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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby GeneralRisk on Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:47 am

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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby GoranZ on Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:35 am

blakebowling wrote:
eddie2 wrote:ok 1 post has been found from masli in game chat. on a previous occasion when i made a case a c and a mod asked me to provide some form of post game chat or forum so they can check the ip. So could masli of joined this game to get some form of post to confirm ip address before he busted the account. also you keep on bringing the police into this. have you ever worked in a coffee shop and given a police officer a free coffee. (most places do.) this is actually against there contract of work they are not allowed to accept it. but do we scream for every cop to be sacked.

I never thought I'd find an eddie2 post I completely agree with.


Are u sure? C'mon m8 you are Tech Contributor, u know that his post is full of technical mistakes(example: So could masli of joined this game to get some form of post to confirm ip address)

eddie2 wrote:ok 1 post has been found from masli in game chat.

One so far... but one is enough.

eddie2 wrote:So could masli of joined this game to get some form of post to confirm ip address before he busted the account.

This is not possible, if a user switch IP he will be automatically logged out because his session will not be valid. On top of everything Masli doesn't need confirmation of IP, he already knows it.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:27 am

MY how odd,using a for instance of a police officer robbing a bank as an example,good news we all know its illegal because there are laws against it,Bad news if most of you(see I got it right JD)are going to harp on lynching I am going to harp on SHOW ME THE RULE HE BROKE ON CC,I have read them over and over cant seem to come across it.Now so you dont go idiot,I realize it might be morally wrong but what is the standard for morales and do we punish people because of that,everyones morales are different,what keeps society in balance are the written laws.This particular one that you want blood for is not in the WRITTEN RULES of CC.Just figure if you are going to continue to harp on something I will too =D>
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby GoranZ on Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:26 am

jgordon1111 wrote:MY how odd,using a for instance of a police officer robbing a bank as an example,good news we all know its illegal because there are laws against it,Bad news if most of you(see I got it right JD)are going to harp on lynching I am going to harp on SHOW ME THE RULE HE BROKE ON CC,I have read them over and over cant seem to come across it.Now so you dont go idiot,I realize it might be morally wrong but what is the standard for morales and do we punish people because of that,everyones morales are different,what keeps society in balance are the written laws.This particular one that you want blood for is not in the WRITTEN RULES of CC.Just figure if you are going to continue to harp on something I will too =D>


He misuse his position... Its all in Unwritten Rules.

One question if you were on his place would you have done exactly like him or you would have done it differently?
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby GeneralRisk on Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:29 am

jgordon1111 wrote:MY how odd,using a for instance of a police officer robbing a bank as an example,good news we all know its illegal because there are laws against it,Bad news if most of you(see I got it right JD)are going to harp on lynching I am going to harp on SHOW ME THE RULE HE BROKE ON CC,I have read them over and over cant seem to come across it.Now so you dont go idiot,I realize it might be morally wrong but what is the standard for morales and do we punish people because of that,everyones morales are different,what keeps society in balance are the written laws.This particular one that you want blood for is not in the WRITTEN RULES of CC.Just figure if you are going to continue to harp on something I will too =D>

Here is the rule..............Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, holding players hostage, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new recruits. .....................Get it??..Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. Maybe you should ask someone with a higher IQ to explain it to you.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby ubcman64 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:48 am

Night Strike wrote: I'm pretty sure that if KA decides that Masli is being abusive, he won't mess up a second time.


so "if" he is guilty we'll just let it slide this time......is that how i read your statement?....that's setting a bad precedent for others that play outside the rules don't you think. what your saying is what a bunch of the others have posted have said will happen. "it will get swept under the rug". i could be wrong but that's how i interpret your post.

and GR is right, there is a rule......see his post above.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby Leehar on Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:17 am

Just 2 comments I'd like to comment after skimming over some of this stuff. Firstly, Goran mentioned a possibility that 29% of Masli's 2k games have been won by kicking multi's? Was he even a mh for all those games?

Then otherwise, it's all pretty much unknown how multi hunting works, but is it possible that it's easier for mh's to bust multi's if they're in games with them?

