Jules Verne Contest [Complete]

[Pandemonium]

Anyway, 3 player bonuses are not OK by me - you can easily isolate 2 players, (3, not so much)
so I vote all future maps and other parts of this tourney to be with 4 players left at least.

and all games should be 8 player, 7 players feels like cheating...
I mean, you get 1 point for being there - killed first, instead of 0 in the 8 players games.

[Dukasaur]

and all games should be 8 player, 7 players feels like cheating...
I mean, you get 1 point for being there - killed first, instead of 0 in the 8 players games.

We've had people quit since we reached 64... I think we have 58 or 59 active players, which doesn't work out to an even number of 8 player games. Should I be calling up replacements, then?

[Pandemonium]

I dunno Dukasaur, it's your decision.
There are only 3 games left, so I think the next tourney will be better organized with replacements, this one can stay with 7 player games since we had lots of them already. It would be a bummer though if someone wins this tourney and the second guy has 1 or 2 points less, and the winner got those 1 or 2 points in 7 player games just by being there...

[Dukasaur]

I dunno Dukasaur, it's your decision.
There are only 3 games left, so I think the next tourney will be better organized with replacements, this one can stay with 7 player games since we had lots of them already. It would be a bummer though if someone wins this tourney and the second guy has 1 or 2 points less, and the winner got those 1 or 2 points in 7 player games just by being there...

The thing with advantages like that is that since we randomize the groups for every map, the advantage goes to someone different every time, so it should balance out.

[Pandemonium]

About the BONUS dispute in Game 9401801, this is what the log says

2011-07-21 01:06:11 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-24 03:18:48 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-24 07:52:46 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +1

2011-07-25 19:56:24 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-28 14:04:29 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Nubium from Europe Landing Site EU2 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +1

2011-07-28 14:04:52 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-31 21:16:48 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-31 22:03:08 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:57:41 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Frigoris from Europe Landing Site EU1 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:58:33 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-08-08 04:12:25 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-10 18:48:19 - Incrementing game to round 8 - they were both holding the mares through rounds 6/7/8

2011-08-14 03:54:40 - Incrementing game to round 9

So, in this case, I would say FBON got the bonus first, may that be in pure luck that he was rolling first and CONC was rolling last in the rounds - after all, its a game of luck & strategy - anyhow Dukasaur should have a last say here too.


- about the dividing the points in case of Objective achievement:
the idea is - winner takes 10 points (in this case 0 because it's Dukasaur)
and the rest of the points 8+6+4+3+2+1 = 24 are divided equally to the rest of the players -- 24/7 = 3,43 (lets round it at 4)

- but in this particular case 4 players were already eliminated before the objective was won,
so the remaining three can divide points 8+6+4 = 18 -- 18/3 = 6 points for each player. So, the table would look like this:

Dustin800 - 3
Pack Man - 2
Opposites. - 6
iwillrockyou - 0
Bobdakota - 1
Conchobar - 6
fbonsignori - 6+10 = 16 bonus
Dukasaur - 10 (zero)

[Dukasaur]

About the BONUS dispute in Game 9401801, this is what the log says

2011-07-21 01:06:11 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-24 03:18:48 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-24 07:52:46 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +1

2011-07-25 19:56:24 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-28 14:04:29 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Nubium from Europe Landing Site EU2 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +1

2011-07-28 14:04:52 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-31 21:16:48 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-31 22:03:08 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:57:41 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Frigoris from Europe Landing Site EU1 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:58:33 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-08-08 04:12:25 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-10 18:48:19 - Incrementing game to round 8 - they were both holding the mares through rounds 6/7/8

2011-08-14 03:54:40 - Incrementing game to round 9

So, in this case, I would say FBON got the bonus first, may that be in pure luck that he was rolling first and CONC was rolling last in the rounds - after all, its a game of luck & strategy - anyhow Dukasaur should have a last say here too.


- about the dividing the points in case of Objective achievement:
the idea is - winner takes 10 points (in this case 0 because it's Dukasaur)
and the rest of the points 8+6+4+3+2+1 = 24 are divided equally to the rest of the players -- 24/7 = 3,43 (lets round it at 4)

- but in this particular case 4 players were already eliminated before the objective was won,
so the remaining three can divide points 8+6+4 = 18 -- 18/3 = 6 points for each player. So, the table would look like this:

Dustin800 - 3
Pack Man - 2
Opposites. - 6
iwillrockyou - 0
Bobdakota - 1
Conchobar - 6
fbonsignori - 6+10 = 16 bonus
Dukasaur - 10 (zero)

I think it's fine the way you have it.

It's bad luck that two players got the bonus so soon after each other, but hey, if it was a Formula 1 race and 0.001 seconds separated the first car from the second car they would still give the cup to the first one.

