Baltic States [3/10] V33 P34 Beta!!

[Bruceswar]

I'm glad to see somebody pick up a map of The Baltics; there was a reasonable draft that somebody started once before, but it never ended up going anywhere - I'm assuming you're looked up the old thread?

I check all 3 threads....

Scania13

Captain Walrus

and the one with the draft still there.

I took a look at all the concerns with those maps. I am working on impassables, names etc. I want to keep pressing with the issues at hand and work from there.

[Bruceswar]

You should submit a design brief.

Good Call I will get on this.

[amazzony]

My suggestions for remaining Latvia (cities):

Latvia 1 -> Daugavpils
Latvia 2 -> Kraslava
Latvia 3 -> Ludza
Latvia 4 -> Rēzekne
Latvia 5 -> Balvi
Latvia 6 -> Jēkabpils
Latvia 9 -> Nereta
Latvia 10 -> Ogre
Latvia 12 -> Valka
Latvia 13 -> Valmiera
Latvia 19 -> Saldus
Latvia 22 -> Kuldīga
Jelgava -> Dobele

Used this map, it should be quite accurate: http://www.atozmapsdata.com/zoomify.asp ... atvia_Pol2

Hope it will help.

[AndyDufresne]

As always---if you need name and language assistance, check CC's scoreboard for someone living in the region. Most of the time people have proved eager to help when they've been notified about such things!


--Andy

[thenobodies80]

Bruce, how is it going with this one?

[grifftron]

cool map bruce, just seen it off your sig and thought i would check it out, ill follow and hopefully can suggest some things later on.

-griff

[Bruceswar]

Bruce, how is it going with this one?

Once I get past whac a mod I had another update coming. 136 games tied me up for a bit... I am not letting this one go.

[eurosport]

My suggestions for remaining Latvia (cities):

Latvia 1 -> Daugavpils
Latvia 2 -> Kraslava
Latvia 3 -> Ludza
Latvia 4 -> Rēzekne
Latvia 5 -> Balvi
Latvia 6 -> Jēkabpils
Latvia 9 -> Nereta
Latvia 10 -> Ogre
Latvia 12 -> Valka
Latvia 13 -> Valmiera
Latvia 19 -> Saldus
Latvia 22 -> Kuldīga
Jelgava -> Dobele

I'm from Latvia and can tell that amazzony is correct. i can only make a little bit correction with writing if you want it in native language. To be correct it was only one correction, other corrections is for towns and cities which are already written in the map.
Oh and made one change of a town - Nereta for Aizkraukle (more known and bigger)
And don't change Dobele for Jelgava as Jelgava is bigger and more known town.

Latvia 1 -> Daugavpils
Latvia 2 -> Krāslava
Latvia 3 -> Ludza
Latvia 4 -> Rēzekne
Latvia 5 -> Balvi
Latvia 6 -> Jēkabpils
Latvia 9 -> Aizkraukle
Latvia 10 -> Ogre
Latvia 12 -> Valka
Latvia 13 -> Valmiera
Latvia 19 -> Saldus
Latvia 22 -> Kuldīga
Riga - Rīga
Limbazi - Limbaži
Cesis - Cēsis
Liepaja - Liepāja

Maybe you don't want to use those macrons and soft signs then just write without them

[Bruceswar]

Version 5:

All names added or fixed
New Title Graphic

Click image to enlarge.

[Bruceswar]

I few quick points...

1. Which rivers are most important?
2. How readable is the font at current for the territory names?
3. How should the bonuses be named? Any suggestions?
4. Anything else you can see that needs to be done right now?

[natty dread]

I few quick points...

1. Which rivers are most important?
2. How readable is the font at current for the territory names?

1. Use the rivers that fit the gameplay best. That's what I usually do.
2. It's a bit small. You could try other options... Also, you could reduce the opacity of the glow under the text somewhat.

[eurosport]

I few quick points...

1. Which rivers are most important?
2. How readable is the font at current for the territory names?
3. How should the bonuses be named? Any suggestions?

1. http://www.raid.lv/laivas/upes/karte_latvijas.gif - these are the biggest rivers in Latvia
2. It is readable but maybe can find little better font.
3. Maybe you can divide bonuses other way in Latvia.. as in Latvia there are 5 regions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administra ... _of_Latvia) and you could divide it by them and name by them how it is in real life.
example:
Riga region - Rīga, Ogre, Limbaži, Tukums
Kurzeme region - Ventspils, Liepāja, Kuldīga, Saldus, Talsi
Vidzeme region - Cēsis, Valmiera, Valka, Madona, Gulbene
Zemgale region - Jelgava, Bauska, Aizkraukle, Jēkabpils
Latgale region - Daugavpils, Krāslava, Rēzekne, Ludza, Balvi

just suggestion if you want it more as in real life.

