HP: fight for freedom. Game over. Wizards won.

[SPARTACUS1974]

read the mods posts you will see what i asked him

[everywhere116]

I haven't read the last 3 books so I have one non-game related question: Nobody can apparate in or out of Hogwortz grounds? When was this, and why?

[SPARTACUS1974]

ok to all the other wizards look at who is voting me if they try to lynch me
and look at what the mod replied in his post when i asked him if i could say what colour my role was posted in i will not say the colour as i do not wanted to be mod killed

[spiesr]

ok to all the other wizards look at who is voting me if they try to lynch me
and look at what the mod replied in his post when i asked him if i could say what colour my role was posted in i will not say the colour as i do not wanted to be mod killed

Since we are assuming that Freezie provided fake-claims (Well at least I am) then this isn't that conclusive of evidence. You could have received a fake-claim where the character name was in the town color. Your insistence that thus point should prove your innocence is somewhat suspicious...

[Bleed_Green]

Geez,, this day has been absolutely crazy... to many key roles revealed.

Saf. I am inclined to keep you alive just because no one has counter-claimed him at this point and we really need him to protect Jonty. But since he missed Freezie's post about the name colour hopefully she will let it slide and give him a warning and not mod kill him.

I am uncertain where to go here with deadline approaching on Friday they are still some players that are sitting low that I am looking forward to hearing from cause others have confirmed that they do not post often but when they post it is usually a significant post.

[Bleed_Green]

I just thought of something and I could be way out to lunch, but if Spartacus is a "commuter/animorphagus" you should be like a bus driver then?? Can we not use you to play a shell game with Saf and Jonty tonight?

*like I said I may be right out to lunch but from my reading on http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Commuter he should be able to do this, unless it is a fakeclaim

[Iron Butterfly]

I'm Molly Weasley, Town Bodyguard.

While I understand the green/black misshap (after seeing another mod succumb to it) I have one last question: Town Bodyguard? Sure about that?

I find your line of questioning interesting here. Correct me if I interpret you wrong but by you saying "sure about that?" you seem to be implying that you dont beleive him. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand why you would ask it.

. I beleive there to be more to Sparticus then just being a commuter...He can also shape change at night. A commuter can not be targeted with Night actions and can not perform any. If he is shape shifted perhaps he is not bound by the laws of his human body?

But if he is able to shape change at night I am assuming he does so for a reason and its not to play bingo at the local church or to howl at the moon. It seems to me that if his claim is true perhaps his alighnment may change at night, which would explain the questions about color?

[chapcrap]

show: Most Likely

show: Less Likely

show: Dead

[strike wolf]

unvote revote spartacus. The OMGus and role confusion are the final two nails in the coffin in my eyes.

[chapcrap]

If I was going to move someone off of the Most Likely list to less likely, Tonks would be at the top of the list.

[spiesr]

I just thought of something and I could be way out to lunch, but if Spartacus is a "commuter/animorphagus" you should be like a bus driver then?? Can we not use you to play a shell game with Saf and Jonty tonight?

*like I said I may be right out to lunch but from my reading on http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Commuter he should be able to do this, unless it is a fakeclaim

On this forum, the role "Commuter" usual means a player who can "commute" to render themselves immune to being killed that night. Generally commuters are limited by not being able to commute two nights in a row.

[strike wolf]

Also it's not animorphagus. It's Animagus for those who change into animals (not including werewolves) which Tonks could not and metamorphagus. Tonks was half-metamorphagus.

[everywhere116]

I'm Molly Weasley, Town Bodyguard.

While I understand the green/black misshap (after seeing another mod succumb to it) I have one last question: Town Bodyguard? Sure about that?

I find your line of questioning interesting here. Correct me if I interpret you wrong but by you saying "sure about that?" you seem to be implying that you dont beleive him. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand why you would ask it.

I was skeptical at first because protagonistic roles have the suffix "Wizard," not "Town". However, I was satisfied with his explanation, and since he wasn't quoting I now believe he was only using common mafia nomenclature instead of the flavor specific nomenclature.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Well, i'm glad the mod cleared up the color issue...although, if I ever modded a game, I'd give all kinds of crazy colors just to mess with people trusting in the META of the game.

What's the vote count on SPARTICUS? He is acting strange for sure. I just don't want to push the button to lynch him yet. I'm still not clear on exactly what his role/character does. SPARTICUS...you're about to hang...who cares if mafia knows what you can do. Please come out and be straightforward with your ability.

The fact that he doesn't remember saying he was a Wizard Commuter? Come on, SPARTICUS.

Anyway, I'll wait for a vote count.

[everywhere116]

By my count he's at 4 or 5. I didn't go through it with a fine-toothed comb like I normally do when I mod, though.

[Nebuchadnezer]

By my count he's at 4 or 5. I didn't go through it with a fine-toothed comb like I normally do when I mod, though.

Okay, I'm not sure what adding "pressure" will do at this point, as he's given us the information he's going to give us. So, now it seems to be a matter of will be lynch him or not?

I'd hate to get it wrong...I really want him to explain what his role does. It has me confused.

