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[jay_a2j]

Maybe you should consider upstate NY....right near Jay's neighborhood.


--Andy

Upstate NY is predominately Republican...the ONLY reason the state is "blue" is because of NYC. Yeah move here! lol

So if i started in new york when i'm governor I can give you the chair, and get the republican support...you guys support that dont you?

If you are refering to capital punishment.... we use lethal injection in NY, and whereas many republicans are in favor of the death penalty I am not. Life should be protected from conception to grave. Now most libs are for sparing the life of people who commit hanis crimes yet are in favor of killing innocent babies..... you guys have such heart!

Actually you will see that MOST liberals are not FOR abortion. They are FOR the right of a woman to do it. It is all a small government theory, we shouldn't interfere with their right to choose waht they do with their body. Its also more of a value of quality of life. If your parents don't want you, you will have a shitty life abuse and all that shit. Not to mention that it will happen anyways. Have you seen the pictures of coat hanger abortions. Thos happen alot more than you think in states where its illegal. By legalizing it all your allowing it to be is safe.

Next issue...Euthanasia, what if someone WANTS to die.

And who dictates that a "woman's right to choose" trumps a "childs RIGHT to live"? And you cannot say, "awe you're gonna have a shitty life so I'm killing you". So I guess next we go kill all the homeless guys cause their life is "shitty". When you reach the rank of GOD then you can decide who lives and dies. And at least by being BORN they have a chance at life whether YOU think I'd be shitty or not.

[jay_a2j]

Euthanasia........ The ONLY being that has the RIGHT to take life is GOD. A Doctor's job is to SAVE lives not end them (which is why Kavorkian is behind bars). If people knew what was on the other side, they might not be in such a hurry to die.

[reverend_kyle]

Maybe you should consider upstate NY....right near Jay's neighborhood.


--Andy

Upstate NY is predominately Republican...the ONLY reason the state is "blue" is because of NYC. Yeah move here! lol

So if i started in new york when i'm governor I can give you the chair, and get the republican support...you guys support that dont you?

If you are refering to capital punishment.... we use lethal injection in NY, and whereas many republicans are in favor of the death penalty I am not. Life should be protected from conception to grave. Now most libs are for sparing the life of people who commit hanis crimes yet are in favor of killing innocent babies..... you guys have such heart!

Actually you will see that MOST liberals are not FOR abortion. They are FOR the right of a woman to do it. It is all a small government theory, we shouldn't interfere with their right to choose waht they do with their body. Its also more of a value of quality of life. If your parents don't want you, you will have a shitty life abuse and all that shit. Not to mention that it will happen anyways. Have you seen the pictures of coat hanger abortions. Thos happen alot more than you think in states where its illegal. By legalizing it all your allowing it to be is safe.

Next issue...Euthanasia, what if someone WANTS to die.

And who dictates that a "woman's right to choose" trumps a "childs RIGHT to live"? And you cannot say, "awe you're gonna have a shitty life so I'm killing you". So I guess next we go kill all the homeless guys cause their life is "shitty". When you reach the rank of GOD then you can decide who lives and dies. And at least by being BORN they have a chance at life whether YOU think I'd be shitty or not.

They arent technically alive yet. Also John Locke said that every person is BORN with certain unalieanble rights....so really, even philosophically you dont geth the rights til you are born. We value life over potential life. Or that is how it should be. I didnt even touch on the fact of how it could hurt the woman giving birth.

[reverend_kyle]

Euthanasia........ The ONLY being that has the RIGHT to take life is GOD. A Doctor's job is to SAVE lives not end them (which is why Kavorkian is behind bars). If people knew what was on the other side, they might not be in such a hurry to die.

So what if someone doesnt believe in god. Then they should have the right to die if they want right? I mean if we have the right to live why not have the right to die? Some people just dont want to live, why should we force them?

[reverend_kyle]

Augusta, thorought the site i ahve seen people refer to you as a girl, si that you in your avatar. I thought you were just a guy who had a pciture of a random picture of a girl he thought was hot.. Is that you in your avatar.

[thegrimsleeper]

^^^Hear, hear. Where are the damn suicide booths?!

[thegrimsleeper]

BTW jay, it's spelled conservative, not concervative. You fucking peasant.

[jay_a2j]

Euthanasia........ The ONLY being that has the RIGHT to take life is GOD. A Doctor's job is to SAVE lives not end them (which is why Kavorkian is behind bars). If people knew what was on the other side, they might not be in such a hurry to die.

