TheGeneral's Pro Mafia [Town Wins!] Night actions released

[edocsil]

I've been here and reading. Just had a busy weekend so couldn't post.

First off I like to say that this wagon against Mob is a bunch of BS. Day PMs, how cool is that? I don't blame him at all for wanting to try it out. I was even going to try it but couldn't think of anything funny to say.

That said Vote Dazza. He was the third on the Mob bandwagon, unvoted and then revoted. All without a real explanation. Just following along with the others. That's scummy behavior in my book.

Also, FOS edocsil for staying on this wagon. Agentcom is new so I won't FOS him.

FOS the skimmer who can't be bothered to ready anything Mob wrote. He isn't a VT, he botched his claim more then a bit. I am willing to bet it all he isn't the cop either.

I don't skim. Ever. I read everything Mob and the rest of you wrote. Since the mod uses both "Villager" and "Vanilla Townie" I don't see anything scummy about someone using one or the other.

Everyone misses stuff, its just whether or not others notice it. Anyhow, if you make a claim it better be word for word and picture perfect. Otherwise this is going to happen.

[ghostly447]

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

[spiesr]

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

As you are a fairly new player let me start with a bit of a tip for you here. Responding to initial remarks that you seem scummy with a statement like this one you made here is a Bad idea. Making statements like "any case you make against me will be made of lies" or "those who vote for me will be scum" only makes you seem more scummy. Telling us that going after you would be a waste of time since you are town is a meaningless thing to say, because it would be true for every townie and everyone wants to be thought of as a townie. You can't just say "I am town don't vote for me," rather you have to find some way to explain why we should believe that you are town. You said that we couldn't build a case against you now becuase there is nothing there. This is either flat out wrong or a misunderstanding of how cases work. Thus far in the game you have been one of the scummiest players. Someone could very well make a case against you right now. It wouldn't be a very great case, since there simply hasn't been that much to base anything on yet. But it is Day 1, unless someone screws up big time any case today will be weak.
So, you get an FOS for that post from me...

[TheGeneral2112]

VOTE COUNT

8 alive, 5 to lynch

Zimmah
Edocsil
Agentcom
Spiesr
MoB Deadly (L-2) - edoc, agentcom, dazza2008
Ghostly447
Dazza2008 (L-4) - soundman
Soundman

[TheGeneral2112]

Deadline for day one is in 48 hours. That is the beginning of January 27th.

[zimmah]

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

so that means you are NOT a vanilla townie.

and since you're not a power either. you must be scum.

unvote vote ghostly.

[MoB Deadly]

Wow, ghostly may have just saved my ass for another day. vote ghostly

[edocsil]

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

so that means you are NOT a vanilla townie.

and since you're not a power either. you must be scum.

unvote vote ghostly.

You are lookin to deep into this, and your division is going to cost us a lynch today.

[ghostly447]

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

As you are a fairly new player let me start with a bit of a tip for you here. Responding to initial remarks that you seem scummy with a statement like this one you made here is a Bad idea. Making statements like "any case you make against me will be made of lies" or "those who vote for me will be scum" only makes you seem more scummy. Telling us that going after you would be a waste of time since you are town is a meaningless thing to say, because it would be true for every townie and everyone wants to be thought of as a townie. You can't just say "I am town don't vote for me," rather you have to find some way to explain why we should believe that you are town. You said that we couldn't build a case against you now becuase there is nothing there. This is either flat out wrong or a misunderstanding of how cases work. Thus far in the game you have been one of the scummiest players. Someone could very well make a case against you right now. It wouldn't be a very great case, since there simply hasn't been that much to base anything on yet. But it is Day 1, unless someone screws up big time any case today will be weak.
So, you get an FOS for that post from me...

Making a case that isnt there. Make a case, and I will do my best to defend, and I will be able to defend. Because I have nothing to hide.

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

so that means you are NOT a vanilla townie.

and since you're not a power either. you must be scum.

unvote vote ghostly.

