Stool Pigeon Mafia - Game Over! Mafia Win!!! MVP- Zimmah

[zimmah]

just to clarify, with players actions i mean behavior in the forums. like what they say, and how often they post, and who/when they vote. that kind of things. basicly that's about all the information we will get besides some people who are more enlightened, but are not allowed to tell it.

the problem is pigeon also need to try to 'blend in' with the townies, but scum obviously will try to blend in as well. so even if you catch someone who's acting a little strange, it might very well be pigeon. i think we should not jump to conclusions too early for this reason.

[wildwilliam]

victor still has not returned to say anything. my vote stands.

[thehippo8]

victor still has not returned to say anything. my vote stands.

I agree ... That's why I voted for Sully. The Jens thing that I keep bleating on about was just an alternative to try and reinvigorate discussion. So, come on town ... let's get cracking!

[VioIet]

I am going to set a two week deadline.

I will send prods, and I still have my replacement sign up.

If there are not enough votes by the deadline, there will be no lynch.

Deadline: November 16

[FoxMists]

I dislike the way Hippo tends to attack anyone that gives him FOS and attempt to throw it back on them rather than just discussing. Huge FOS Hippo.

But Yeah, I would really like to get this moving a bit faster. I'm used to playing in live chat. This is taking ages.

I've never voted on anyone for inactivity (as I said I'm used to live chat), but this is a bit ridiculous. Either play or die. (damn that was dramatic! )

VOTE SULLY

(PS: before anyone asks why Sully and not Jens... because I am still hopeful for a replacement. I would rather play with the full group if we can. As Sully has confirmed and just isn't playing and Jens hasn't, I am going with Sully.)

[thehippo8]

I dislike the way Hippo tends to attack anyone that gives him FOS and attempt to throw it back on them rather than just discussing. Huge FOS Hippo.

But Yeah, I would really like to get this moving a bit faster. I'm used to playing in live chat. This is taking ages.

I've never voted on anyone for inactivity (as I said I'm used to live chat), but this is a bit ridiculous. Either play or die. (damn that was dramatic! )

VOTE SULLY

(PS: before anyone asks why Sully and not Jens... because I am still hopeful for a replacement. I would rather play with the full group if we can. As Sully has confirmed and just isn't playing and Jens hasn't, I am going with Sully.)

Cheers Fox ... you and everyone else have slapped me hard on that issue ... I'm new at this and noobs push boundaries. I think I've pushed as much as I can and so from this point on I will keep my FOSing to the minimum

[terrafutan]

So, it's back to the drwing board. And in answer to Zimmah and Skill ... can I remind you all that we still have two players who are silent. In particular JenBroness and Victor Sullivan. To be fair Sully is a rediculously busy person and has at least posted once. FOS JenBroness. I would vote but perhaps it is time for me to take a back seat and listen for a while!

The back seat is where all the cool scum kids sit so they can watch the townies in the front and react accordingly.

Yes she did confirm. Violet posted in another forum that she prefers to have people lynched than replaced ... hence my suggestion that at least by lynching JenBrowness we have an easy first day. This is no deflection, far from it. It is reasonable to pursue an avenue until it results in a conclusion. I am satisfied we have done that with Zimmah. What deflection are you talking about? Please explain yourself.

Very eager to vote off an inactive, regardless of the fact they might be town. That's not town like, you get inactives every game, not a good enough reason to possibly go a town less without learning anything.

Thanks Vio ... so why not lynch Jen now and then see what's what after that! I have a feeling that Jen's lynching will help us immensely!

Eager beaver. How's that back seat doing.

There you go ... try and be helpful and it gets slapped in your face.

Not sure why you think I'm scummy. IMO Zimmah was being scummy and you lot are happy with his answers so I simply backed off. Zimmah says so what now find something else to do. So I point out there are inactives (plural). Soomehow that's supposed to be scummy? Come on! Ok so you lot love Zimmah and you love Jen ... nice!

One last attempt at being rational, ... Victor Sullivan is also being silent. What excuse do you have for not putting pressure on him?

Oh, and before you ask ... I am vanilla townie!