So what if someone doesnt believe in god. Then they should have the right to die if they want right? I mean if we have the right to live why not have the right to die? Some people just dont want to live, why should we force them?

Not believing in God doesn't make him go away. Life is a gift from God which many believe to be a sin if you take your own life.




You also wrote " They arent technically alive yet. Also John Locke said that every person is BORN with certain unalieanble rights....so really, even philosophically you dont geth the rights til you are born. We value life over potential life. Or that is how it should be. I didnt even touch on the fact of how it could hurt the woman giving birth."


" They arent technically alive yet", says who??? I did a ton of research on abortion in college and am very knoledgable on this subject in paricular. An 8 week old fetus (when most abortions are preformed) has a heatbeat, fingers and toes are forming and there is activity in the brain...its a life.


How can it be a life when it comes out of the womb but not a life a few minutes before when it was still in th womb? It just all the sudden BAMB! became a life? I believe most pro-choice people do believe a fetus is a life, they just don't care. They want their rights and the child will never be able to protest that his/her rights were violated.



When "every person is BORN with certain unalieanble rights" was said, abortion was unheard of. You can't use that as an arguement.

[jay_a2j]

BTW jay, it's spelled conservative, not concervative. You #$^*%#$# peasant.

thanks spelling nazi

[thegrimsleeper]

I just think that someone who tries to pass himself off as intelligent as you do should be able to spell the side he affiliates himself with.

[thegrimsleeper]

jay, if you had the chance to go back in time and abort Hitler, would you do it?

[reverend_kyle]

I just think that someone who tries to pass himself off as intelligent as you do should be able to spell the side he affiliates himself with.

you libarels are such know it alls.

[thegrimsleeper]

Whoa, jay hacked Kyle's account!!!

[jay_a2j]

I just think that someone who tries to pass himself off as intelligent as you do should be able to spell the side he affiliates himself with.

Thanks, but I didn't ask what you thought.

[reverend_kyle]

Euthanasia........ The ONLY being that has the RIGHT to take life is GOD. A Doctor's job is to SAVE lives not end them (which is why Kavorkian is behind bars). If people knew what was on the other side, they might not be in such a hurry to die.

So what if someone doesnt believe in god. Then they should have the right to die if they want right? I mean if we have the right to live why not have the right to die? Some people just dont want to live, why should we force them?

Not believing in God doesn't make him go away. Life is a gift from God which many believe to be a sin if you take your own life.




You also wrote " They arent technically alive yet. Also John Locke said that every person is BORN with certain unalieanble rights....so really, even philosophically you dont geth the rights til you are born. We value life over potential life. Or that is how it should be. I didnt even touch on the fact of how it could hurt the woman giving birth."


" They arent technically alive yet", says who??? I did a ton of research on abortion in college and am very knoledgable on this subject in paricular. An 8 week old fetus (when most abortions are preformed) has a heatbeat, fingers and toes are forming and there is activity in the brain...its a life.


How can it be a life when it comes out of the womb but not a life a few minutes before when it was still in th womb? It just all the sudden BAMB! became a life? I believe most pro-choice people do believe a fetus is a life, they just don't care. They want their rights and the child will never be able to protest that his/her rights were violated.



When "every person is BORN with certain unalieanble rights" was said, abortion was unheard of. You can't use that as an arguement.

Who says god is there in the first place... You cant use that as an arguement to each his own. Who the f*ck cares what god says really. Someone should be able to do what they want you shouldnt legislate their morals based on what YOU belive. Also I heard though it may not be completely accurate that the god that the japanese worship say that it would be more prideful to die by suicide or something of the sort. Who says your god is right and not theirs. You do but to each his own.



So the kid could survive on their own if the mother decided that she didnt want to live anymore? I dont think so... that is not life.

[jay_a2j]

Who says god is there in the first place... You cant use that as an arguement to each his own. Who the f*ck cares what god says really. Someone should be able to do what they want you shouldnt legislate their morals based on what YOU belive. Also I heard though it may not be completely accurate that the god that the japanese worship say that it would be more prideful to die by suicide or something of the sort. Who says your god is right and not theirs. You do but to each his own.



So the kid could survive on their own if the mother decided that she didnt want to live anymore? I dont think so... that is not life.

I'm gonna leave this one alone before lightning strikes or something.

And you were holding a decent debate until you went crazy with this last post. I especially liked, "Who the f*ck cares what god says really." I don't know, someday you can ask Him.

