Trouble at Omega Sector Colony! Mafia --- Weekend 4

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:49 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Colaalone wrote:That is assuming that there are only 3 mafia.
4 mafia members is just as likely...
12 to 4?
In the most prepared mafia game played here?
SFOS Colaalone!

Erratic. Jesus you seem to be sure there are three mafia. FOS MANDALORIAN

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:58 pm

im actually not sure how many mafia there are....as its quite possible there is a single sabatouer on the other ship (which could possibly even be a recruiter of some type) i think its important not to let the probability of a certain number of mafia affect our pattern. I think we still need to attempt to get rid of the mafia however many there are and the only real way to go off that is to eliminate the players that are scummiest.

However for the moment i will unvote mandalorian understanding that i still think he is as scummy if not the scummiest though hes defended himself much better 2nd time around.

I would still like to hear max speak to the fact that hes apparently got some kind of power role that hes not using or never had to begin with.

Colaalone · Post by **Colaalone** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:11 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Colaalone wrote:That is assuming that there are only 3 mafia.
4 mafia members is just as likely...
12 to 4?
In the most prepared mafia game played here?
SFOS Colaalone!

Oh jeez, someone overracted. FOS
I'm just saying 4 mafia members would be 1/4 of the players.
I've seen it before.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:17 pm

Colaalone wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Colaalone wrote:That is assuming that there are only 3 mafia.
4 mafia members is just as likely...
12 to 4?
In the most prepared mafia game played here?
SFOS Colaalone!
Oh jeez, someone overracted. FOS
I'm just saying 4 mafia members would be 1/4 of the players.
I've seen it before.

Ok, I did overract a bit. But 12 vs. 4 seems like overpowering mafia. Alot.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:43 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Colaalone wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Colaalone wrote:That is assuming that there are only 3 mafia.
4 mafia members is just as likely...
12 to 4?
In the most prepared mafia game played here?
SFOS Colaalone!
Oh jeez, someone overracted. FOS
I'm just saying 4 mafia members would be 1/4 of the players.
I've seen it before.
Ok, I did overract a bit. But 12 vs. 4 seems like overpowering mafia. Alot.

Not at all...in eight person games two, sometimes three people are scum.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:08 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Colaalone wrote:That is assuming that there are only 3 mafia.
4 mafia members is just as likely...
12 to 4?
In the most prepared mafia game played here?
SFOS Colaalone!

Terrible. Standard is 1/3. My game had 4 mafia, and you were in it.

Unvote Vote: Mandalorian

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:52 am

I suck.

Oh well, time to role claim. I am the Cop.
I investigated AK and got a Unlynchable townie result, Unrigable and got a townie (well, Colonist) and senfive and got a Priest (wich he should have figured out from the TONS of hints I left in posts directed to him

).

Colaalone · Post by **Colaalone** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:18 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:I suck.
Oh well, time to role claim. I am the Cop.
I investigated AK and got a Unlynchable townie result, Unrigable and got a townie (well, Colonist) and senfive and got a Priest (wich he should have figured out from the TONS of hints I left in posts directed to him ).

So since you never investigated Max, what makes you so sure he isn't mafia?

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:17 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:well since max didnt target anyone as far as anyone knows, there has been no actual verification as has been cited by senfive, but i did get confirmation from the mod on your night activity. So....since you havent come out with what you were doing targeting senfive that night, i so far know that max turned up an investigation on you....that wasnt actually done, and that you target people. So since maxs seemingly only motive for this is to buy himself a free pass as a townie role...you on the other hand targeted someone and therefore seemingly are the mafia player needing to be dealt with first. If you come up scum as i would expect, then we all know where max stands. If max turned up lynch mafia...it wouldnt necesarily prove that you were. Its just much more likely we get two mafia if you are lynched first, then max.

Vote stands.
Well, obvoiusly I was killing senfive.
I will not role claim. This is the options I will give you all:
1. Lynch me
2. SENFIVE you pillock! Read my last two post directed to you, use your brain (if the effort doesn't break it ) and then tell the town I am innocent.

My vote also stands, because I belive got tonked is mafia cop.

Unriggable, why did you unvote, you chicken.

