Short time for implemet sugestions on CC

[Qwert]

Now i dont know what need to be done,but some sugestion its now old 5 years. I think that its finaly time that Lack clear all sugestion from 2006 years,and then to move to implement or kick sugestion from submited. These become annoing to watch same sugestions how sit for half decade in forum, and how its aproved from community ,but waith final decision from lack. Its will be good that we have some official counter in each topic,where lack will say something like "THese sugestion will be implement for 5 mont-1 year- 10 year- 100 year"
Or to say "these sugestion its not going to implement never" After that , you can clear sumbited section, and add new number of sugestion to waith lack answer

submited sugestion from year still waiting:
2006--2
2007--3
2008--8
2009--5
2010--18
2011--2

total 38

[AndyDufresne]

I'm in agreement most if not all suggestions take quite a long time (too long) to be added to the website. Hopefully our returning search to a dedicated Web Developer over this Northern Hemisphere Summer can help alleviate the long time delay.


--Andy

[Joodoo]

I'm not trying to act like I'm in control or anything, but I think lack should arrange several days where he simply focuses on going through at least the suggestions from 2006 (that idea of preventing you from accidentally entering your foe's game makes life easier for almost everyone on this site), and then deciding which ones will not be considered. For the ones that are considered, TELL the community approximately how long it will take for it to be implemented instead of giving the community the impression that like the dice, the time it takes for the suggestions to be put in place is random.

On another note, I like how qwert has said "half a decade".

[Sniper08]

I'm in agreement most if not all suggestions take quite a long time (too long) to be added to the website. Hopefully our returning search to a dedicated Web Developer over this Northern Hemisphere Summer can help alleviate the long time delay.


--Andy

we know the last 2 developers lack brought in didnt work out but the community is still frustrated at the suggestions just sitting there for years without any timeline on whether they will be implemented.if lack or you can give us some sort of idea if any suggestion in the submitted forum is gonna get implemented or rejected then it would be appreciated.

[greenoaks]

some feedback on what he has no intention of implementing would be good, some guidance on what he would like to would be great.

On another note, I like how qwert has said "half a decade".

on another, another note, i like your sig.

[AndyDufresne]

I'm in agreement most if not all suggestions take quite a long time (too long) to be added to the website. Hopefully our returning search to a dedicated Web Developer over this Northern Hemisphere Summer can help alleviate the long time delay.


--Andy

we know the last 2 developers lack brought in didnt work out but the community is still frustrated at the suggestions just sitting there for years without any timeline on whether they will be implemented.if lack or you can give us some sort of idea if any suggestion in the submitted forum is gonna get implemented or rejected then it would be appreciated.

Agreed about the frustration---even I am frustrated. It is usually hard to pin-down when something will be done, in terms of time frames, because of shifting priorities. I.E. I know we are going to have some performance updates over this summer, which weren't originally in our minds for this area of 2011. So even if he says something will be implemented, I don't think it gets us all where we want to be---a schedule.

I'll do my best to see when we can really get started on the Web Developer front. It is one of the big areas really holding CC back, and frustrating the Community-at-large.


--Andy

[Qwert]

"Joodoo wrote:
On another note, I like how qwert has said "half a decade"."
What its wrong with these?

Every good sugestion who will improve CC , need to be much faster implemented.
Like i say, LAck need to post in every sumbited sugestion, and give some schedule time, because i belive that he have free time to decide what will be,and when will be implemented.
Otherwise i dont see point of sugestion forum, if Sugestions dont have scedule for implementation. Any sugestion who are accepted from 2006 need to be implemented first in line, then from 2007, and next.

[Joodoo]

"Joodoo wrote:
On another note, I like how qwert has said "half a decade"."
What its wrong with these?

The wording makes me feel like it's a very long period of time.

[Qwert]

make you feel? 5 years or half decade, unfortunatly its true time what pass. Sometime i have feel,that people who give sugestion,maybe will not be live to see these in use.

[greenoaks]

i think your suggestion is a great idea, maybe lack could implement it sometime in the next 4 & 1/2 years.