[reverend_kyle]

Who says god is there in the first place... You cant use that as an arguement to each his own. Who the f*ck cares what god says really. Someone should be able to do what they want you shouldnt legislate their morals based on what YOU belive. Also I heard though it may not be completely accurate that the god that the japanese worship say that it would be more prideful to die by suicide or something of the sort. Who says your god is right and not theirs. You do but to each his own.



So the kid could survive on their own if the mother decided that she didnt want to live anymore? I dont think so... that is not life.

I'm gonna leave this one alone before lightning strikes or something.

And you were holding a decent debate until you went crazy with this last post. I especially liked, "Who the f*ck cares what god says really." I don't know, someday you can ask Him.

NOt likely, it's not crazy saying who cares what god says, because quite frankly no one knows. hell no one knows if god even exists. If you are happy believing it than be that way. I believe in god too(being an ordained reverend and all) but even I dont think we should push our god on others.

[jay_a2j]

Who says god is there in the first place... You cant use that as an arguement to each his own. Who the f*ck cares what god says really. Someone should be able to do what they want you shouldnt legislate their morals based on what YOU belive. Also I heard though it may not be completely accurate that the god that the japanese worship say that it would be more prideful to die by suicide or something of the sort. Who says your god is right and not theirs. You do but to each his own.



So the kid could survive on their own if the mother decided that she didnt want to live anymore? I dont think so... that is not life.

I'm gonna leave this one alone before lightning strikes or something.

And you were holding a decent debate until you went crazy with this last post. I especially liked, "Who the f*ck cares what god says really." I don't know, someday you can ask Him.

NOt likely, it's not crazy saying who cares what god says, because quite frankly no one knows. hell no one knows if god even exists. If you are happy believing it than be that way. I believe in god too(being an ordained reverend and all) but even I dont think we should push our god on others.

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not another ordained minister!!!!!!!! Like vtmarik????????? AND at the tender age of 16 HE made it through seminary school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Give me a break! Its after 3am and I have to get up for work (I know the "w" word is a curse word to you lefties but hey. Goodnight.

[reverend_kyle]

Who says god is there in the first place... You cant use that as an arguement to each his own. Who the f*ck cares what god says really. Someone should be able to do what they want you shouldnt legislate their morals based on what YOU belive. Also I heard though it may not be completely accurate that the god that the japanese worship say that it would be more prideful to die by suicide or something of the sort. Who says your god is right and not theirs. You do but to each his own.



So the kid could survive on their own if the mother decided that she didnt want to live anymore? I dont think so... that is not life.

I'm gonna leave this one alone before lightning strikes or something.

And you were holding a decent debate until you went crazy with this last post. I especially liked, "Who the f*ck cares what god says really." I don't know, someday you can ask Him.

NOt likely, it's not crazy saying who cares what god says, because quite frankly no one knows. hell no one knows if god even exists. If you are happy believing it than be that way. I believe in god too(being an ordained reverend and all) but even I dont think we should push our god on others.

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not another ordained minister!!!!!!!! Like vtmarik????????? AND at the tender age of 16 HE made it through seminary school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Give me a break! Its after 3am and I have to get up for work (I know the "w" word is a curse word to you lefties but hey. Goodnight.

Actually i am an ordained reverend. I would photocopy my credentials but you are not worth it.

OH yes work is such a terrible word.. I have work tommorrow also.

[reverend_kyle]

:shock: Whoa, jay hacked Kyle's account!!!

Luckily i got it back, he had the opportunity to make me look STUPID!

[jay_a2j]

:shock: Whoa, jay hacked Kyle's account!!!

Luckily i got it back, he had the opportunity to make me look STUPID!

as if you needed help.

[jay_a2j]

jay, if you had the chance to go back in time and abort Hitler, would you do it?

No..... he wasn't an ass until much later on.

[jay_a2j]

" Actually i am an ordained reverend. I would photocopy my credentials but you are not worth it."


Same "church" as marik? rofl

[Machiavelli]

:shock: Whoa, jay hacked Kyle's account!!!

I dont understand where people learn to do that stuff...


Carry on.

[AndyDufresne]

Well actually I'm an ordainded member of a clergy also...ahem...

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This notice hereby confirms that

<Name and Address edited for privacy>

is a ordained member of the clergy of
The Church of Spiritual Humanism
Date of Ordination: November 27, 2002
Ordained by R. A. Zorger, President
http://www.SpiritualHumanism.org

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Hehe...


--Andy