by Chuuuuck on Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:20 pm
lokisgal keeps making several references in game chat that our numbers and BOB outputs are incorrect because BOB is not always 100% right. So I have taken the time to outline the FACTS of the hive game that can be verified by every single person who wishes to take the time to do so by simply looking at the game log. The game log is not effected by BOB and can not be changed by anyone, so to me, this is all pretty indisputable.
The turn that experienced the glitch was lokisgal's turn at the end of round 4.
At the end of round 3, lokisgal took her turn, she started with 34 territories and conquered 6, ending her turn with 40 territories. Between that turn and her next turn she lost 11 territories giving her 29 territories at the time of the turn in question.
Slowreactor took his turn next. At the beginning of his turn he had 30 territories, he conquered 13 territories giving him 43 territories at the end of his turn. He then lost 13 territories giving him 30 territories at the time of the turn in question.
Forza AZ took his turn next. At the beginning of his turn he had 31 territories, he conquered 7 territories giving him 38 territories at the end of his turn. He then lost 13 territories giving him a total of 25 territories at the time of the turn in question.
Chuuuuck took his turn enxt. At the beginning of his turn he had 40 territories, he conquered 6 territories giving him 46 territories at the end of his turn. He then lost 4 territories giving him a total of 42 territories at the time of the turn in question.
Aaarrrrggh took his turn next. At the beginning of his turn he had 32 territories, he conquered 7 territories giving him 39 territories at the end of his turn. He then lost 3 territories giving him a total of 36 territories at the time of the turn in question.
lord voldemort took his turn next. At the beginning of his turn he had 42 territories, he conquered 15 territories giving him 57 territories at the end of his turn. He then lost 0 territories giving him a total 57 territories at the time of the turn in question.
Jboy took his turn next. At the beginning of his turn he had 49 territories, he conquered 10 territories giving him 59 territories at the end of his turn. He then lost 0 territories giving him a total of 59 territories at the time of the turn in qeustion.
jj3044 took his turn next. At the beginning of his turn he had 60 territories, he conquered 6 territories giving him 66 territories at the time of the turn in question since lokisgal played next.
That totals up to the following:
Team 1 - 195
Red - Chuuuuck - 42
Green - lord voldemort - 57
Blue - jj3044 - 66
Yellow - SlowReactor - 30
Team 2 - 149
Pink - Aaarrrrggh - 36
Teal - Jboy - 59
Orange - lokisgal - 29
Smoke - Forza AZ - 25
Unfortunately, the site experienced a glitch and lokisgal did not get her deploy or attack phase in the 4th round. She missed out on a 9 deploy and an attack phase. We discussed options in chat about all of us starting and timing out until it got back to lokisgal. Unfortunately, slowreactor was having internet problems and hurried and took his turn when he logged on so he didn't lose internet in the middle of turn, ruining any plan to have everyone time out. We then tried to further discuss solutions and Forza AZ hurried and took his turn shortly afterwards because he thought we weren't going to do anything since slowreactor took his turn. Chuuuuck then announced to be fair, he would time out and we would play the game as is from there thinking that Empire was taking on the bigger disadvantage here because we lost out on a 12 deploy as well as our attack phase also. Loki then made claims that this still did not remedy the problem because now her deploy will be smaller next time around and she still lost the opportunity to lower our players deploys before our turns. These claims are completely without standing, just like loki lost her chance to lower our deploy and her deploy will be smaller, Chuck lost his chance to lower the deploys of loki, forza, and Aaarrrrggh as the numbers above so clearly indicate. On top of that, whereas Chuck was was at 42 territories and should of conquered at least 5-10 territories to clearly keep himself above 36, he is now at 37 territories and he will also have a smaller deploy next time around just like loki does.
I think the numbers above clearly show the true nature of the game regardless. It is a hive game with no spoils, by the 4th round nearly all armies have been forted and used since it is unlimited reinforcements. We had a 46 territory lead before the glitch happened and had 3 of their players below the 36 territory threshold. The game was pretty much irreversible, yet we still took action to go above and beyond what we thought was fair and in the end, lost more troops from the ordeal than IA did.
your bob estimates and my bob estimated things very differently as is such the case in fog games. From our end the numbers are quite different.
