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Postby Qwert on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:29 pm

well if we look in present bigest country by terittory that is Russia.
And i think that everybody know who gets World domination, and these definitly not England. :wink:
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:34 pm

hulmey wrote:FACT: British Empire where the sun never set is the biggest and longest empire in the World...

And of course those annoying yankees are by birth mostly English unwanteds or convicts ehheheheheh...

So World domination by England is still continuing,

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND THE SUNDAY ROAST


Ethnically speaking Germans are the biggest ethnic group in the USA with more than 66 million people of German origin.

The Roman Empire lasted much more than the British Empire or any other empire for that matter.

The British Empire was the biggest one and indeed the sun never used to set on the British Empire. Damn I wish the British were still a super power. I prefer them to Bush. :(
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All empires

Postby MarVal on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:36 pm

All empires
British Empire - 36.6 million kmĀ²[1] (under King George V in 1921) (excludes Antarctic territorial claims)
Mongol Empire - 33.2 million kmĀ²[1] (under Khublai Khan in 1279) (excludes Northern Siberia)
Russian Empire - 22.8 million kmĀ²[2][3]) (under Nicholas II in 1895)
Spanish Empire - 19 million kmĀ²[1] (under King Charles III)
Arab Empire - 13.2 million kmĀ²[1] (under the Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I)
French Empire - 12,9 million kmĀ²[1]
Qing Empire - 12 million kmĀ²[4] (under Emperor Qianlong)
Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million kmĀ²[1]
American Empire - 10 million kmĀ² [5] (1898-1902 and 1906-1908)
Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million kmĀ²[6] (under Darius the Great)
Japanese Empire - 7.4 million kmĀ²[1] (during World War II)
Ming Empire - 6.5 million kmĀ²[2]
Han Empire - 6 million kmĀ²[2]
Ottoman Empire - 5.6 million kmĀ²[1]
Roman Empire - 5.6 million kmĀ²[1] (under Emperor Trajan)
Tang Empire - 5.4 million kmĀ²[2] (under Emperor Xuanzong of Tang)
Macedonian Empire - 5.4 million kmĀ²[1] (under Alexander the Great)
Maurya Empire - 5 million kmĀ²[2] (under Ashoka the Great)
Mexican Empire - 4.7 million kmĀ²[1]
Timurid Empire - 4.4 million kmĀ²[2]
Mughal Empire - 4 million kmĀ²[2] (under Aurangzeb)
Hunnic Empire - 4 million kmĀ²[2] (under Attila the Hun)
Seljuq Empire - 3.9 million kmĀ²[2]
Seleucid Empire - 3.9 million kmĀ²[1]
Italian Empire - 3.8 million kmĀ² (during World War II)
Dutch Empire - 3.7 million kmĀ²[1]
Nazi German Empire - 3.6 million kmĀ²[1] (during World War II)
Gupta Empire - 3.5 million kmĀ²[2] (under Chandragupta II)
Sassanid Persian Empire - 3.5 million kmĀ²[2] (under Khosrau I)
Ghaznavid Empire - 3.4 million kmĀ²[2]
Pala Empire - 3.2 million kmĀ²[7] (under Devapala)
Delhi Sultanate - 3.2 million kmĀ²[2]
Khazar Empire - 3 million kmĀ²[2]
Median Empire - 2.8 million kmĀ²[2]
Byzantine Empire - 2.7 million kmĀ²[2]
Chola Empire - 2.6 million kmĀ²[8] (under Rajendra Chola I)
Belgian Empire - 2.5 million kmĀ²[2]
Inca Empire - 2 million kmĀ²[2]
Majapahit Empire - 1.5 million kmĀ²[9]
Neo-Assyrian Empire - 1.4 million kmĀ²[2]
Aksumite Empire - 1.3 million kmĀ²[2]
Srivijaya Empire - 1.2 million kmĀ²[2]
Frankish Empire - 1.2 million kmĀ²[2]
Harsha Empire - 1 million kmĀ²[2] (under Harsha Vardhana)
Egyptian Empire - 1 million kmĀ²[2]
Almoravid Empire - 1 million kmĀ²[2]
Khmer Empire - 1 million kmĀ²[2]
Akkadian Empire - 650,000 kmĀ²[10]
Nanda Empire - 600,000 kmĀ²[11]
Austro-Hungarian Empire - 600,000 kmĀ²[12]
Neo-Babylonian Empire - 500,000 kmĀ²[10]
Vijayanagara Empire - 360,000 kmĀ²[13]