Zimmah, I would not have warned you about how you were going to dismiss the Cop case if I were mafia, because I would want to wait so I could night kill them if at all possible, or I would kill you and then them so that the mafia would just have to survive lynches. Do not dig deep into this, and do not put only the parts you want in red. Because this is not a lead or a scum tell. Make a case against me, and let me defend myself.

Wow, ghostly may have just saved my ass for another day. vote ghostly

Seriously? I mean....SERIOUSLY!?! Sorry, didnt think my first try at that was up to par. This is no case to be voting me on. I will say it again. MAKE A CASE.

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

so that means you are NOT a vanilla townie.

and since you're not a power either. you must be scum.

unvote vote ghostly.

You are lookin to deep into this, and your division is going to cost us a lynch today.

WOAH. I beleive he is trying to defend me?! When you guys lynch me, take note. When I flip vanilla you will know edoc has nothing to do with anything! Or maybe he will since you are so convinced that a weak case of defending someone is a scum tell.

So, for I believe to be the 4th time in this post. MAKE A CASE BEFORE COMING AT ME. I have nothing to hide, and therefore should be able to deflect anything that you guys make against me. I am convinced of that.

[MoB Deadly]

Why did you feel the need to say "I will claim Vanilla Townie" unless you arent a VT? It seems like to me you made a scumslip. Real VTs would have said "I am a VT" I don't even see the necessity to have that sentence and the following sentence in your post unless you ARENT a VT.

[MoB Deadly]

And you were already highest on my scumdar for being entirely non-committal and not casting your vote except for joke votes

[ghostly447]

Why did you feel the need to say "I will claim Vanilla Townie" unless you arent a VT? It seems like to me you made a scumslip. Real VTs would have said "I am a VT" I don't even see the necessity to have that sentence and the following sentence in your post unless you ARENT a VT.

I said "I will claim Vanilla Townie" because its what I am and if you made a good case against me, thats still all I would claim. But seriously, just take note of the cases brought against me, because when I flip townie and you guys go on to kill more townies because you didnt take note, and you are following the mafia (or they are hopping on bandwagons) then I will be laughing.

[spiesr]

Haha. Go ahead. I am not all over the board, I dont even know of a vote I have casted besides my joke votes(s) (I have 3 games going on, hell if I know a particular vote I made unless its further than day 1!). As for me getting a case on me, go for it. The only things you will pick up are lies, and attempts at making a case of something that isnt there. Because I will claim Vanilla Townie. As if anyone would claim anything other than that besides zimmah, but if you lynch me, then make your own case on who leads the case, who follows, and everything. Because you WILL catch someone, and it wont be me.

so that means you are NOT a vanilla townie.

and since you're not a power either. you must be scum.

Zimmah, if you want to vote for Ghostly for being scummy when defending himself that is fine with me. However, making a vote based on what you did here is just stupid. You took two lines from Ghostly's post and put them together in a way that it obviously not what Ghostly meant and represents a significant break in logic.

[TheGeneral2112]

VOTE COUNT

8 alive, 5 to lynch

Zimmah
Edocsil
Agentcom
Spiesr
MoB Deadly (L-2) - edoc, agentcom, dazza2008
Ghostly447 (L-3) - zimmah, mob deadly
Dazza2008 (L-4) - soundman
Soundman

[ghostly447]

So we have me defending mob then he turns on me the second he is free to go? That is enough for me to vote him the second I clear myself. so what mob are you trying to tell me that by saying I would claim vt that is enough to convict me? Lol. I said I would claim CT because I THOUGHT it would be enough to say I am vt. But okay. I am a vt and by trying to help our doc not expose the cop when people like you try to make a case of nothing, I am cleaner than you. Now dig up some facts or I will vote you even while I am under pressure for what I feel is auspicious behavior.