[Qwert]

well grenoaks,im afraid that these sugestion will also stay in sugestion forum for abouth 3 years before been implemented

[Darwins_Bane]

I like this suggestion, but unfortunately, I do not agree with it. It would be nice to have updates that come out quickly, and it would also be nice to have many if not all of the suggestions come out on the site. However, the reality is that when we pay $25 a year, we aren't exactly paying for a full team of web developers to work here. Actually, the fact that we can support two is nothing short of remarkable (lack is still looking for one, but we could support two is what I mean.). That being said, with only one developer, he has to manage a very delicate balance. This doesn't mean that suggestions is useless, only that it needs to be used differently than you are thinking. If a suggestion makes it through to submitted, that just means that we, the community, are helping Lack get ideas about what to implement next. That doesn't mean he always is going to be working on a suggestion in particular, or that he won't be. He runs this website, and so he prioritizes how he feels he needs to in order to make things work. Sometimes, that means database or server upgrades, or working on a new attachment. The one thing that you have to understand above all else is that each attachment or new addition to the site is always tested extensively before being implemented, so as to ensure that very few to no bugs happen from them. This is another component that requires time, and volunteers in order to work. All this to say, yes, the situation with suggestions and in general is not ideal, but it is what it is. I have seen sites created and then never get another update, because it was just a cash cow until the programmer made another, and I count myself lucky that this is not one of those sites.

[Qwert]

darwin,maybe you dont read what i sugested. I dont say,that things need to be implemented imediatly, but need to have some order, for begining. One developer,know exactly what its need for one sugestion to be implemented,and he can give some informacions to lack,and then he can come here and to say " these sugestion its easy to implement , and its will be implemented in 3 month-6 month-1 year", or if something its hard to implement he can come and say " These sugestion its hard to implement ,because can couse some problems"
In these way,people can have some informacions, knowing that some sugestion have any chance to be implemented in some period,instead to posting ,for years, asking same question "these sugestion are good ,when will be implemented?"
Now if you think that its not possible that Lack take some little time and to post in some topic who have been in forum for 3-5 years, i will not belive in that, hell even dont need to lack post, these can post someone who are with conneciton with lack.

[Darwins_Bane]

What if you give a time, and then need to move it, because of an emergency, or real life, or any reason? Wouldn't people be even more pissed off then? They would see it as not fulfilling an agreement. As well, why should the oldest suggestions need to go first? Some of them may require more work or more testing than others. If lack isn't able to prioritize which things to do in what order, that would probably make waiting even longer.

[Qwert]

if you dont have scedule,then you are not obigated to implement,because you have infinity time. If some sugestion its here for 5 years,then these mean that hes priority its very low,because something what seems to have high value to CC,will not sit for 5 years in CC.
At least will be good,that people know what sugestion its in way to be implemented,because we realy dont know what its in scedule to be implemented. Ofcourse if you think that people dont need to know that, then i dont see purpose of Community to give sugestions( who will improve CC), when nobody from high places, dont want to post,and to give clear answer" Will be implemented" " no implementation"
I dont have nothing against Random Medal, but i dont see how its these have priority over much better sugestions.

[Darwins_Bane]

The purpose of suggestions isn't to make sure that something is going to be implemented. Rather, it's purpose is to provide lack with a bunch of ideas that he may not have thought of. Then he looks at some of them as well as a list of priorities he has, and decides what to work on next. I don't pretend to be a part of that decision process, but I do know that sometimes, its much easier to put through two or three small suggestions than spend a lot of time working on one big one. Look at how long clickable maps took. Sometimes, I think that no one but lack knows what he's working on next. But all, this to say, I think this is a good suggestion in theory, I just think that it is misguided. I've worked in a tech department before, so I'm just trying to give a reason to whats going on. On the other note of your response, we already have something like your suggestion of "going to be implemented" or "not going to be implemented", which is the submitted, and archived suggestions.

[Qwert]

when you say,in these way,i have feel that lack know everything,and that all sugestion what community give,its opsolite, because in the end lack again decide what will be or not be implemented, and like you say, lack only need some forum ,so that people can spend time writing,something, what will,maybe,one day, years ,decade, will be implement.
I can bet that now in submited section,you have 20 sugestion,who are easy to implement, but for these need some expert to say,not me.
You and other green guys dont decide what will be,and what not will be implemented, or maybe im wrong again.

[Darwins_Bane]

No we have no say in what is or isn't implemented. Our job is just to help guide suggestions to getting to submitted, or not. Although suggestions can seem really simple to complete, even a really simple suggestion could interact in a funny way with something else and suddenly, you have to figure out why the new part isn't working with the rest of the site.

[TheForgivenOne]

You and other green guys dont decide what will be,and what not will be implemented, or maybe im wrong again.

We have absolutely NO say in what goes into implemented or not. If we did, don't you think we'd only put stuff we like in there? Multiple suggestions currently sitting in Submitted, I disliked, but it's not my job to pick what is good or bad. It's the community's job to give support, review on what could be fixed, or to say they don't like it. We, as users, are allowed to say if we like something or not, but that doesn't mean we get to reject it based on personal opinion.

[Qwert]

misunderstanding, i meant to say that you and other greens, are only work on moving sugestions to submited, or rejected, and that lack can decide what will be implemented or not. Your job its ok, and efective.