Contiguous empires
Mongol Empire - 33.2 million kmĀ² (under Khublai Khan in 1279)
Russian Empire - 22.8 million kmĀ² (under Alexander II in 1867)
Arab Empire - 13.2 million kmĀ² (under the Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I)
French Empire - 12,9 million kmĀ²[1]
Qing Empire - 12 million kmĀ² (under Emperor Qianlong)
Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million kmĀ² (under Darius the Great)
Ming Empire - 6.5 million kmĀ²
Han Empire - 6 million kmĀ²
Ottoman Empire - 5.6 million kmĀ²
Roman Empire - 5.6 million kmĀ² (under Emperor Trajan)
Tang Empire - 5.4 million kmĀ²
Macedonian Empire - 5.4 million kmĀ² (under Alexander the Great)
Maurya Empire - 5 million kmĀ² (under Ashoka the Great)
Mughal Empire - 4 million kmĀ² (under Aurangzeb)
Hunnic Empire - 4 million kmĀ² (under Attila the Hun)
Seljuq Empire - 3.9 million kmĀ²
Seleucid Empire - 3.9 million kmĀ²
Nazi German Empire - 3.6 million kmĀ² (during World War II)
Gupta Empire - 3.5 million kmĀ² (under Chandragupta II)
Sassanid Persian Empire - 3.5 million kmĀ² (under Khosrau I)
Ghaznavid Empire - 3.4 million kmĀ²
Pala Empire - 3.2 million kmĀ² (under Devapala)
Delhi Sultanate - 3.2 million kmĀ²
Khazar Empire - 3 million kmĀ²
Median Empire - 2.8 million kmĀ²
Byzantine Empire - 2.7 million kmĀ²
Inca Empire - 2 million kmĀ²
Neo-Assyrian Empire - 1.4 million kmĀ²
Aksumite Empire - 1.3 million kmĀ²
Frankish Empire - 1.2 million kmĀ²
Harsha Empire - 1 million kmĀ² (under Harsha Vardhana)
Egyptian Empire - 1 million kmĀ²
Almoravid Empire - 1 million kmĀ²
Khmer Empire - 1 million kmĀ²
Akkadian Empire - 650,000 kmĀ²
Nanda Empire - 600,000 kmĀ²
Austro-Hungarian Empire - 600,000 kmĀ²
Neo-Babylonian Empire - 500,000 kmĀ²
Vijayanagara Empire - 360,000 kmĀ²

Overseas empires
British Empire - 36.6 million kmĀ² (under King George V in 1921)
Spanish Empire - 19 million kmĀ² (under King Phillip II)
French Empire - 12,9 million kmĀ²
Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million kmĀ²
American Empire - 10 million kmĀ² (1898-1902 and 1906-1908)
Japanese Empire - 7.4 million kmĀ² (during World War II)
Italian Empire - 3.8 million kmĀ² (during World War II)
Dutch Empire - 3.7 million kmĀ²
Chola Empire - 2.6 million kmĀ² (under Rajendra Chola I)
Belgian Empire - 2.5 million kmĀ²
Majapahit Empire - 1.5 million kmĀ²
Srivijaya Empire - 1.2 million kmĀ²