[Pandemonium]

So, when can we start the South America map?
Maybe a group messeage to all the freemiums to post here if they're ready or not...

[Dukasaur]

So, when can we start the South America map?
Maybe a group messeage to all the freemiums to post here if they're ready or not...

Well, two of our freemies have resigned and three have upgraded, which is nice to see. So we're down to nine and I checked them all manually. They all have slots except severs, which is pretty good.

I am a little worried to see if anyone else intends to drop out, so I'll send a letter to the list anyway. (Actually, a couple resignations at this point would be okay... we have 58 players left; if we had 56 it would work out to evenly as seven 8-player games.)

Tomorrow I'll make the South America games.

[Dukasaur]

iwillrocku and n.n. resigned from the tournament
McLor and DBandit70 have vanished from CC.
Anybody else?

[Dukasaur]

from PM:

please count out Capt. Ivan Drago. I'm finishing up his tournies, but would rather not extend any if possible. I'll gladly fill in for him if that helps.

- pittsburgh00

Okay, that's one out.
Also for completeness, I should add that alexcata and Remy1309 were cut earlier.

iwillrocku and n.n. resigned from the tournament
McLor and DBandit70 have vanished from CC.
Anybody else?

[Dukasaur]

I'm told Justin3F has been missing a lot of turns. Anybody know him, and is he still playing?

[VicFontaine]

The only way I can know if I'm going to quit or not is if I have even a distant chance of winning. The tourney has been so long, I don't know what the point may be.

[Dukasaur]

The only way I can know if I'm going to quit or not is if I have even a distant chance of winning. The tourney has been so long, I don't know what the point may be.

There is a link to the scores spreadsheet in the first post:

The link to the main scores spreadsheet:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9tZNjRXkJydF9jLTh2LWh5QVZRQkc0NV80Q0pjU3c&hl=en_US#gid=0

You can go browse that, but if you want, I'll summarize for you:
You're standing in 51st place in a field of 58. You have 28 points, compared to the current leader, general_c, who has 74. It is theoretically still possible for you to catch up (there are enough points in the remaining games) but quite honestly if I had to bet real-world money on you, I wouldn't.

For anybody else, please go ahead and browse the scoresheet. We made it for a reason...

The link to the main scores spreadsheet:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9tZNjRXkJydF9jLTh2LWh5QVZRQkc0NV80Q0pjU3c&hl=en_US#gid=0

[VicFontaine]

LOL! Yeah...I'll bow out now. I have terrible tournament results!

[Pandemonium]

Hook2 had the bonus in Game 9470178 but didn't claim it...
Guys please, check and claim you own bonuses in the future.

[Dukasaur]

- - - - - - - - - - 1868- - - - - - - - - - -
English: In search of the Castaways (South america, Australia and New Zealand)
French: Les enfants du Capitaine Grant (l’Amérique du Sud, l’Australie, et l’Ocean Pacifique)

The books tell the story of the quest for Captain Grant of the Britannia. After finding a bottle cast into the ocean by the captain himself after the Britannia is shipwrecked, Lord and Lady Glenarvan of Scotland contact Mary and Robert, the young daughter and son of Captain Grant, through an announcement in a newspaper. Moved by the children's condition, Lord and Lady Glenarvan decide to launch a rescue expedition. The main difficulty is that the coordinates of the wreckage are mostly erased, and only the latitude (37 degrees) is known; thus, the expedition would have to circumnavigate the 37th parallel south. Remaining clues consist of a few words in three languages. They are re-interpreted several times throughout the novel to make various destinations seem likely.(Source : wikipedia)

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[Dukasaur]

Pandemonium, I'm on the highway struggling with the laptop and it's hard to do anything. Can you renew the expired invites please?

[Pandemonium]

Game 9401799

2011-07-18 22:19:13 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-21 10:56:57 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-21 14:37:53 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Japan Landing Site JP2 and conquered it from neutral player MARE 1

2011-07-22 06:54:56 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-22 14:05:39 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Mare Tranquillitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE 2

2011-07-23 17:07:06 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-24 03:17:24 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Vaporum from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE 3

2011-07-26 07:47:25 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-27 16:34:38 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-27 17:19:27 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Fecunditas from Mare Tranquillitatis and conquered it from DBandit70 MARE 4

2011-07-28 21:03:18 - Incrementing game to round 7 held at least 2 mares for rounds 4-5-6


Another unclaimed bonus... by a rude player and classic a-hole.
But, rules are rules, he gets the 10 bonus points.
Keep at it guys, one day I will not have time to check everything and you will stay with unclaimed bonuses...

[Pandemonium]

Pandemonium, I'm on the highway struggling with the laptop and it's hard to do anything. Can you renew the expired invites please?