Puff, it was a stupid tactic, but nothing was happening and, as people about to be lynched always say , "I tried to start things up.

As much as I want to believe that the first one was just a lucky guess, I can't because you were pretty good with your second also. It still leaves me with doubt that you could be mafia also. With that being said I am going to unvote and suggest others do the same. Also with no one else who looks real scummy to me at the moment I must default back to the man I wanted to see dead day 1 and was saved for some reason that defies logic.

UNVOTE
VOTE Max_is_great Nyvek he must die to see if he is telling the truth. If not then we know who to go for next.

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:10 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:well since max didnt target anyone as far as anyone knows, there has been no actual verification as has been cited by senfive, but i did get confirmation from the mod on your night activity. So....since you havent come out with what you were doing targeting senfive that night, i so far know that max turned up an investigation on you....that wasnt actually done, and that you target people. So since maxs seemingly only motive for this is to buy himself a free pass as a townie role...you on the other hand targeted someone and therefore seemingly are the mafia player needing to be dealt with first. If you come up scum as i would expect, then we all know where max stands. If max turned up lynch mafia...it wouldnt necesarily prove that you were. Its just much more likely we get two mafia if you are lynched first, then max.

Vote stands.
Well, obvoiusly I was killing senfive.
I will not role claim. This is the options I will give you all:
1. Lynch me
2. SENFIVE you pillock! Read my last two post directed to you, use your brain (if the effort doesn't break it ) and then tell the town I am innocent.

My vote also stands, because I belive got tonked is mafia cop.

Unriggable, why did you unvote, you chicken.

Puff, it was a stupid tactic, but nothing was happening and, as people about to be lynched always say , "I tried to start things up.

You raise a good point. However I still think that tactic is scummy.
Seeing as you want to be lynched AND that you can target people I'm thinking your a power role that is tired of defending himself. Unvote

Colaalone wrote:Wow. How could Max not be mafia?
Got Tonked isn't lying (trust me). He caught Max in a flat out LIE. A lie that protected someone else. FOS MAX AND MANDY.
Though I would be inclined to lynch Max since he has to be mafia.
His investigation on Mandy could have just been a lie, not to protect, but simply trying to avoid conflict with someone who could clear Mandy. Though mandy did counter-protect max saying that Max was telling the truth.

VOTE: MAX

MAX CAN'T BE LYNCHED!!!! We figured that out on day two.

As for got tonkaed yes he is bandwagoning but if he is telling the truth he is a tracker. Because of that I will not vote him. Unless he is lying then I will be very irritated.

I also know that we have no choice we can not go another day without lynching anyone and if this means the deadbeaters get replaced then so be it.

Because of the ever approaching deadline I Vote unriggable

This way we can lynch him this time and hopefully he is scum

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:11 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:I suck.
Oh well, time to role claim. I am the Cop.
I investigated AK and got a Unlynchable townie result, Unrigable and got a townie (well, Colonist) and senfive and got a Priest (wich he should have figured out from the TONS of hints I left in posts directed to him ).

unvote

I did not see that post

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:19 pm

Puff wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:well since max didnt target anyone as far as anyone knows, there has been no actual verification as has been cited by senfive, but i did get confirmation from the mod on your night activity. So....since you havent come out with what you were doing targeting senfive that night, i so far know that max turned up an investigation on you....that wasnt actually done, and that you target people. So since maxs seemingly only motive for this is to buy himself a free pass as a townie role...you on the other hand targeted someone and therefore seemingly are the mafia player needing to be dealt with first. If you come up scum as i would expect, then we all know where max stands. If max turned up lynch mafia...it wouldnt necesarily prove that you were. Its just much more likely we get two mafia if you are lynched first, then max.

Vote stands.
Well, obvoiusly I was killing senfive.
I will not role claim. This is the options I will give you all:
1. Lynch me
2. SENFIVE you pillock! Read my last two post directed to you, use your brain (if the effort doesn't break it ) and then tell the town I am innocent.

My vote also stands, because I belive got tonked is mafia cop.

Unriggable, why did you unvote, you chicken.

