[ACC] The All Comers Cup - Final

[Razorvich]

Forwarded message from eddie2

ok i have read the aod gg challenge thread there are some major concerns regarding all of this.

player deadbeating a game.
ok poker club was a remade game but why here is the rule covering this.

Missed Turns in a No Spoils Game
Missed turns in no spoils will not be scrutinized or result in any penalty (it is very rare for an advantage to be gained).

and this.

Deadbeating
Deadbeating will not be considered to be a deliberate act unless evidence is provided to the contrary (e.g. evidence of the player turns being taken in other games when they could have taken place in the game in question). As with deliberate missed turns / 'time outs', the opposing team will be automatically awarded a victory for the game in question if strong evidence is proivided. .

now none of the above 2 happened. what was offered was a remake or the win. but the option should also of fallen into the missing of turns where no punishment was issued. but this was not offered.

the we come to the late issueing of games.

If deadlines are not met for creating games then the Tournament Organiser will create random games (escalating, chained, sunny) and randomly assign invites to the relevent clan members (but giving the opposition the time they would normally have been provided with - see above). Failure of clan members to accept invites at this stage (or accept then drop) will result in the game being awarded to the opposition.

now dj's excuse for not following his own rules was several clans were late in the issueing of these. at this exact moment in time the rule has not been changed. so why was the punishment not issued during the war. dj is a tourney mod and if this had of happened during a tourney the organiser would of been in trouble for inacurate details. aod have every right to be angry at djs running of this event and i feel clan directors should be looking at weather there should be medals awarded because this mtourney has not been run according to the rules.

[Teflon Kris]

Special Response for Eddie

Durr, eddie, these are rules added after round 2, in case we have a repest of the whinging we had there!



Durr, the missed-turn rule, which was there:

In spoils games, if a missed-turn or 'time out' appears to have deliberately occurred to gain an advantage, then the opposing team will be automatically awarded a victory for the game in question. In extreme circumstances, an appeal may be considered. Decisions will be at the discretion of the Tournamanet Organisers.

Durr, late games, durr, you make the point yourself. It would have been less satisfactory to impose the rule in nearly all of the first round ties and half of the second round ties. There would have been 15 pages in each tie's thread to deal with!



Durr, remake, durr - it was not offerred. The MOW's both suggested it.



Please provide evidence of how the deadbeat's missed turns were deliberate, or any other break of rules at the time, that has not already been covered time and time again in the relevent thread.

Thanks



P.S. Thanks for joining the bitch-fest eddie. A man would join it himself rather than sending a henchman.

[Agent 86]

DJ, eddie2 is currently serving a forum ban..I understand. So he had one of his friend forward his message. Still I don't think it was really his area of concern. Now back to Round 3..gl all

86

[eggrollonedolla]

No predictions yet....interesting...

[Ickyketseddie]

Probably because Half of the underdogs got through the last round!

See you in the final by the way!

[The Voice]

No predictions yet....interesting...

I wouldn't be surprised to see MM vs. FOED in the finals. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised of much of anything lately.

[QoH]

No predictions yet....interesting...

I wouldn't be surprised to see MM vs. FOED in the finals. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised of much of anything lately.

I actually would put e-money on PIGS... of course, I have a good chance of losing my e-dollars. But I think they have what it takes to upset FOED. Then again, if they beat FOED, I think they'll win it all.

[TheMissionary]

Round 4 Advancers
MM
LOW
LEG
FOED

[padsta]

my predictions

MM
LOW
BOFM
PIGS (a little biased here though )

[joe snuffy]

No predictions yet....interesting...

I wouldn't be surprised to see MM vs. FOED in the finals. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised of much of anything lately.

I actually would put e-money on PIGS... of course, I have a good chance of losing my e-dollars. But I think they have what it takes to upset FOED. Then again, if they beat FOED, I think they'll win it all.

PIGS take all. Troof. I will agree, kind sir.

[Teflon Kris]

All games for the 3rd round have now been created,

Good luck to all

[anonymus]

All games for the 3rd round have now been created,

Good luck to all

is it me who is a complete 'tard or is there no thread for our war? (or atleast no link to it)

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[Ickyketseddie]

All games for the 3rd round have now been created,

Good luck to all

is it me who is a complete 'tard or is there no thread for our war? (or atleast no link to it)

/

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1&t=156167

[Nola_Lifer]

Rules check. If a singles goes to 30 rounds then there is no winner for that game correct? So in which case someone could win the set 2-1?

[Teflon Kris]

Rules check. If a singles goes to 30 rounds then there is no winner for that game correct? So in which case someone could win the set 2-1?

Correctamundo sir - to be precise, the game is a draw if there is no result by the end of the 30th round (or 25th in team games).

[Leehar]

why not use round limits to make sure it's decided by then?

[Nola_Lifer]

why not use round limits to make sure it's decided by then?

There is round limits set on the games. I just wanted to make sure it was clear for 1v1's

[jghost7]

There are no need for game deciding round limits. It is set in the rules where the games will be called a draw if not completed by the specified round. The game may proceed on and the winner may receive points but the results only count for the challenge if it is completed prior to stated round limits.

[Leehar]

Which is complex as hell, so just institute round limits so the game is decided by that point instead of making them draws needlessly?

[nippersean]

Which is complex as hell, so just institute round limits so the game is decided by that point instead of making them draws needlessly?

Shutup Leehar - if you find the simple rules "complex as hell" collect stamps. Are you actually in this compo??

[TheMissionary]

MM defeats 1RFG

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 1&t=156034

[stahrgazer]

Which is complex as hell, so just institute round limits so the game is decided by that point instead of making them draws needlessly?

Calling a draw is actually more fair than declaring a winner, depending on the setting used in the game. For example, by 30 rounds in an escalating game with higher spoils cashes, round 31 may reverse who was winning in round 30.

Regardless, I can't see how calling a draw vs. calling a winner makes this complex.

[Teflon Kris]

Third Round Results in so far:


MM (Momento Mori) defeated GG (1st Regiment of Foot Guards: Grenadier Guards)


BoFM (Brethren of the Fat Mermaid) defeated LEG (Legion)

[Teflon Kris]

Further Result:


FOED (Fraternal Order of Exceptional Drinkers) defeated PIG (Pig Renters)

[WPBRJ]

DYNASTY locked it up today