Pointing out the pointless to make yourself look more town like. We all know there are inactives, only scum would know who the inactive town would be.

Then an RC out of the blue to just confirm you're town, and trying hard to hunt scum. Too hard me thinks.

Sorry terra, just trying to find something useful to grasp onto. In a way you are right though, the point of the game is to find the scum. There are now three players in my sights, Jens, Sully and now you. I still say let's remove Jens as that will both help the town and I believe help unravel the mathematical puzzle posed by edoc. FOS terra.

So a reactionary vote then. Should I put a OMGUS here, or will you jump on that too.

I agree ... That's why I voted for Sully. The Jens thing that I keep bleating on about was just an alternative to try and reinvigorate discussion. So, come on town ... let's get cracking!

So your continuous bleating to get a possible town voted off was simply to reinvigorate discussion ? Didn't look like it to me.

Oh yeah, and just to reinforce your earlier unneeded RC, a little rah rah for town. OK then.

Cheers Fox ... you and everyone else have slapped me hard on that issue ... I'm new at this and noobs push boundaries. I think I've pushed as much as I can and so from this point on I will keep my FOSing to the minimum

Why the change ? Why the reactionary vote when you get pushed ? FOS more, it's fun to watch.

[thehippo8]

So, it's back to the drwing board. And in answer to Zimmah and Skill ... can I remind you all that we still have two players who are silent. In particular JenBroness and Victor Sullivan. To be fair Sully is a rediculously busy person and has at least posted once. FOS JenBroness. I would vote but perhaps it is time for me to take a back seat and listen for a while!

The back seat is where all the cool scum kids sit so they can watch the townies in the front and react accordingly.

Yes she did confirm. Violet posted in another forum that she prefers to have people lynched than replaced ... hence my suggestion that at least by lynching JenBrowness we have an easy first day. This is no deflection, far from it. It is reasonable to pursue an avenue until it results in a conclusion. I am satisfied we have done that with Zimmah. What deflection are you talking about? Please explain yourself.

Very eager to vote off an inactive, regardless of the fact they might be town. That's not town like, you get inactives every game, not a good enough reason to possibly go a town less without learning anything.

Thanks Vio ... so why not lynch Jen now and then see what's what after that! I have a feeling that Jen's lynching will help us immensely!

Eager beaver. How's that back seat doing.

There you go ... try and be helpful and it gets slapped in your face.

Not sure why you think I'm scummy. IMO Zimmah was being scummy and you lot are happy with his answers so I simply backed off. Zimmah says so what now find something else to do. So I point out there are inactives (plural). Soomehow that's supposed to be scummy? Come on! Ok so you lot love Zimmah and you love Jen ... nice!

One last attempt at being rational, ... Victor Sullivan is also being silent. What excuse do you have for not putting pressure on him?

Oh, and before you ask ... I am vanilla townie!

Pointing out the pointless to make yourself look more town like. We all know there are inactives, only scum would know who the inactive town would be.

Then an RC out of the blue to just confirm you're town, and trying hard to hunt scum. Too hard me thinks.

Sorry terra, just trying to find something useful to grasp onto. In a way you are right though, the point of the game is to find the scum. There are now three players in my sights, Jens, Sully and now you. I still say let's remove Jens as that will both help the town and I believe help unravel the mathematical puzzle posed by edoc. FOS terra.

So a reactionary vote then. Should I put a OMGUS here, or will you jump on that too.

I agree ... That's why I voted for Sully. The Jens thing that I keep bleating on about was just an alternative to try and reinvigorate discussion. So, come on town ... let's get cracking!

So your continuous bleating to get a possible town voted off was simply to reinvigorate discussion ? Didn't look like it to me.

Oh yeah, and just to reinforce your earlier unneeded RC, a little rah rah for town. OK then.

Cheers Fox ... you and everyone else have slapped me hard on that issue ... I'm new at this and noobs push boundaries. I think I've pushed as much as I can and so from this point on I will keep my FOSing to the minimum

Why the change ? Why the reactionary vote when you get pushed ? FOS more, it's fun to watch.