I'm not gonna comment on innocence or guilt, or really look towards either, but I think it's also worthwhile considering that Multi's are the highest penalizable offense on this site (above whatever Masli's accused off). I think it's quite possible with Masli's track record that he is one of, if not the best Multi catcher on the site (as anyone who's witnessed his successes before he even got his tools can attest), so in terms of a win/loss scenario I'm just wondering whats preferred in terms of letting multi's getting away or relatively inconsequential points looked at holistically.

This is all beyond the other defenses though of Masli likely not being behind many of the busts, and perhaps immorality versus legality in avoiding conflicts of interest where relevant.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby John Deere on Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:57 am

angola wrote:This thread is ridiculous.

It has it all. A bunch of people who don't believe in letting an investigation run its course, master dumbass who wants things to be like when he was a mod, and the pack continuing their whining about some stupid fucking medals.

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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby sensfan on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:07 pm

This is supposed to be handled internally. Until we get king achilles to make a verdict or something, we should either post USEFUL evidence for or against the Masli case, or not talk at all.

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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:12 pm

GoranZ wrote:One question if you were on his place would you have done exactly like him or you would have done it differently?


That's actually an important part of this business, and one that people are overlooking. There are only two ways Masli can change his behavior, assuming he checks for multis before the game is over: he can either not bust them at all (this is silly), or he can wait until the end of the game (and so the multi gets to abuse site privileges for longer). Alternatively, he could check everyone he plays before joining the game -- but this an onerous requirement to put on a MH, and obviously he can't do that for games he starts.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby eddie2 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:15 pm

sensfan wrote:This is supposed to be handled internally. Until we get king achilles to make a verdict or something, we should either post USEFUL evidence for or against the Masli case, or not talk at all.

Sensfan


i am off tuesday and i will post about 100 games as defense. i dont have time today to log them all but he is not playing any different as to what he was last year.he has not changed game style since becoming a mod if he had then you could say he was abusing it.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby eddie2 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:16 pm

hmsps wrote:
blakebowling wrote:
eddie2 wrote:ok 1 post has been found from masli in game chat. on a previous occasion when i made a case a c and a mod asked me to provide some form of post game chat or forum so they can check the ip. So could masli of joined this game to get some form of post to confirm ip address before he busted the account. also you keep on bringing the police into this. have you ever worked in a coffee shop and given a police officer a free coffee. (most places do.) this is actually against there contract of work they are not allowed to accept it. but do we scream for every cop to be sacked.

I never thought I'd find an eddie2 post I completely agree with.
Then i will totally disagree, i

so if a cop accepted a free coffee you would ask hinm to resign??????????????????
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:22 pm

well dang GR I missed the ole unwritten rule thing,and even in the unwritten rules there is nothing specific about joining multi accounts and taking them down especially if your not the one busting all of them,Oh and the farming thing is for new recruits as have been screamed by so many players on CC,I was one of the proponets of changing the farming rules,And I got shot down,Multi's can not be classified as new recruits because they obviously have played more than the 5 required games.So GR get a little boost to your IQ before you call me out on a non-exsisting rule,or shall I bring up the fact in your flaming in the chat during which you got medals stripped you were aware of before hand and ignored,but thats ok because you did it and there shouldn't be a penalty for breaking an unwritten rule.kinda a gross the pot calling the kettle black thing,oh I was punished so now I AM GOING TO GRIND THAT AX TO NOTHING COME HELL OR HIGH WATER. GR I was keeping our posts congenial but you decided not to,so lets go back to congenial now.No hard feelings on my behalf just speaking literal truths instead of conjecture and possibilities.Had to change something my apologies JD.GR This post is for you
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:30 pm