[chapcrap]

Someone asked about if anyone can disapparate in/out of Hogwarts...

First, I already said that Dumbledore could. He did so with Harry. He implied that Headmasters could...

Also, elf magic is different than wizard magic. House elves could go in and out.

[everywhere116]

Someone asked about if anyone can disapparate in/out of Hogwarts...

First, I already said that Dumbledore could. He did so with Harry. He implied that Headmasters could...

Also, elf magic is different than wizard magic. House elves could go in and out.

How come no one else could?

[strike wolf]

Someone asked about if anyone can disapparate in/out of Hogwarts...

First, I already said that Dumbledore could. He did so with Harry. He implied that Headmasters could...

Also, elf magic is different than wizard magic. House elves could go in and out.

How come no one else could?

A protection so that hostile wizards couldn't apparate in and kill people. there were a couple ways around this unfortunately.

[everywhere116]

By my count he's at 4 or 5. I didn't go through it with a fine-toothed comb like I normally do when I mod, though.

Okay, I'm not sure what adding "pressure" will do at this point, as he's given us the information he's going to give us. So, now it seems to be a matter of will be lynch him or not?

I'd hate to get it wrong...I really want him to explain what his role does. It has me confused.

The text he presented implied that as a shapeshifter, she had the normal commuter role (choosing to give yourself immunity to nightkills, can't do it consecutive nights). We were questioning why she would have this role, since she isn't a full shapeshifter.

Also his general scumminess. Lying about ever claiming that he had commuter is what did it for me.

[safariguy5]

Someone asked about if anyone can disapparate in/out of Hogwarts...

First, I already said that Dumbledore could. He did so with Harry. He implied that Headmasters could...

Also, elf magic is different than wizard magic. House elves could go in and out.

How come no one else could?

A protection so that hostile wizards couldn't apparate in and kill people. there were a couple ways around this unfortunately.

Right, which is why I'm skeptical of a commuter claim flavor fitting Tonks. There's really nothing I can remember that would make her able to run away on demand any easier than anyone else. The main backdoors into Hogwarts are the tunnels out of the castle and the Room of Requirement Vanishing Cabinet that the Death Eaters used at the end of Book 6. Those have more or less been neutralized by Book 7, which is why during the final battle, the Death Eaters apparate outside school ground, then charge in on foot.

Fastposted by everywhere.

[strike wolf]

Someone asked about if anyone can disapparate in/out of Hogwarts...

First, I already said that Dumbledore could. He did so with Harry. He implied that Headmasters could...

Also, elf magic is different than wizard magic. House elves could go in and out.

How come no one else could?

A protection so that hostile wizards couldn't apparate in and kill people. there were a couple ways around this unfortunately.

Right, which is why I'm skeptical of a commuter claim flavor fitting Tonks. There's really nothing I can remember that would make her able to run away on demand any easier than anyone else. The main backdoors into Hogwarts are the tunnels out of the castle and the Room of Requirement Vanishing Cabinet that the Death Eaters used at the end of Book 6. Those have more or less been neutralized by Book 7, which is why during the final battle, the Death Eaters apparate outside school ground, then charge in on foot.

Fastposted by everywhere.

And if there were people who knew how to use these passages it would be Sirius Black, Remus Lupin and Peter Petigrew (Death Eater). I think Snape also knew of the passages as well as Dumbledore but not sure they knew all of them.

[safariguy5]

sorry my role is like a commuter and animorphagus i can change apperance each night .
and saf that is what i was asking the mod if i could say what colour my role was wrote in and he said no it was not in the rules

And not to beat a dead horse here, an animagus is a learned ability (McGonagall, Rita Skeeter, Sirius Black) while a Metamorphmagus is a hereditary ability (Tonks). The extent of Metamorphmagus ability is not well known, but all the same, it doesn't mean Tonks can just turn into an animal and run away. Maybe disguise herself as another person, but that doesn't seem like commuter to me. Framer seems more likely, although technically just about everyone can use Polyjuice to do the same thing.

[strike wolf]

sorry my role is like a commuter and animorphagus i can change apperance each night .
and saf that is what i was asking the mod if i could say what colour my role was wrote in and he said no it was not in the rules

And not to beat a dead horse here, an animagus is a learned ability (McGonagall, Rita Skeeter, Sirius Black) while a Metamorphmagus is a hereditary ability (Tonks). The extent of Metamorphmagus ability is not well known, but all the same, it doesn't mean Tonks can just turn into an animal and run away. Maybe disguise herself as another person, but that doesn't seem like commuter to me. Framer seems more likely, although technically just about everyone can use Polyjuice to do the same thing.

Not to mention he said he was quoting from his pm when he said the commuter bit and now he says not.

[freezie]

Vote Count:

Nebuchadnezer(1): Leehar

Spartacus(5): Spiesr, safari, everywhere, strike wolf, alt

Jonty(1): Dazza

Safari(1): Chapcrap

McHammer(2): Nebuchadnezer, thehippo8




If I made any mistakes, feel free to tell me. Deadline in 3 days.