Puff, it was a stupid tactic, but nothing was happening and, as people about to be lynched always say , "I tried to start things up.
You raise a good point. However I still think that tactic is scummy.
Seeing as you want to be lynched AND that you can target people I'm thinking your a power role that is tired of defending himself. Unvote

Colaalone wrote:Wow. How could Max not be mafia?
Got Tonked isn't lying (trust me). He caught Max in a flat out LIE. A lie that protected someone else. FOS MAX AND MANDY.
Though I would be inclined to lynch Max since he has to be mafia.
His investigation on Mandy could have just been a lie, not to protect, but simply trying to avoid conflict with someone who could clear Mandy. Though mandy did counter-protect max saying that Max was telling the truth.

VOTE: MAX
MAX CAN'T BE LYNCHED!!!! We figured that out on day two.

As for got tonkaed yes he is bandwagoning but if he is telling the truth he is a tracker. Because of that I will not vote him. Unless he is lying then I will be very irritated.

I also know that we have no choice we can not go another day without lynching anyone and if this means the deadbeaters get replaced then so be it.

Because of the ever approaching deadline I Vote unriggable

This way we can lynch him this time and hopefully he is scum

I investigated unriggable (after we ALMOST lynched him, but didn't have enough votes (because some people weren't posting

). He came out as a green colonist (townie). HOWEVER, he was the only guy I investigated that had no extra power, so it is possible that I am a Naive Cop (wich would be sort of fitting

since I didn't play to well, so far).
vote unriggable to find out if I am naive.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:20 pm

lol
unvote because I didn't see Puff's last post

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:23 pm

Colaalone wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:I suck.
Oh well, time to role claim. I am the Cop.
I investigated AK and got a Unlynchable townie result, Unrigable and got a townie (well, Colonist) and senfive and got a Priest (wich he should have figured out from the TONS of hints I left in posts directed to him ).
So since you never investigated Max, what makes you so sure he isn't mafia?

Him and me were the most suspected players since CBlake got lynched, so I think it would be stupid of him to "prove" his powers by proclaiming me town (remember, every mafia player KNOWS who the townies are)

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:49 pm

i might be a bit dense....but why do we know that max is unlynchable now just because he got a reprieve one time? Certainly i would think that only applied to the single time that they got lynched.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:11 pm

I voted max in the end of week 2 just to get people to explore other options (after he gets lynched), but then Nyvek vetoed it. Judging from low activity on this thread, I say will have another no lynch.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:23 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:I suck.
Oh well, time to role claim. I am the Cop.
I investigated AK and got a Unlynchable townie result, Unrigable and got a townie (well, Colonist) and senfive and got a Priest (wich he should have figured out from the TONS of hints I left in posts directed to him ).

I cant believe no one noticed this! Pro-town cops just get innocent or guilty results. Mafia cops get actual roles, like what he did. The only pro-town role that gets roles is the thief, which he isnt.

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:26 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:I suck.
Oh well, time to role claim. I am the Cop.
I investigated AK and got a Unlynchable townie result, Unrigable and got a townie (well, Colonist) and senfive and got a Priest (wich he should have figured out from the TONS of hints I left in posts directed to him ).
I cant believe no one noticed this! Pro-town cops just get innocent or guilty results. Mafia cops get actual roles, like what he did. The only pro-town role that gets roles is the thief, which he isnt.

that is a good point but how do you know he is not a thief

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:28 pm

He didnt claim thief. He claimed cop.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:33 pm

thats pretty damning evidence mando....any comment

thats why im a mafia noob and your not everywhere....

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:48 pm

everywhere116 wrote:He didnt claim thief. He claimed cop.

true, but maybe he claimed cop because a thief is a more valuable role than a cop.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:50 pm

Why would he do that?

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:52 pm

everywhere116 wrote:Why would he do that?

Puff wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:He didnt claim thief. He claimed cop.
true, but maybe he claimed cop because a thief is a more valuable role than a cop.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:55 pm

That doesnt make sense. Why wouldnt he want to convince the town further by claiming thief?

Puff · Post by **Puff** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:58 pm

everywhere116 wrote:That doesnt make sense. Why wouldnt he want to convince the town further by claiming thief?

your not reading it properly.

If the mafia know he is a thief then they would be sure to kill him. If they know he is a cop then there is a chance the mob may think he is niave or insane