Goran,it's a morality issue what I would do is not relevant,Did masli do wrong is only relevant and if he did which there is nothing to say he did.When he did it there are no specific rules in place therefore did he think it was wrong.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby GeneralRisk on Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:49 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:well dang GR I missed the ole unwritten rule thing,and even in the unwritten rules there is nothing specific about joining multi accounts and taking them down especially if your not the one busting all of them,Oh and the farming thing is for new recruits as have been screamed by so many players on CC,I was one of the proponets of changing the farming rules,And I got shot down,Multi's can not be classified as new recruits because they obviously have played more than the 5 required games.So GR get a little boost to your IQ before you call me out on a non-exsisting rule,or shall I bring up the fact in your flaming in the chat during which you got medals stripped you were aware of before hand and ignored,but thats ok because you did it and there shouldn't be a penalty for breaking an unwritten rule.kinda a gross the pot calling the kettle black thing,oh I was punished so now I AM GOING TO GRIND THAT AX TO NOTHING COME HELL OR HIGH WATER. GR I was keeping our posts congenial but you decided not to,so lets go back to congenial now.No hard feelings on my behalf just speaking literal truths instead of conjecture and possibilities.Had to change something my apologies JD.GR This post is for you
Does not need to be specific because it is a gross abuse of the game............I am not accusing him of farming, although I did notice he joined some games with ?, so he may be guilty of that too...........I have never once complained about my medal getting stripped and could give a flying f*ck about a corrupt dept. denying me my medal......Finally I reiterate, seek out a more intelligent individual to explain all this to you. Merry Christmas
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby demonfork on Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:19 pm

Pretty disturbing stuff here. This makes what Blitz did look like nothing.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby GeneralRisk on Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:20 pm

demonfork wrote:Pretty disturbing stuff here. This makes what Blitz did look like nothing.

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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:28 pm

GR your Intelligence is not allowing you to see the obvious,the crime you and others are accusing him of is not defined in even the unwritten rules now here is an example you might be able to follow,farming of ? is not allowed yet other unsuspecting ranks are farmed,invited into games they have no idea what is going on by high ranked players with the sole intention of getting their points. But is not in the rules you cant do that even though it is gross abuse of the game yet it continues. Therefore if it is not clearly defined in the unwritten rules how can one be any different from the other,Now Yo sabe's ohora su cereba teines mucho dolor solo esperra un momento esta passado por que? tu soy un persona con grande pensas. =D> .Now smart ass you want it in duetsch
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby EagleofGreenErth on Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:32 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:GR your Intelligence is not allowing you to see the obvious,the crime you and others are accusing him of is not defined in even the unwritten rules now here is an example you might be able to follow,farming of ? is not allowed yet other unsuspecting ranks are farmed,invited into games they have no idea what is going on by high ranked players with the sole intention of getting their points. But is not in the rules you cant do that even though it is gross abuse of the game yet it continues. Therefore if it is not clearly defined in the unwritten rules how can one be any different from the other,Now Yo sabe's ohora su cereba teines mucho dolor solo esperra un momento esta passado por que? tu soy un persona con grande pensas. =D> .Now smart ass you want it in duetsch


Flaming him isnt really helping at all...
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:35 pm

read the previous posts you will see I asked that we remain cordial in our discussion of this.Twice he called my intelligence into question,now I am checking just how smart he really is,not flaming actually just a small test to see if he is as smart as his ego thinks he is
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby GeneralRisk on Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:38 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:GR your Intelligence is not allowing you to see the obvious,the crime you and others are accusing him of is not defined in even the unwritten rules now here is an example you might be able to follow,farming of ? is not allowed yet other unsuspecting ranks are farmed,invited into games they have no idea what is going on by high ranked players with the sole intention of getting their points. But is not in the rules you cant do that even though it is gross abuse of the game yet it continues. Therefore if it is not clearly defined in the unwritten rules how can one be any different from the other,Now Yo sabe's ohora su cereba teines mucho dolor solo esperra un momento esta passado por que? tu soy un persona con grande pensas. =D> .Now smart ass you want it in duetsch

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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:46 pm

LOL at least we both now know we each of us stand on the intelligence qoutient table. Oh that is what IQ stands for by the way.Good Fight GR you were just outmatched on this one.
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby QoH on Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:02 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:LOL at least we both now know we each of us stand on the intelligence qoutient table. Oh that is what IQ stands for by the way.Good Fight GR you were just outmatched on this one.

Luckily the IQ tests don't take into account spelling and grammar :roll:
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:16 pm

lol only on certain portions,I took my time then =D> ,when dealing with most posts I do not care to take the time. as long as it is legible and understandable I am fine with it. :D
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Re: I'd like to add to the Masli Case

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:20 pm

Now enough off topic back to masli,No blood no foul,My stance for the obvious mentioned posts
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