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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby edocsil on Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:48 pm

TeeGee and VS link was another poorly thought out conclusion. It is incredibly common for a Mafia to "buddy" with a townie so as to provide themselves with a defense in the case that the townie dies before the scum.

You could also argue that it would be foolish to protect the watcher because the scum wouldn't target the person who the doc was obviously going to protect.

Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:57 pm

edocsil wrote:TeeGee and VS link was another poorly thought out conclusion. It is incredibly common for a Mafia to "buddy" with a townie so as to provide themselves with a defense in the case that the townie dies before the scum.

You could also argue that it would be foolish to protect the watcher because the scum wouldn't target the person who the doc was obviously going to protect.

Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.



Edoc, I COULD support you in this. Can you give us some quotes? Also, you know that we were about to lynch you, so if you are too far off base here, it will likely result in your lynch tomorrow, right? Just a fair warning that you have a lot of ground to recover as a replacement.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby edocsil on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:10 pm

TheGeneral2112 wrote:
edocsil wrote:TeeGee and VS link was another poorly thought out conclusion. It is incredibly common for a Mafia to "buddy" with a townie so as to provide themselves with a defense in the case that the townie dies before the scum.

You could also argue that it would be foolish to protect the watcher because the scum wouldn't target the person who the doc was obviously going to protect.

Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.



Edoc, I COULD support you in this. Can you give us some quotes? Also, you know that we were about to lynch you, so if you are too far off base here, it will likely result in your lynch tomorrow, right? Just a fair warning that you have a lot of ground to recover as a replacement.


I could support it, but I would have to go digging into old game records. I know I've done it as mafia, but I'm not sure in what game.

As far as my hanging goes, I am not even remotely worried about it. As I said usAir disappeared from the site altogether, there literally is not even a remote case against me. They pressure got what you wanted, a replacement. Now that you have it the pressure will go away.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:20 pm

edocsil wrote:
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edocsil wrote:TeeGee and VS link was another poorly thought out conclusion. It is incredibly common for a Mafia to "buddy" with a townie so as to provide themselves with a defense in the case that the townie dies before the scum.

You could also argue that it would be foolish to protect the watcher because the scum wouldn't target the person who the doc was obviously going to protect.

Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.



Edoc, I COULD support you in this. Can you give us some quotes? Also, you know that we were about to lynch you, so if you are too far off base here, it will likely result in your lynch tomorrow, right? Just a fair warning that you have a lot of ground to recover as a replacement.


I could support it, but I would have to go digging into old game records. I know I've done it as mafia, but I'm not sure in what game.

As far as my hanging goes, I am not even remotely worried about it. As I said usAir disappeared from the site altogether, there literally is not even a remote case against me. They pressure got what you wanted, a replacement. Now that you have it the pressure will go away.



Edoc, the pressure is NOT even REMOTELY gone. You may be at L-2, IDK, but seriously, give me some good reasons for this case. Quotes and shit. You can't get the votes off of you because you are a replacement UNLESS you make a really good case against MoB. I am open-minded, just give me something to work with here...
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [14/14] Day One

Postby soundman on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:22 pm

soundman wrote:Vote Count:

Rodion -
Zimmah -
Mob Deadly - Edocsil - (L5)
Mr. Squirrel -
Codierose -
Chapcrap -
Crazymilkshake5 -
Edocsil - codierose, General, Zimmah - (L3)
thehippo8 -
TheGeneral2112 -

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [14/14] Day One

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:23 pm

soundman wrote:
soundman wrote:Vote Count:

Rodion -
Zimmah -
Mob Deadly - Edocsil - (L5)
Mr. Squirrel -
Codierose -
Chapcrap -
Crazymilkshake5 -
Edocsil - codierose, General, Zimmah - (L3)
thehippo8 -
TheGeneral2112 -

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, Jan. 13th



Thanks. Now I can correct myself. You are at L-3, Edoc.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [14/14] Day One

Postby zimmah on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:38 pm

unvote

not sure what to do right now.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby chapcrap on Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:43 pm

edocsil wrote:Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.

I don't really think it's better left unsaid. Even if it's all WIFOM, it's good to talk about what scum might or might do because of noobs holding power roles. It let's them know how a scum might think.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby edocsil on Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:36 pm

chapcrap wrote:
edocsil wrote:Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.

I don't really think it's better left unsaid. Even if it's all WIFOM, it's good to talk about what scum might or might do because of noobs holding power roles. It let's them know how a scum might think.


But then the scum know that you know, that they know..... and so on and on it goes. That IS the definition of WIFOM.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby zimmah on Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:42 pm

edocsil wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
edocsil wrote:Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.

I don't really think it's better left unsaid. Even if it's all WIFOM, it's good to talk about what scum might or might do because of noobs holding power roles. It let's them know how a scum might think.


But then the scum know that you know, that they know..... and so on and on it goes. That IS the definition of WIFOM.


WIFOM is no excuse for allowing and/or accepting nooby mistakes and/or not being carefull. even if it's highly wifom, it's good to try to think like they do.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby codierose on Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:03 am

my vote for usair was only to get him to post now he has replacement i am happy to unvotefor now
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby edocsil on Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:21 am

zimmah wrote:
edocsil wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
edocsil wrote:Predicting a Scum's Move is all WIFOM and it is all better left unsaid.