Ancient empires
Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million kmĀ² (under Darius the Great)
Han Empire - 6 million kmĀ²
Roman Empire - 5.6 million kmĀ² (under Emperor Trajan)
Macedonian Empire - 5.4 million kmĀ² (under Alexander the Great)
Maurya Empire - 5 million kmĀ² (under Ashoka the Great)
Hunnic Empire - 4 million kmĀ² (under Attila the Hun)
Seleucid Empire - 3.9 million kmĀ²
Gupta Empire - 3.5 million kmĀ² (under Chandragupta II)
Sassanid Persian Empire - 3.5 million kmĀ² (under Khosrau I)
Median Empire - 2.8 million kmĀ²
Neo-Assyrian Empire - 1.4 million kmĀ²
Aksumite Empire - 1.3 million kmĀ²
Egyptian Empire - 1 million kmĀ²
Akkadian Empire - 650,000 kmĀ²
Nanda Empire - 600,000 kmĀ²
Neo-Babylonian Empire - 500,000 kmĀ²

Medieval empires
Mongol Empire - 33.2 million kmĀ² (under Khublai Khan in 1279)
Tang Empire - 14 million kmĀ²
Arab Empire - 13.2 million kmĀ² (under the Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I)
Ming Empire - 6.5 million kmĀ²
Ottoman Empire - 5.6 million kmĀ²
Mughal Empire - 4 million kmĀ² (under Aurangzeb)
Seljuq Empire - 3.9 million kmĀ²
Sassanid Persian Empire - 3.5 million kmĀ² (under Khosrau I)
Ghaznavid Empire - 3.4 million kmĀ²
Pala Empire - 3.2 million kmĀ² (under Devapala)
Delhi Sultanate - 3.2 million kmĀ²
Khazar Empire - 3 million kmĀ²
Byzantine Empire - 2.7 million kmĀ²
Chola Empire - 2.6 million kmĀ² (under Rajendra Chola I in 1030)
Inca Empire - 2 million kmĀ²
Majapahit Empire - 1.5 million kmĀ²
Aksumite/Ethiopian Empire - 1.3 million kmĀ²
Srivijaya Empire - 1.2 million kmĀ²
Frankish Empire - 1.2 million kmĀ²
Mali Empire - 1.1 million kmĀ²
Harsha Empire - 1 million kmĀ² (under Harsha Vardhana)
Almoravid Empire - 1 million kmĀ²
Khmer Empire - 1 million kmĀ²
Vijayanagara Empire - 360,000 kmĀ²

Modern empires
British Empire - 36.6 million kmĀ² (under King George V in 1921)
Russian Empire - 22.8 million kmĀ² (under Alexander II in 1867)
Spanish Empire - 19 million kmĀ² (under Charles III)
Qing Empire - 12 million kmĀ² (under Emperor Qianlong)
French Empire - 12,9 million kmĀ²
Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million kmĀ²
American Empire - 10 million kmĀ² (1898-1902 and 1906-1908)
Japanese Empire - 7.4 million kmĀ² (during World War II)
Ottoman Empire - 5.6 million kmĀ²
Mughal Empire - 4 million kmĀ²
Italian Empire - 3.8 million kmĀ² (during World War II)
Dutch Empire - 3.7 million kmĀ²
Nazi German Empire - 3.6 million kmĀ² (during World War II)
Belgian Empire - 2.5 million kmĀ²
Austro-Hungarian Empire - 600,000 kmĀ²

Grtz
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Postby nagerous on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:39 pm

sure the British empire was huge, I'm British, doesn't mean I'm proud of the fact that we colonised hundreds of countries, treating their residents like slaves, working for our own will, whilst white aristocrats back in england can reap the benefits and the rewards. Its the arrogant people that make me sick to even state that im of white British origin, and don't even get me started on America....
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:47 pm

Nice stats Marval. But anyway the Mongols were savages not a civilised empire like the Romans or the Brits.
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Postby hulmey on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:55 pm

Thats veru unpatrotic my friend^^^^^........

The english never made anybody slaves and treated their colonised countries very well....

Of course this could turn into a huge debate where nobody is gonna c eye to eye on the issue.

I am half maltese and half english and i am proud of both my countries....Malta was a colonsied country that won the highest order that can be given to any country or human in time of war our peace (The George Cross).