Dream much? Not on your nelly! Nothing I have said or suggsted is scummy at all ... and your selective quoting is very impressive! But way off mark. Sigh ... to talk and get stabbed or to not and get stabbed ... funny game this!

[terrafutan]

Dream much? Not on your nelly! Nothing I have said or suggsted is scummy at all ... and your selective quoting is very impressive! But way off mark. Sigh ... to talk and get stabbed or to not and get stabbed ... funny game this!

I'm not one to worry about the words used when playing mafia. I tend to work with how things are said rather than what is said. Behavior more than content. People asked me why I voted, my quoting was to show where my reasoning comes from.

So instead of glossing over my reply and ignoring it, answer some questions.

Why the early RC when there was no need ?
Why the push to lynch an inactive then coming out saying it was just to 'reinvigorate discussion' ?
How did you get the other two (Jens, Sully) into your sights, when they have yet to say much/anything, I mean what is the scummiest thing Jens has done ?

[thehippo8]

Ok ... good questions.

The early RC was when I ws trying to get to the bottom of where Zimmah was coming from. Things got heated there for a moment and I really couldn't understand why. So Zimmah gave his facetious answer and convinced me to back off. In the hurly-burly it seemed unfair to force Zimmah to claim and not claim myself. Incidentally, I was asked to claim also.

Check the log, I'm not the only one that thinks lynching inactives is a good idea (in fact I first thought of it after reading a post by vio in a mod link - which vio later confirmed - check the log). But given four or more days went by I was being cheeky by going back to check on the consensus regarding the resolve to lynch Sully over Jens. Like I said then, it really doesn't matter which inactive we remove, the more removed the more the mathematical puzzle will make sense.

I can't say why Jens and Sully were in my sights, particulalry, they are inactive and seemed appropriate. I preferred Jens initially because Jens was least involved but was diswayed by everyone else when they weren't into removing Jens. Ask them their reasons but as a vanilla townie I prefer to go with the general consensus. The Jens issue is gone for round one.

So, rather than drag this on ... what ideas do you have. If you have it in for me then that seems rather scummy in itself. But frankly I think you are just having a bit of fun at my expense .. and I am proud of you for it! After all, what would this game be if it wasn't for these types of discussions!

[trinicardinal]

I dislike the way Hippo tends to attack anyone that gives him FOS and attempt to throw it back on them rather than just discussing. Huge FOS Hippo.

But Yeah, I would really like to get this moving a bit faster. I'm used to playing in live chat. This is taking ages.

I've never voted on anyone for inactivity (as I said I'm used to live chat), but this is a bit ridiculous. Either play or die. (damn that was dramatic! )

VOTE SULLY

(PS: before anyone asks why Sully and not Jens... because I am still hopeful for a replacement. I would rather play with the full group if we can. As Sully has confirmed and just isn't playing and Jens hasn't, I am going with Sully.)

lol... Sully has now become more active in at least one other area of the site... I have seen some posts from him fro example one in the Announcements (Halloween events) and he's posted in the mafia games for the volunteers... so I expected to see something here... either he has forgotten again or is deliberately submarining... either way maybe a prob of some sort is in order so Vote Sully

[MoB Deadly]

Hes also updated his own Mafia Sevens game, and has had very good post quality in Actors Mafia. I was expecting him to float over here too

[Eldario]

Vote Sully , it seems he either have forgotten this game, since hi is active in other games or deliberately avoiding post here, and Hippo as you can see on page 14 i actually unvoted quite some time ago, its just mod that missed it. NOT O.K. mods

[Eldario]

And FOS HIppo for being extremely defensive and FOSing everyone thats votingf on him

[chapcrap]

Vote Sully , it seems he either have forgotten this game, since hi is active in other games or deliberately avoiding post here, and Hippo as you can see on page 14 i actually unvoted quite some time ago, its just mod that missed it. NOT O.K. mods

No reason to scold the mods if they miss something. It happens. Just point it out, so they can fix it. Maybe even unvote again.

Also, you need to bold the person you are voting too, typically.

