Zelda Mafia ~ Town Wins! Hyrule is Safe

[DoomYoshi]

It's possible that the only reason I was successfully blocked is that rds' boomerang has been upgraded. I don't know why/how it worked on me, (or even why Mr. S told me that I was blocked)... but that's how it happened on me.

Rather than just discussing my role, perhaps someone could refute my actual defenses of the cases on me. Right now I have a bunch of votes but no new evidence. This could be a case of mafia trying to pin an easy lynch. Drunk presented a good case on me, I will admit, that seems like a very scummy set of statements. However, not one person has addressed my defense.

The other cases on me are that BG wants me lynched because I asked for a player to be prodded. Um... I am not sure I can answer to that one lol.

MoB just thinks I am scummy but doesn't know why. Um... I am not sure I can answer to that one lol.

If this is really what you want to decide, you want to lynch me based on hunches, that's fine too, I guess. I am not very useful to town if I am going to be roleblocked every night (the main use of a commuter being that it is harder to target me for a night kill). After I am dead, hopefully you can learn from voting patterns who is scum.

[MoB Deadly]

MoB just thinks I am scummy but doesn't know why. Um... I am not sure I can answer to that one lol.

If this is really what you want to decide, you want to lynch me based on hunches, that's fine too, I guess. I am not very useful to town if I am going to be roleblocked every night (the main use of a commuter being that it is harder to target me for a night kill). After I am dead, hopefully you can learn from voting patterns who is scum.

I've thought you were scummy based upon voting patterns, it's just hard to build a case around it because I was one of the people that defended killboy too. We defended killboy for one reason or another. Someone here didn't vote for him or defended him because he was on their team and thats who we have to catch.

I suppose I will unvote for now, not that im 100% sold on your role, even though it DOES make sense to have the postman in the game

[BGtheBrain]

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[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count

dazza (1) - drunkmonkey
shield (4) - drake, BG, victor, spiesr
yoshi (2) - epitaph, rds

14 alive, 8 to lynch
Deadline sunday

[BGtheBrain]

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[drunkmonkey]

I was waiting for the reply before I switched voted, but I'm still not satisfied.

unvote vote DoomYoshi

[BGtheBrain]

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[MoB Deadly]

unvote vote doom yoshi

Im gonna go with my gut here. I thought your actions before looked suspect and SOMEONE has to pay for defending killboy. Your role claim does sound convincing, but there are little things about it that make me doubt it.

[shieldgenerator7]

Alright, I'm convinced Doomyopshi is scum. I wasn't before exactly, but I don't think commuters can be roleblocked and if he didn't use his action then there would be no use in roleblocking him.
Vote DoomYoshi

[Mr. Squirrel]

Yoshi at L-2

[Victor Sullivan]

Get that weak ass shit outta here!



This is just absurd. I strongly believe DoomYoshi to be town. Commuter is so obscure, it would surprise me if that were provided as a fake claim. And even if it was a fake claim, why would he say that his commute was roleblocked (thereby validating rds' claim), when he could have easily said he didn't know (as per a normal Commuter) - the latter is a much more beneficial route to take for mafia - it doesn't verify rds' claim, and it sticks with the traditional functionality of a Commuter.

Plus, with shield's bandwagoning vote just above, I am even more convinced he's scum.

For emphasis: unvote vote shieldgenerator7

-Sully

[drake_259]

I also agree that i don't believe doom is mafia, so my vote stays.

[BGtheBrain]

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[MoB Deadly]

My votes sticks: On Day 2:

Vote Count

shield (2) - yoshi, drunk monkey
freezie (1) - victor
fireside (2) - nag, dazza

19 alive, 10 to lynch

Deadline: Monday

I don't see any strong evidence that points to anyone being scum at this stage. Since we're forced to make a call I'll vote Shield Generator because he seems to try to cast suspicion on other players as scum more than other people, like when he has a go at BG and others who voted for Rds as though they're scummy for band-wagoning.

Im still leaning toward Doom because I don't think Killboy would try to keep the BW going on shield

[drunkmonkey]

Also, no word from Com9.

I'm shocked.

[dazza2008]

Hey! What is the vote count? I was hoping to hear from C9 but that looks unlikely. Not sure who I should vote for. Yoshi seems the most convincing case to me I will have another read through and make a decision.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count

shield (3) - drake, victor, spiesr
yoshi (6) - epitaph, rds, bg, drunkmonk, mob, shield

Not voting: PCM, C9, dazza, doomyoshi, djfireside

14 alive, 8 to lynch
Deadline sunday

[dazza2008]

Listen! Vote shield Yoshi has sounded more convincing to me.

[pancakemix]

To me, shield just sounded confused. Illogical, but confused. DoomYoshi's claim doesn't make sense (at least the getting blocked part).

I'm gonna pass on voting here. Neither case is convincing to me.

[spiesr]

I'm still leaning toward Doom because I don't think Killboy would try to keep the BW going on shield

Interesting, this point could cause me to reconsider my position. Had anyone played with Killboy before, or interacted with him at all, enough to apply meta game logic to his actions? Would he refuse to vote for a scummate? Would he be smart enough to considere the circumstances of the situation and possibly vote against scum mates in order to hide his relations to them? Would he not bother thinking about any of this and vote for shield for no reason?
While I am on the subject of meta gaming, does anyone know dazza's mafia abilities enough to hazard a guess if dazza would be able to come up with the idea of faking a post restriction in order to establish fake innocence from the start?

[drunkmonkey]

While I am on the subject of meta gaming, does anyone know dazza's mafia abilities enough to hazard a guess if dazza would be able to come up with the idea of faking a post restriction in order to establish fake innocence from the start?

I don't know dazza's style well enough, but that was a point I made in my first case of the day. I'm very suspicious of dazza's claim & voting habits.

[BGtheBrain]

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[DoomYoshi]

I'm still leaning toward Doom because I don't think Killboy would try to keep the BW going on shield

Interesting, this point could cause me to reconsider my position. Had anyone played with Killboy before, or interacted with him at all, enough to apply meta game logic to his actions? Would he refuse to vote for a scummate? Would he be smart enough to considere the circumstances of the situation and possibly vote against scum mates in order to hide his relations to them? Would he not bother thinking about any of this and vote for shield for no reason?
While I am on the subject of meta gaming, does anyone know dazza's mafia abilities enough to hazard a guess if dazza would be able to come up with the idea of faking a post restriction in order to establish fake innocence from the start?

I am in his clan... however, I haven't played mafia with him before.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Zimmah is replacing c9.

Deadline pushed back until wednesday night

[zimmah]

confirmed, but i will need several hours to read my way though nearly 50 pages.