[TheGeneral2112]

LEAK

FROM AGENTCOM

I'm sorry but I absolutely DO NOT like your post. I agree with edoc that you are reading too far into this. But more importantly, you have now gone after a player in this game with a REALLY weak case. This now means that mafia knows 2 people aren't cop, if they're not mafia (ghostly and MoB).

f*ck, I just got all WIFOM-y and realized maybe that is what you are trying to do. If so, you should have picked a player that has a little bit less suspicion. Unless you think that you'll be able to save ghostly in Round 2. Cuz right now it looks like some people already have him in their crosshairs for a round 2 lynch.

Considering that mafia has 2 alive players, there are 2 dead players, you've claimed, now mafia only has 5 players to choose from in their investigation tonight. If either of your accusations (MoB or ghostly) are actually not mafia, then they only have 3 or 4 that they have to choose from.

I think you need to be really careful with keeping your accusations to a minimum and only on strong cases or to place a vote on a sure lynch. Or else you'd better be ready to accuse the cop, too and hope that you don't make too good a case. This will be even tougher if the cop is a noob because they will have to defend themselves without accidentally slipping up.

I would bet that mafia will have already figured this out, but I wanted to send it by PM in case they hadn't thought about it. I wish I could get a response from this, but unless you can make the message not give away anything, don't worry about it. If this leaks, then I guess it doesn't matter if you respond.

agent

[MoB Deadly]

Good job, now everyone knows your not the cop too. Bravo.

[MoB Deadly]

I will readdress the case on ghostly later when i have more time to post

[edocsil]

Agent who was that to?

Also, no one trust that PM, it could be complete WIFOM

[spiesr]

Good job, now everyone knows your not the cop too. Bravo.

Unless he is the cop and was clever enough to write this message in a manner that would make him appear not to be...
Seems unlikely.

[MoB Deadly]

Unless you think that you'll be able to save ghostly in Round 2.
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looks like to zimmah

[agentcom]

WHAT I WROTE BEFORE MY FUCKING PM LEAKED!!!

So we have me defending mob then he turns on me the second he is free to go? That is enough for me to vote him the second I clear myself. so what mob are you trying to tell me that by saying I would claim vt that is enough to convict me? Lol. I said I would claim CT because I THOUGHT it would be enough to say I am vt. But okay. I am a vt and by trying to help our doc not expose the cop when people like you try to make a case of nothing, I am cleaner than you. Now dig up some facts or I will vote you even while I am under pressure for what I feel is auspicious behavior.

I don't find ghostly particularly suspicious. I think that we've read too far in to a new player's style of play. I don't think Ghostly has made the best points. I think that Edoc and I pointed that out earlier (in different ways).

Also, are Ghostly and I the only one who really don't like MoB's "I'll vote anybody but me" vote?

I'm heading off to class now. I'm actually enjoying keeping up with this thread. So, I'll be watching over the next couple days, but I also doubt I'll have much more to add. I've made my case and it would basically take somebody saying "I'm mafia" or Zimmah saying "MoB is cop" for me to change my vote.

AFTER

Well I guess I will have to say something. Fucking 5% chance that it leaks and it does. Edoc, who do you think it was to? :/

Well, like I said in the PM, I bet mafia had already figured it out.

Sorry guys.

Will post more later when I'm not so upset.

[spiesr]

looks like to zimmah

Yes, many things in that message seem to indicate that Zimmah was the recipient. (Being that the entire message appears to have been berating Zimmah that he makes the Cop's identity easier to guess every time he Votes for a different player...)

[agentcom]

Good job, now everyone knows your not the cop too. Bravo.

Unless he is the cop and was clever enough to write this message in a manner that would make him appear not to be...
Seems unlikely.

Thanks for the vote of confidence there Spiesr :/

[MoB Deadly]

Also, are Ghostly and I the only one who really don't like MoB's "I'll vote anybody but me" vote?

woah woah woah - He was my first real vote all game. I ALREADY had ghostly at the top of my list before he made that post. That post put me over the edge and was the deciding factor in his vote

BEFORE his post I had him at the top of my list for being all over the board and being noncommittal