Done

[ttblanch]

Indeed, look the chat http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=9401799
Sorry for rudeness but that guy was just a poor quiter...

[Dukasaur]

Indeed, look the chat http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=9401799
Sorry for rudeness but that guy was just a poor quiter...

I don't know about that. It's not uncommon for freemiums to ask someone to kill them off so they can free up a slot. And since he's already resigned from the tournament it makes sense.

In any case, it's better for him to ask to be killed than to just deadbeat out.

[Pandemonium]

Game 9401797

We had a false bonus claim here by jrbedwell, because dementia13 got the bonus first - see low below:

2011-07-14 14:32:53 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-16 14:20:52 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-18 17:45:32 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-21 20:00:15 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-25 03:19:02 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-26 14:19:12 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from neutral player MARE +1

2011-07-26 21:01:23 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-29 05:13:24 - Justin3f assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Cassini and conquered it from dementia13 MARE 0

2011-07-29 13:11:43 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from Justin3f MARE +1
2011-07-29 13:11:58 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Vaporum from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE +2

2011-07-30 07:05:38 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-01 16:36:00 - Incrementing game to round 8

2011-08-03 21:45:38 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from jrbedwell MARE +3

2011-08-04 00:16:10 - Incrementing game to round 9

2011-08-04 16:13:54 - JJ41375 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from dementia13 MARE +2

2011-08-07 06:03:03 - Incrementing game to round 10


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We also had false bonus claim in Game 9401795 by Squishyg - because SEVERS got there first - see log below:

2011-07-17 00:02:55 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-20 13:25:24 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-23 04:14:59 - severs assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player

2011-07-26 02:35:16 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-27 07:05:16 - severs assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player

2011-07-28 04:19:23 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-29 23:49:04 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-31 21:36:24 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-02 17:01:42 - Incrementing game to round 8


PS - It took time to re-check these logs and find these false claims, but people seem uninterested about these bonuses and stuff - Dukasaur, you'll have to make sure everyone understands the rules and bonuses for next tournies...

PPS - See Mr. Severs, I don't hate you, I got you a bonus, even when you tagged me as "Complainer, Vindictive"

[Pandemonium]

South America RESULTS [COMPLETE]

Game 9727850
1. general_c - 4
2. Chapcrap - 3
3. Dustin800 - 2
4. General Redstone - 8
5. torres44cm - 6+10 = 16 bonus
6. Stevkov - 1
7. Justin3f - 10

Game 9727844
8. IR1SH ACE - 6
9. Dementia13 - 0
10. Le Rodent - 3
11. Fairman - 8+10 = 18 bonus
12. Bandido - 10
13. Fbonsignori - 2
14. Cptbeefalo - 4
15. VestedPower - 1

Game 9727842 - game not finished, round 51, deadline expired
16. Lorenzol - 5
17. Sam02 - 5
18. Magneto_acolyte - 5
19. djelebert - 5
20. Pack Man - 5
21. Uckuki - 5
22. Marechal Joffre - 0
23. Hermey68 - 5

Game 9727841
24. Seamus76 - 2
25. Duncana - 3
26. jrbedwell - 4
27. Hook2 - 8
28. Opposites. - 10
29. Ttblanch - 1
30. Pilot16 - 6+10 = 16 bonus
31. Pandemonium - 0

Game 9727840
32. SirSebstar - 4
33. King Gary - 6
34. Rjhankey - 1
35. Bobzimmerman - 0
36. Growler - 10
37. severs - 2
38. Davetso - 3
39. Lazyfox - 8+10 = 18 bonus

Game 9727839
40. Squishyg - 3+10 = 13 bonus
41. Darkseb - 8
42. McShanester29 - 1
43. Rmjw10 - 6
44. Bobdakota - 10
45. MattiWacklin - 2
46. Kennys777 - 0
47. Ringemaster - 4

Game 9727838
48. Conchobar - 10
49. MlMarcelo - 0
50. JJ41375 - 2
51. Stofer71 - 3
52. Hotpockets - 1
53. PnC - 8
54. DrWar - 4
55. Fewnix - 6

PS - points & bonuses from unfinished games will be filled in as the games come to an end.

[Dukasaur]

Game 9401797

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Game 9401795

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PS - It took time to re-check these logs and find these false claims, but people seem uninterested about these bonuses and stuff - Dukasaur, you'll have to make sure everyone understands the rules and bonuses for next tournies...

PPS - See Mr. Severs, I don't hate you, I got you a bonus, even when you tagged me as "Complainer, Vindictive"

Good work, Pandemonium. Thanks for tracking those down!

[Dukasaur]

Yeah, I will and sorry about that. My computer broke and I've been extremely busy but I'd still like to play. Things are calming down a bit now. Thanks. -Justin

I put Justin3F back in.