Non-VANILLA Game 3 *Game Over* 14 Winners

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:35 pm

Because I keep forgetting and don't understand much of this particular game I am going to have to withdraw.

please replace me fircoal

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:37 pm

Puff wrote:Because I keep forgetting and don't understand much of this particular game I am going to have to withdraw.

please replace me fircoal

I don't see any point in replacing someone after almost 100 pages of game.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:40 pm

Primate wrote:Also, I really don't think that missing two nights of kills is all that unlikely. We have no vanillas, so I think doc, roleblocker, unightkillable are pretty standard, and thats not counting other roles that can stop kills, like joat, untargetable, scum RB, GF protection, etc.

question why does primate keep coming after me ...... this the last post me made about me ..... why primate

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:41 pm

Where is he anyway?

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:45 pm

pancakemix wrote:Where is he anyway?

he only comes in to fos me i guess

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:55 pm

Aimless wrote: As I said, you seem to be picking the low-hanging fruits. And you're not the first person to suggest Puff is scum.

Basically, the point is this - despite your aggressive behavior, I have yet to see you make a case against anyone for which an existing case has not been made. I'm reasonably sure you're scum; my vote stands.

Alright, I'll vote Aimless for being eager to start a bandwagon on me, and for looking pretty scummy on day 2 as well.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:57 pm

So you pull another OMGUS move? I'm sorry, but your scumminess and Aimless' mad logic skills together are just too much.

Vote Aegnor.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:02 pm

pancakemix wrote:So you pull another OMGUS move? I'm sorry, but your scumminess and Aimless' mad logic skills together are just too much.

Vote Aegnor.

Alright, do what you must. I still think Aimless is scum, he tried to cover himself pretty diligently on day 2, and he acted all aggressive starting this day. Looks scummy to me, and you pancake could be his fellow scum.

As I said before, keep in mind that most player at this point are scum. I wouldn't be surprised if you two are trying to pull a quick lynch to have an overwhelming advantage at this point.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:05 pm

Impossible. If there were more mafia than town, mafia would have already won.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:07 pm

pancakemix wrote:Impossible. If there were more mafia than town, mafia would have already won.

Need I remind you that we lynched the cop on day 1, and from there on the only scum kill was jnd? (Hitman being the SK)

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:20 pm

First, SK is still considered scum.

Second, the mafia's objective is to become the majority. If that is accomplished, without any other killing roles in place, mafia win. Since that has not occurred, there are less mafia than town.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:22 pm

Maybe at this point the mafia does not outnumber the townies (otherwise they would have lynched us one by one with the majority of votes), but losing another townie will put them in a dangerous position.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:22 pm

pancakemix wrote:First, SK is still considered scum.

Second, the mafia's objective is to become the majority. If that is accomplished, without any other killing roles in place, mafia win. Since that has not occurred, there are less mafia than town.

wrong sk is not scum they are there own team by them self

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:23 pm

Aegnor wrote:Maybe at this point the mafia does not outnumber the townies (otherwise they would have lynched us one by one with the majority of votes), but losing another townie will put them in a dangerous position.

if there were more mafia the game would be over

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:24 pm

SK is still bad. It kills townies for its win condition, therefore, it is scum.

Aegnor · Post by **Aegnor** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:25 pm

red bull wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Maybe at this point the mafia does not outnumber the townies (otherwise they would have lynched us one by one with the majority of votes), but losing another townie will put them in a dangerous position.
if there were more mafia the game would be over

True, but as we have already lost a considerable amount of townies up to this point, we can't afford losing any more by jumping on bandwagons.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:28 pm

pancakemix wrote:SK is still bad. It kills townies for its win condition, therefore, it is scum.

ahh but it also can kill scum to win

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:28 pm

This game started with 24. 15 alive plus 4 zombies= 19 people remaining. +2 for scum killed = 3 dead townies. That's a considerable amount by any standard.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:31 pm

Hitman079 wrote:i'm telling you, i haven't missed a kill. for some reason the people i want to kill don't die.

everywhere116 wrote:Its still scummy. (Yes, they are considered scum)

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Hitman's post is added for context.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:31 pm

Your numbers are wrong, pancake. There are only 15 alive, including the zombies (or 11 alive, 4 zombies if you prefer stating it that way).

There were probably about 5 mafia to begin with, leaving us with 4. The SK is toast. So, 15 alive, probably 4 scum left. This gives us at least three more days to look for scum, assuming a lynch and a NK per day.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:34 pm

Zombies is faster than dead and alive, and it counts in a game where when you post can mean a lot.

I suppose I misinterpreted what that meant. It make more sense the way I put it though.

Primate · Post by **Primate** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:45 pm

Aimless wrote:Your numbers are wrong, pancake. There are only 15 alive, including the zombies (or 11 alive, 4 zombies if you prefer stating it that way).

There were probably about 5 mafia to begin with, leaving us with 4. The SK is toast. So, 15 alive, probably 4 scum left. This gives us at least three more days to look for scum, assuming a lynch and a NK per day.

Yeah. I think 5 mafia too. 6 mafia feels more balanced, but a 6 man mafia group is very powerful just by virtue of being a large mafia group, and I'm not entirely sure I'd feel comfortable including one in a game under about 28 or so.

My personal gut says we began the game with 5 mafia, an sk, and something else anti-town independent of those two. Maybe some traitors, too, idk. Something along those lines.
@Redbull: I was suspicious of you?

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:14 pm

Primate wrote:@Redbull: I was suspicious of you?

WHY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Primate · Post by **Primate** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:25 pm

That's my point. I was never suspicious of you. When I reread the game, I didn't put you in my pro-town list, but I didn't think you especially scummy, either. You were pretty much just a nonentity. I don't think I've even mentioned you yet.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:29 pm

Primate wrote:Also, I really don't think that missing two nights of kills is all that unlikely. We have no vanillas, so I think doc, roleblocker, unightkillable are pretty standard, and thats not counting other roles that can stop kills, like joat, untargetable, scum RB, GF protection, etc.

then whats this mean i and you keep saying i am scum there are other post but i dont feel like digging them up right now