? If not, then why has your opinion changed?
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:47 pm

I have read up and will respond to pmc later when my kids are asleep.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby nagerous on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:01 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:I still want to hear something of use from Victor Sullivan, and I found it a bit odd that clever defended him so quickly, even though he hasn't been posting much in the game :P


Agree with the above, I will unvote TFO as he is posting more now and Vote Victor to up the pressure a little bit
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby dazza2008 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:54 pm

pmchugh wrote:
1. What do you think of other people apart from me and how they have played, do you have any other fos's?
2. You use past and present tense in that post so I can't quite tell, do you still suspect me? If not, then why has your opinion changed?


1. I have not seen much I find mega scummy here. My FOS's would go on the inactives. I'm not always a fan of pressuring inactives but sometimes it is the only way to move on.

2. I still am a bit suspicious but I will unvote. I think I may have completely misunderstood your plan but at first it seemed odd that you chose to try out a bad(in my opinion) tactic. You have pointed out the reasons you did it and it did get a lot of chat going which is good so I suppose that it did help a bit.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby pmchugh on Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:39 pm

OK we have 4 days to scumhunt so there is plenty of time yet if people post.

Sully, Zimmah, clever and the new replacement should answer the following questions or face the wrath of my non-counting vote:

1. What do you think of me and the move I played?

2. What do you think of dazza's reaction to it and subsequent posts?

3. Who do you think has been acting suspiciously?

4. Who do you think has town told the most?

5. Rank the following four people in order of most to least town; nag, /, sheep and medefe. Provide reasons why.

6. Why have you failed to contribute anything up until this point?
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby / on Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:08 pm

Well, haggis posted, even if it was rather last minute. I'll unvote.
I honestly approve of the fact you narrowed your post to a few suspects, rather than the usual "this is why everyone in the game is scummy" post, which can be distancing and implicating without saying much.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby TheForgivenOne on Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:40 pm

nagerous wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:I still want to hear something of use from Victor Sullivan, and I found it a bit odd that clever defended him so quickly, even though he hasn't been posting much in the game :P


Agree with the above, I will unvote TFO as he is posting more now and Vote Victor to up the pressure a little bit


Can I go back to lurking then? :P No? Damn.

The more I think about it, the odder I find the fact that clever came in so quickly to defend Victor.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby zimmah on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:44 am

pmchugh wrote:OK we have 4 days to scumhunt so there is plenty of time yet if people post.

Sully, Zimmah, clever and the new replacement should answer the following questions or face the wrath of my non-counting vote:

1. What do you think of me and the move I played?

2. What do you think of dazza's reaction to it and subsequent posts?

3. Who do you think has been acting suspiciously?

4. Who do you think has town told the most?

5. Rank the following four people in order of most to least town; nag, /, sheep and medefe. Provide reasons why.

6. Why have you failed to contribute anything up until this point?



you really want to do a rollcall this early in?
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby zimmah on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:00 am

pmchugh wrote:OK we have 4 days to scumhunt so there is plenty of time yet if people post.

Sully, Zimmah, clever and the new replacement should answer the following questions or face the wrath of my non-counting vote:

1. What do you think of me and the move I played?

it's a weird move especially this early in the game, but your activity is so high that if you keep this up as a mafia, you'd most likely slip somewhere, that doesn't mean you get a free pass though, especially if you survive multiple nights, as overly active people tend to be popular mafia targets. it wouldn't be very smart for mafia to eliminate people who are mostly silent anyway, because silent people don't contribute much in the first place

2. What do you think of dazza's reaction to it and subsequent posts?

it's a logical reaction, your method is considered bad play and dazza calling you out for it does not seem overly suspicious to me.

3. Who do you think has been acting suspiciously?

no opinion, hence why i didn't fos or seriously vote anyone. In general in mafia i am not really voting much the first few days as i'm just gathering information and trying to figure out what's going on. And even if i had a suspicion, i'd probably try to collect more evidence first.

4. Who do you think has town told the most?

i don't understand the question

5. Rank the following four people in order of most to least town; nag, /, sheep and medefe. Provide reasons why.

kind of simular to #3

6. Why have you failed to contribute anything up until this point?

it's not uncommon for me to contribute more as the game progresses, i like to collect more evidence before i speak out. i also kinda don't really understand what's going on yet. maybe a night scene will bring more clues though.


i'll stil try to answer the questions tho.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby sheepofdumb on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:17 am

zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:OK we have 4 days to scumhunt so there is plenty of time yet if people post.

Sully, Zimmah, clever and the new replacement should answer the following questions or face the wrath of my non-counting vote:

1. What do you think of me and the move I played?

2. What do you think of dazza's reaction to it and subsequent posts?

3. Who do you think has been acting suspiciously?

4. Who do you think has town told the most?

5. Rank the following four people in order of most to least town; nag, /, sheep and medefe. Provide reasons why.

6. Why have you failed to contribute anything up until this point?



you really want to do a rollcall this early in?


I like him asking the more inactive people these questions. Now they can't say they can't think of anything to contribute. To answer them you have to go back, read up, and form an opinion. Doing this once or twice when activity is slow is fine. Any more and I'd be suspicious of him leading the conversation.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is MAFIA (13/13) Day 1 *START

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:38 am

zimmah wrote:
pmchugh wrote:OK we have 4 days to scumhunt so there is plenty of time yet if people post.

Sully, Zimmah, clever and the new replacement should answer the following questions or face the wrath of my non-counting vote:

1. What do you think of me and the move I played?
the move were you let a bandwagon grow on you and tried to pick scum out of it? that was retarded..why wouldnt someone jump on you for acting scum? if i wasnt busy all this week then i would have to!

2. What do you think of dazza's reaction to it and subsequent posts?
dazza reaction was merely a townie acting townie trying to find someone scum...isnt that what we are all doing
he voted for someone acting scum..is that not what town does? if town votes for un scummy players than something is wrong
3. Who do you think has been acting suspiciously?
umm i believe you have been acting the most suspiciously
4. Who do you think has town told the most?
idk what you mean here ...i believe TFG has said the most...if thats what you mean
5. Rank the following four people in order of most to least town; nag, /, sheep and medefe. Provide reasons why.
umm i wont do that cause your not in that list
6. Why have you failed to contribute anything up until this point?

i am pretty sure i have said in one game that this week would be busy for me almost ridiculously so if you wanna know why just ask and ill explain

you really want to do a rollcall this early in?
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