Rodion wrote:As for pressuring someone right now, vote killboy.
Since you said in my FF7 thread that that would be your first game, I assume that this one is actually your first, so I'll give you an explanation on why you need to post more. Basically, other than a cop saying they got a guilty on someone (and our cop is already dead, by the way), the only way we can actually decide who is mafia is by analysing everyone's ideas/posts in the thread. If you don't post, you are technically immune to scrutiny and a mafia player that can't be scrutinized is in a great position to the town's dismay. That is why people will not let you be inactive/lurk and will vote you if you do that. Not having spectacular ideas is not a reason for not posting. Posting only to say that you don't know what to say is not helpful either (and, frankly, I'm not sure how Gimli is able to survive so long by doing that, but I digress). Anyway, your explanation is here and all excuses for not posting are off.
Squirrel, please prod him (and anyone else that has not posted at all during D3).
At this point, there had been suspicion on killboy, but no votes for the current day. It didn't hurt to cast a vote here, as he could pull it back later (which he did when he voted Victor). I believe this was an attempt to:
a) Distance himself from killboy if a lynch did happen
and, maybe more importantly,
b) Prod one of his fellow mafia members to be more active in the thread. When Rodion does post in the thread, it's full of information. He highlights facts on existing cases & presents new questions, while being sure not to shed negative light on the wrong people. It's a good strategy, and I believe he wanted the rest of his team to employ it as well. You can see how much effort he put into telling killboy to post more. There's only one other player he's encouraged to post more often:
Rodion wrote:dazza2008 wrote:Rodion wrote:dazza2008 wrote:Listen! I also do not see what the case is on Rds. I thought he explained his actions quite well and believe what he said. It does seem Djfireside is bandwaggoning BGtheBrain and looking back at day 1 I am finding BG a bit suspicious too.
vote Djfireside
Listen! Carefully! This is the first time I see you but I'd like to establish some things before this game becomes a clusterfuck. I don't care that you have a credible softclaim in Navi, you're still accountable for your actions! Your one-line justification for an Rds vote yesterday rubbed me the wrong way. Now you are all over yourself saying that DJ is bandwagoning BG when he is actually bandwagoning Rds. You also mentioned you find BG suspicious without stating an actual reason. I want a reason on your next post.
Hey! Yes I perhaps phrased that wrongly. I meant bandwaggoning with BG on Rds. Sorry. After a few games I will hopefully get all the terms right but I hoped you would all get my point. Not sure exactly what else you want me to say Rodion? I had a point I wanted to say so I said it. If my point takes 1 line or 200 is it not the point i'm making that counts?
To clarify, I said "all over yourself" but I actually meant "all over the place".
Anyhow, it is pretty damn hard to explain your thoughts in 1 line. Short of a cop saying he got a guilty report or a counterclaim, one-liners are not enough to reveal your thought process behind it in a convincible manner. You said Rds was in a hurry to get the day to end. Why did you think that? Perhaps because he was the 5th (I think) jokevote on Yoshi? It takes 11 to lynch and it is not feasible to imagine that a jokevote bandwagon would actually get 11 votes without any of the jokevoters retracting his vote before it is too late. The "no lynch" suggestion, while poor, is not a proof of being scum, but rather someone having a different (possibly worse) strategical approach to the game. The suggestion happened in my first mafia game (Safari's Terminator Mafia) and AoG got to L-1 for suggesting it if I recall correctly. He was vanilla town.
I still want to know why you think BG is "a bit suspicious". You mentioned it without explaining.
Now, he also asked rds & Victor a few questions, but he didn't have nearly the same depth of conversation as he did with dazza. Just like he did with killboy, he seems to focus on encouraging dazza to post more, rather than the case itself. The only difference is no one is suspicious of dazza at this point.
Fast forward to the end of the day:
Mr. Squirrel wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:Mr. Squirrel, can you verify whether or not we need a majority to lynch today or if it will be whoever has the most votes again?
I was going to lynch the most voted player. You guys still have about 6-8 hours til deadline. You guys can always vote no lynch if you want.
Vote Count
Killboy (2) - rds, nag
C9 (1) - MoB
victor (1) - rodion
rodion (1) - victor
18 alive, 10 to lynch
At this point, killboy has the lead by one vote. The next vote cast is:
dazza2008 wrote:Listen! I agree Commander9 has been very inactive. At this time I can't really see a better case vote C9
This makes a tie on killboy, and comes from a player who's been relatively inactive so far.
Yes, dazza has claimed Navi, but we don't know anything else about the role. One more side note, from just before the lynch. We haven't seen a fake claim yet, but this post leads me to believe mafia has them:
Rodion wrote:Killboy, if by any chance you are reading this, claim immediately. Fully. That means character, power and what you did with your power on the last 2 nights. It's probably too late to get enough people to unvote you if your claim is good, but at least we might get information that may clear/implicate people in the future.
Of course, it could just be Rodion distancing himself again.
"Hey! Listen!" isn't enough for me anymore.
vote dazza2008
) --- it's got SHIELDS!