[Victor Sullivan]

Ay, ay, ay, it's not so easy to get caught up on tens of pages of text, eh? I'm a Vanilla Townie, so I suppose it's not as big a deal if I am lynched, as I'm only on page 11 trying to get caught up. Anywho, so far I've found the following most suspicious, though no meta game grounds for such an accusation:

Vote FoxMists

-Sully

[thehippo8]

Ay, ay, ay, it's not so easy to get caught up on tens of pages of text, eh? I'm a Vanilla Townie, so I suppose it's not as big a deal if I am lynched, as I'm only on page 11 trying to get caught up. Anywho, so far I've found the following most suspicious, though no meta game grounds for such an accusation:

Vote FoxMists

-Sully

Welcome back Sully. Not changing my vote though without something more. All rather scummy on your part!

[wildwilliam]

Ay, ay, ay, it's not so easy to get caught up on tens of pages of text, eh? I'm a Vanilla Townie, so I suppose it's not as big a deal if I am lynched, as I'm only on page 11 trying to get caught up. Anywho, so far I've found the following most suspicious, though no meta game grounds for such an accusation:

Vote FoxMists

-Sully

and what was so suspicious?

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

hippo(3)- chap, shield, terrafutan

zimmah(3)- pancake, conozo, edoc

Sully (8)- hippo, zimmah, Mob, dazza, wildwilliam, Fox, trini, eldario


With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline on November 16th (approximately 2 weeks from now).

Vote Sully , it seems he either have forgotten this game, since hi is active in other games or deliberately avoiding post here, and Hippo as you can see on page 14 i actually unvoted quite some time ago, its just mod that missed it. NOT O.K. mods

First of all, it isn't an easy job to keep track of all the votes, especially Day 1. Second of all, a vote should include the person you're voting for, so Vote player. I'll count it this time, but consider it a reminder.

Lastly, this is an online mafia game, chill out. Whether or not we missed an unvote, you unvoted but didn't bold it, or you thought you unvoted but really didn't, mistakes will happen. Just unvote in your next post and revote. If you really want to be sure your vote will count, unvote before you change every vote in the same post. So something like this unvote vote player.

[chapcrap]

Ay, ay, ay, it's not so easy to get caught up on tens of pages of text, eh? I'm a Vanilla Townie, so I suppose it's not as big a deal if I am lynched, as I'm only on page 11 trying to get caught up. Anywho, so far I've found the following most suspicious, though no meta game grounds for such an accusation:

Vote FoxMists

-Sully

Well, after that, I have no choice, but to unvote vote Sully. Even though hippo has been all over the place, FOSing everything that moves, double posting, triple posting... Can't excuse this, especially with the weakest deflection ever on Foxy.

[Conzocool]

Ay, ay, ay, it's not so easy to get caught up on tens of pages of text, eh? I'm a Vanilla Townie, so I suppose it's not as big a deal if I am lynched, as I'm only on page 11 trying to get caught up. Anywho, so far I've found the following most suspicious, though no meta game grounds for such an accusation:

Vote FoxMists

-Sully

Well, after that, I have no choice, but to unvote vote Sully. Even though hippo has been all over the place, FOSing everything that moves, double posting, triple posting... Can't excuse this, especially with the weakest deflection ever on Foxy.

Same here. He's been pretty inactive, (not that I can talk...) and had a pretty bad deflection. unvote Vote Sully

[Victor Sullivan]

No deflection. Merely stating who I think is suspicious.

-Sully

[edocsil]

No deflection. Merely stating who I think is suspicious.

-Sully

Doesn't count if you don't give a reason. Unvote Vote Sully

BTW

[zimmah]

Ay, ay, ay, it's not so easy to get caught up on tens of pages of text, eh? I'm a Vanilla Townie, so I suppose it's not as big a deal if I am lynched, as I'm only on page 11 trying to get caught up. Anywho, so far I've found the following most suspicious, though no meta game grounds for such an accusation:

Vote FoxMists

-Sully

after all this submarining you just pop in and say foxmist is suspicious, without even giving any reason and think you'll get away with that, even while the focus is on you?

intentional or not, i expected better from you sully. i'd almost think you are a jester or something.

[Victor Sullivan]

*shrugs* Perhaps it's for the best. At least you know where my suspicions lie for future reference.

-Sully