The maltese paid a high price for helping the allies win the World War 2, it being the most bombed country in the war from the axis powers. But they still have huge respect for the english.
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Postby AndrewB on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:57 pm

Wow, LOL, what have I started!

Aren't we here to discuss qwert's map? ;)
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Postby hulmey on Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:57 pm

Edit note:

Even the brutal and small German Empire brought benefits and has shaped the world we live in!!!
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Postby Enigma on Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:14 pm

GreecePwns wrote:And we greeks once ruled the world (Alexander was GREEK, NOT MACEDONIAN!)

Not that we're arrogant or anything...

um, im pretty sure his father was King Philip of Macedon if i remember correctly.. .. ..

hehe ruben ceasar- at this rate ur def gonna loose your bet.
Do you need an excuse to have a war? I mean, who for? Can't you just say "You got lots of cash and land, but I've got a big sword, so divy up right now, chop chop."
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Postby ClessAlvein on Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:24 am

hulmey wrote:Thats veru unpatrotic my friend^^^^^........

The english never made anybody slaves and treated their colonised countries very well....


I really hope you're joking. Never made anybody slaves? Try looking in Africa from 16th century to the 18th century. The British were responsible for many of the greatest atrocities in the world, including heavily dealing in the African and Latin American slave trade, economically exploiting the vast majority of their colonies, completely ruining India's economic infrastructure by utterly destroying their textile industry through both one-way tariffs and outright looting... every country has its own fair share of dirty history, and I'm not denying that the British have made great strides in advancing human civilization, but you can't outright deny British slavery like it never happened or that all was fine and dandy in the colonies. The United States of America certainly didn't think they were being treated very well.
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Postby Enigma on Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:18 am

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hulmey wrote:Thats veru unpatrotic my friend^^^^^........

The english never made anybody slaves and treated their colonised countries very well....


I really hope you're joking. Never made anybody slaves? Try looking in Africa from 16th century to the 18th century. The British were responsible for many of the greatest atrocities in the world, including heavily dealing in the African and Latin American slave trade, economically exploiting the vast majority of their colonies, completely ruining India's economic infrastructure by utterly destroying their textile industry through both one-way tariffs and outright looting... every country has its own fair share of dirty history, and I'm not denying that the British have made great strides in advancing human civilization, but you can't outright deny British slavery like it never happened or that all was fine and dandy in the colonies. The United States of America certainly didn't think they were being treated very well.

to add to the list of atrocities they imported opium to the the chinese against the laws of the current emperor, in order to build a nation full of addicts who would provide the british empire with cash. an equally awful version of slavery.
clarification though cless, the british colonies in NA didnt think they were being treated justly. at that point they werent yet the usa.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:40 am

The problem is that history is history and it must be looked at in context. We cannot judge the bad things the British did in those days with today's mentality. It was a different world with different rules.

People tend to focus a lot on the bad things the British did, but the good things they did far outstrip the bad ones. And hey I live in Malta, a former colony. Then again I guess we were treated better than other colonies as we are Europeans.

Still the world must thank Britain every day for holding single handedly the Nazis at the start of World War II and basically losing its Empire in the process. It did not save only itself in that war...it saved the world.
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Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:05 am

Ruben Red Army have more earnings then others Ally, dont forget 2/3 of german army fight in eastern front, and huge casulty german have in eastern front. Who knows what will hepend that insted Italy German have Soviet union for ally.
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Postby hulmey on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:19 am

God forbide....It was Hitler's biggest mistake. Arrogance .
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Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:30 am

Yes he want to fight against Soviet union, do you know that these country every month have ready 500000 soldier for fight against germany.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:46 am

qwert wrote:Ruben Red Army have more earnings then others Ally, dont forget 2/3 of german army fight in eastern front, and huge casulty german have in eastern front. Who knows what will hepend that insted Italy German have Soviet union for ally.


I know qwert. The Russians won World War II. I always say that to everyone. Don't forget that Russia lost more people than all the other countries put together. 27 million Russians died in World War II.