I don't really think it's better left unsaid. Even if it's all WIFOM, it's good to talk about what scum might or might do because of noobs holding power roles. It let's them know how a scum might think.


But then the scum know that you know, that they know..... and so on and on it goes. That IS the definition of WIFOM.


WIFOM is no excuse for allowing and/or accepting nooby mistakes and/or not being carefull. even if it's highly wifom, it's good to try to think like they do.


WIFOM aside, how about my case on MoB?
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby zimmah on Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:39 pm

well, it's worth a shot.

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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby codierose on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:14 pm

edoc i do agree with what your saying about mob
So in short, I vote for MoB for being an overcautious scum who tried to hard to avoid all suspicion, and therefore has triggered my suspicions (God this sounds like WIFOM)

but you still have not given a reason to not vote for yourself even though the general has asked you a couple of times now
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby soundman on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:25 pm

soundman wrote:Vote Count:

Rodion -
Zimmah -
Mob Deadly - Edocsil, Zimmah - (L4)
Mr. Squirrel -
Codierose -
Chapcrap -
Crazymilkshake5 -
Edocsil - General - (L5)
thehippo8 -
TheGeneral2112 -

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, Jan. 13th
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby edocsil on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:51 pm

codierose wrote:edoc i do agree with what your saying about mob
So in short, I vote for MoB for being an overcautious scum who tried to hard to avoid all suspicion, and therefore has triggered my suspicions (God this sounds like WIFOM)

but you still have not given a reason to not vote for yourself even though the general has asked you a couple of times now


The General asks for what he isn't going to get. I am NEVER going to be lynched for inactivity. He is the only vote for me at the moment, so I am certainly in no need of a claim.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby edocsil on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:51 pm

soundman wrote:
soundman wrote:Vote Count:

Rodion -
Zimmah -
Mob Deadly - Edocsil, Zimmah - (L4)
Mr. Squirrel -
Codierose -
Chapcrap -
Crazymilkshake5 -
Edocsil - codierose, General - (L4)
thehippo8 -
TheGeneral2112 -

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, Jan. 13th


codierose unvoted I believe.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby soundman on Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:31 pm

edocsil wrote:
soundman wrote:Vote Count:

Rodion -
Zimmah -
Mob Deadly - Edocsil, Zimmah - (L4)
Mr. Squirrel -
Codierose -
Chapcrap -
Crazymilkshake5 -
Edocsil - General - (L5)
thehippo8 -
TheGeneral2112 -

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, Jan. 13th


codierose unvoted I believe.

Yep, missed that. Fixed.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby chapcrap on Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:09 pm

The mod edited a post...should he be mod-killed? Hmm...

Anyways, general, there is no way you can still expect edoc to claim because the person he replaced was inactive. That's ridiculous. Replacements of inactives, don't deserve to be pressured. If they replace someone that was being actively scummy, that's understandable, but this? No.

I am not really sure about MoB. Maybe if we heard from him...
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby MoB Deadly on Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:47 pm

chapcrap wrote:I am not really sure about MoB. Maybe if we heard from him...


I am here and defended myself. If you had any more questions or any other points you wanted to debate against me I am all for it. But I am getting feelings that it is just a successful squirm by someone scummy. I am probably biased though because his attention is on me :lol:
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby codierose on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:01 pm

can i ask a noob question do scum know each other from day 1 or after night 1 :oops:
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby chapcrap on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:03 pm

MoB Deadly wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I am not really sure about MoB. Maybe if we heard from him...


I am here and defended myself. If you had any more questions or any other points you wanted to debate against me I am all for it. But I am getting feelings that it is just a successful squirm by someone scummy. I am probably biased though because his attention is on me :lol:

To be honest, I don't even remember my roles during the day. When night time gets here, I go and look at the Mafia folder of my inbox and see if I have a night action... I'm in too many games. I'm gonna go check and see what I am.

I have checked and I am not a squirmy scum...or any other scum for that matter. :)
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby MoB Deadly on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:26 pm

chapcrap wrote:
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chapcrap wrote:I am not really sure about MoB. Maybe if we heard from him...


I am here and defended myself. If you had any more questions or any other points you wanted to debate against me I am all for it. But I am getting feelings that it is just a successful squirm by someone scummy. I am probably biased though because his attention is on me :lol:

To be honest, I don't even remember my roles during the day. When night time gets here, I go and look at the Mafia folder of my inbox and see if I have a night action... I'm in too many games. I'm gonna go check and see what I am.

I have checked and I am not a squirmy scum...or any other scum for that matter. :)


What I meant is that Edoc, may have successfully squirmed as scum.
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby edocsil on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:27 pm

MoB Deadly wrote:
chapcrap wrote:I am not really sure about MoB. Maybe if we heard from him...


I am here and defended myself. If you had any more questions or any other points you wanted to debate against me I am all for it. But I am getting feelings that it is just a successful squirm by someone scummy. I am probably biased though because his attention is on me :lol:


I am squirmy? :(
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Re: Soundman's First Mafia [10/14] Day Three

Postby chapcrap on Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:58 pm

MoB Deadly wrote:What I meant is that Edoc, may have successfully squirmed as scum.

Oh, I see.

That may be true. But I don't think we can really pressure him because the guy he replaced was inactive. Doesn't really fit.
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