Jewel of the Empire coordinates & xml (new xml?)

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:22 pm

Meant to edit first post, accidently used "quote."

Gozar · Post by **Gozar** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:34 pm

I really like this one.

Cheers!

Gozar

(the elephant is gone)

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:11 pm

Forgot to put the Elephant back. The Elephant will return.

Dark or light shadows?

Evil DIMwit · Post by **Evil DIMwit** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:14 pm

It's a tricky choice because that changes the feeling of the map significantly, but I would say light because dark looks awful with the blue numbers.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:14 pm

I think white is better but I offer the choice because I'm sure somebody would ask the question.

Here's the large map. Couple of minor changes.

*Sundarbans territory enlarged so "Sundarbans" isn't quite so squashed

*Elephant back

*Stray pixels cleaned up along the borders

fireedud · Post by **fireedud** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:16 pm

I think the elephant should be more opaque.

PimpCaneYoAss · Post by **PimpCaneYoAss** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:18 pm

Personally i think the army circles are a bit too small and make the elephant less visible

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:23 pm

Less visible? The Elephant is on 10%. Any less visible and it will be gone. Perhaps you don't want the elephant after all.

Neilhouse · Post by **Neilhouse** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:37 pm

I think the elephant adds a certain charm to the map. It's not in the way of anything so why should it be more opaque than it already is?

I was wondering if you could make the writing of Diu stand out a little more. It's tough to see with the pink background.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:56 pm

Neilhouse wrote:I think the elephant adds a certain charm to the map. It's not in the way of anything so why should it be more opaque than it already is?

I was wondering if you could make the writing of Diu stand out a little more. It's tough to see with the pink background.

Yep. Good call. It will be better over the sea, like Calcutta.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:04 pm

i think the dot in the 'i' of india should be a shining jewel.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:39 pm

I have the perfect image of a yellow diamond for it but at that resolution it doesn't look much like a jewel. It looks a cheesey, blurry mess.

I can't do an artistic equivalent. So, sorry, not possible. Good idea though.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:56 pm

Sorry, missed this comment from earlier

unriggable wrote:I would like it more if the images in the background are less subtle.

Discussed earlier... concensus seems to be to keep the background dark.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:20 pm

Contrickster wrote:I have the perfect image of a yellow diamond for it but at that resolution it doesn't look much like a jewel. It looks a cheesey, blurry mess.

I can't do an artistic equivalent. So, sorry, not possible. Good idea though.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:00 pm

Streuth!

(Awesome, but... no.)

* I've added some glisten to the dot.

* Diu moved.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:24 pm

bummer.

btw, your 'i' has an ingrown hair. might want to have that checked out.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:39 pm

mibi wrote:bummer.

btw, your 'i' has an ingrown hair. might want to have that checked out.

Uh?

Sorry, I thought you were joking. I don't think your jewel graphic suits the map at all. The glisten effect I've drawn is more in keeping with the style.

This map is not about presentation anyway. World 2.0 isn't fancy but people play it. Why? It has awesome playability. I want acceptable presentation but nothing fancy.

It's time to stop messing about with it, I think.

assasinsensei · Post by **assasinsensei** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:45 am

i didn't read any of the conversation above because basically i didn't care but i do like the idea of the map but it does need work it will be cool in the end i'm sure.

luckiekevin · Post by **luckiekevin** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:52 am

I vote for light circles... jewel is a little cheesy

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:31 pm

I have an issue with the name:

The two varients seen in both mass media and scholarly works are The Jewel IN the CROWN or the Jewel OF the Empire. Your title is the Jewel IN the Empire. It should be OF really.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:13 am

Guiscard wrote:I have an issue with the name:

The two varients seen in both mass media and scholarly works are The Jewel IN the CROWN or the Jewel OF the Empire. Your title is the Jewel IN the Empire. It should be OF really.

Okay. Will change.

Right now, I think I've drawn up an exiting small (five-player) map that looks good - but I don't hear calls for "final forge." Why? Nor is this thread, it seems to me, attracting a great deal of interest. Very knowledgeable people have replied which is great. But on the really cool maps it seems to me you get lots of random comments... therefore, this cannot be a really cool map.

What do I have to do to make it cool (while keeping it simple enough for an art moron to do)?

johloh · Post by **johloh** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:21 am

i think the jewel ___ the empire text should go below the india title...not up in the corner...

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:41 pm

johloh wrote:i think the jewel ___ the empire text should go below the india title...not up in the corner...

Since I moved it I've been moved to add sparkle on the dot of the I. The subtitle may now look better below the title. In the next update.

Contrickster · Post by **Contrickster** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:35 am

* Jewel "of" the Empire

* Moved "Jewel of the Empire" below title

* Rajputana circle moved slightly to the right.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:26 pm

Contrickster wrote:
Guiscard wrote:I have an issue with the name:

The two varients seen in both mass media and scholarly works are The Jewel IN the CROWN or the Jewel OF the Empire. Your title is the Jewel IN the Empire. It should be OF really.
Okay. Will change.

Right now, I think I've drawn up an exiting small (five-player) map that looks good - but I don't hear calls for "final forge." Why? Nor is this thread, it seems to me, attracting a great deal of interest. Very knowledgeable people have replied which is great. But on the really cool maps it seems to me you get lots of random comments... therefore, this cannot be a really cool map.

What do I have to do to make it cool (while keeping it simple enough for an art moron to do)?

You have a map of a very specific location, one country infact, and at a specific time period. It does not have a wide appeal but it is not suppose to. Those who could care less about india or colonialism probably wont play this map unless it turns out to have great game play. but those who dig india will love it. and the rest will just give a shot for the hell of it.

so dont worry about the amount of replies in this thread. just keep going and it will get into the forge in due time.

personally i would like to see some red and gold going on because that reminds me of india, and maybe a jewel!. i dont think this map has much indian flavor beside the shape of the country.

Jewel of the Empire coordinates & xml (new xml?)

Would you like me to continue with this map?

Re: Jewel in the Empire XML done #24 12/04/07