However at the start it was Great Britain alone against the Germans. The Russians had a non aggression pact with Germany and France had already fallen. If it wasn't for them Hitler would have conquered all of Europe and it would have been a different story...
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Postby hulmey on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:57 am

Nice one Ruben :D :D

The Russian's produce alot of men but WHERE they soldiers or mere boys and girls!!!!

Did Germany lose the war with Russia because of the Russain bad weather in the Winter. More German Soldiers died of Starvation (cut off supplies due to weather conditions) and weather conditions than where killed by the Russian Red Army!!!!!
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:09 am

hulmey wrote:Nice one Ruben :D :D

The Russian's produce alot of men but WHERE they soldiers or mere boys and girls!!!!

Did Germany lose the war with Russia because of the Russain bad weather in the Winter. More German Soldiers died of Starvation (cut off supplies due to weather conditions) and weather conditions than where killed by the Russian Red Army!!!!!


No Hulmey. The Russian soldiers were as tough as nails. Probably the toughest of all World War II. Unfortunately they were poorly armed and trained. It wasn't only the cold weather my friend. As I said in other threads...no one can beat the Russian bear. :)
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Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:30 am

Yup hulmey, if Russian waith winter to kill germans , the germans will win :wink:
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Postby Balsiefen on Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:26 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:
qwert wrote:Ruben Red Army have more earnings then others Ally, dont forget 2/3 of german army fight in eastern front, and huge casulty german have in eastern front. Who knows what will hepend that insted Italy German have Soviet union for ally.


I know qwert. The Russians won World War II. I always say that to everyone. Don't forget that Russia lost more people than all the other countries put together. 27 million Russians died in World War II.

However at the start it was Great Britain alone against the Germans. The Russians had a non aggression pact with Germany and France had already fallen. If it wasn't for them Hitler would have conquered all of Europe and it would have been a different story...


i agree, if we had lost the battle of britain america wouldnt have declaired war and germany would have sent a full force into russia
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:41 am

Balsiefen wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:
qwert wrote:Ruben Red Army have more earnings then others Ally, dont forget 2/3 of german army fight in eastern front, and huge casulty german have in eastern front. Who knows what will hepend that insted Italy German have Soviet union for ally.


I know qwert. The Russians won World War II. I always say that to everyone. Don't forget that Russia lost more people than all the other countries put together. 27 million Russians died in World War II.

However at the start it was Great Britain alone against the Germans. The Russians had a non aggression pact with Germany and France had already fallen. If it wasn't for them Hitler would have conquered all of Europe and it would have been a different story...


i agree, if we had lost the battle of britain america wouldnt have declaired war and germany would have sent a full force into russia


Thank God for the English channel and radar! ;) Britain was unprepared at the start of the war and sometimes I think that if it was connected to mainland Europe it would probably have fallen under Nazi hands.
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Postby Qwert on Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:05 am

Yup, they just comitt blickreig to england, but germans not prepared for invasion like ally in 1944. But i olvey dont understand, why Germans stop hes atack in Dunkerk, you know he can capture 350000 england soldier if he dont stop with atack progres.
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Postby boberz on Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:17 am

yeah at last something we all agree on and not only that it is a very interesting subject. The real winners of the war were Russia and USA who both became superpowers at the end of the war. The rest of us are screwed compared to where we were.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:33 am

qwert wrote:Yup, they just comitt blickreig to england, but germans not prepared for invasion like ally in 1944. But i olvey dont understand, why Germans stop hes atack in Dunkerk, you know he can capture 350000 england soldier if he dont stop with atack progres.


Hitler loved the English. Ethnically speaking the Angles and the Saxons originated from Germany. The English are Aryan. Hitler would have liked to forge an alliance with Britain as they were both Aryan nations (the superior race according to him). Then they could dominate the world. That's why he let them go at Dunkirk. He was still hoping he could forge this alliance. But the British did not accept of course and fought on. Note that even in prison camps the Germans respected the English much more than the Slavs or other ethnic groups which they considered inferior.
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Postby spinwizard on Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:36 am

the Uckrainiens (sp) lost the 2nd most amount of ppl in WW2
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