[Industrial Helix]

Let's get that legend filled out and labeled and then we can get this one into gameplay.

[Bruceswar]

sure thing... I need to add in some more impassables etc. I will have the next version within this week. Thanks for sticky me!

[Bruceswar]

Changes:
Re sized the map for less dead space.
Added more impassables (The rest can be talked about in game play)
Labeled the Legend and shifted it around some.
Rivers added in (See above about impassables.)
Moved things around to work in the new dimensions.
Removed the grunge for now until I decide what I want to do with it.

Next Level?

To Do:
New fonts for most everything (Any ideas would be great)
Add in more graphical touches.
Rename the bonus regions. (Any Ideas would be great)
Change the color of West Latvia to something else. Pinkish perhaps.
Army Circles? To add or not to add?

Click image to enlarge.

[natty dread]

Your image is 9 pixels over the normal limit... You can probably crop a bit from the upper edge to get the map to 800.

[Bruceswar]

does the supersize map sizes not cover that?

* Standard maximum sizes: 630x600 pixels for a small map and 840x800 pixels for a large map.
* SuperSize limits: 1000x800 pixels for a small map, and 1400x1200 pixels for a large map

1400 x 1200?

I know it is only 9 pixels, but I am just wondering.


BTW thanks for pointing that out.

[natty dread]

You only get supersize if your map needs it. This map can easily fit in the normal limits.

[Bruceswar]

updated to 800 pixels.

[koontz1973]

Rename the bonus regions. (Any Ideas would be great)
Change the color of West Latvia to something else. Pinkish perhaps.
Army Circles? To add or not to add?

No idea on the names but they do seem OK, as long as they are not figments of your imagination.
Do not change the colour or it will be to close to East Latvia. It looks fine as it is and melds nicely in with the colour above. It is the big block of red next to it that seems out of place. Try it less bold. And see how that works.
Add the circles. Even if you use the normal 22 pixel army circle png, you will see how it all fits into territs.

[AndyDufresne]

For Bonus Region/Zone names, I suggest contacting a couple of the about 50 people on Conquer Club with their Flag currently as either Latvia, Lithuania, or Estonia. I'm sure they have some invaluable input when it comes to names!


--Andy

[isaiah40]

Your image is 9 pixels over the normal limit... You can probably crop a bit from the upper edge to get the map to 800.

does the supersize map sizes not cover that?

* Standard maximum sizes: 630x600 pixels for a small map and 840x800 pixels for a large map.
* SuperSize limits: 1000x800 pixels for a small map, and 1400x1200 pixels for a large map

1400 x 1200?

I know it is only 9 pixels, but I am just wondering.


BTW thanks for pointing that out.

Actually, this is 26x200 pixels over the size limit for the small map. But I see no reason as to let this stay as a supersize small for clarity reasons. Do as natty suggested by moving your legend over to the left and then crop it. This should get you down to 630x800. The large will have to be made while in graphics. So you would be able to have the large at 840x1077. You could get it a little smaller by moving the legend up a bit before you crop it.

I'll give the gameplay a look over later, so other than the map size fix, this is looking good. keep up the good work!!

[natty dread]

Actually, this is 26x200 pixels over the size limit for the small map. But I see no reason as to let this stay as a supersize small for clarity reasons. Do as natty suggested by moving your legend over to the left and then crop it. This should get you down to 630x800. The large will have to be made while in graphics. So you would be able to have the large at 840x1077. You could get it a little smaller by moving the legend up a bit before you crop it.

I'll give the gameplay a look over later, so other than the map size fix, this is looking good. keep up the good work!!

What... no... he's working on the large image, which can be 840x800. He already cropped it down to 800 so it's ok.

[isaiah40]

What... no... he's working on the large image, which can be 840x800. He already cropped it down to 800 so it's ok.

Just double checked. The map size is at 656x800, which is over the 630x600 for the small. If this is the large then the small would be at 433x528 approximately. A little small for readability and clarity. So that being said, this map is okay for the supersize small. Bruce just needs to make the large when he gets into graphics.

[natty dread]

Just double checked. The map size is at 656x800, which is over the 630x600 for the small. If this is the large then the small would be at 433x528 approximately.

If the large is 656x800 then the small would be 492x600.