Multi: RugbyFX and BBust [Blocked]

by **Starblaze** on Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:27 pm

by **RugbyFX** on Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:09 pm

Starblaze wrote:Suspected Multi
Buddy hes my god damn cousin, whats wrong with you!?
and I share the computer with him so no shit hes going to go on right after me, and what do u mean by talk the same, because we both type you as u, saves time, ur just whinning cuz ur losing
Suspect users: RugbyFX/BBust

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=319404
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=306815
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=308055
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=311250
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=312204
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=313147
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=313470
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=313515
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=314300
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=318528

Comments: BBust exists to give points to RugbyFX. A look at the log of both players is suffice to indict this multi. They go one after the other within minutes, talk in the same ways... etc

Cheater

Starblaze

by **christopherfre** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:18 am

i was just about to toss these two up as possible multis...its pretty shady that rugbyfx wins every time...even if you are cousins and share a computer you think that bbust would get lucky once and actually win against his cousin[/list]

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:08 am

christopherfre wrote:i was just about to toss these two up as possible multis...its pretty shady that rugbyfx wins every time...even if you are cousins and share a computer you think that bbust would get lucky once and actually win against his cousin[/list]

He's 12 years old and I'm 17, he doesnt even understand the whole fortification thing. And he almsot beat me in like 2-3 games but he was unable to finish me off and I cashed in my cards!! Plus read some of the game conversations and u will see that like every Pre-Teen he gets mad when he starts to lose and just quits taking his turns!! I'll play any of u in a game right now with out him if u want and i'll put money on myself saying i'll win because it is a game of Strategy and a "bit" of luck. Check for yourself the games i played without him in them I still won them all!!
You all are just pissed off because I'm better than you!!

by **christopherfre** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:12 am

i just thought it was pretty weird when in our game you guys left a border with only 2 guys on it for 2 turns while you knocked me out

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:13 am

christopherfre wrote:i was just about to toss these two up as possible multis...its pretty shady that rugbyfx wins every time...even if you are cousins and share a computer you think that bbust would get lucky once and actually win against his cousin[/list]

BY THE WAY I WANT ALL OF U TO CHECK OUT THE GAME WE PLAYED WITH GUY!! ITS GAME 314300 AND YOU WILL SEE THAT WE ACTUALLY ACTTACKED EACH OTHER WAY MORE THAN WE ATTACKED HIM, HE JUST LOST BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD SETUP AND HE DIDN'T FORT HIS PEOPLE TO THE RIGHT PLACES!!! CHEATING, AS IF BUDDY, GROW UP AND QUIT WHINNING OVER A LOSE, YOU'RE PATHETIC

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:15 am

christopherfre wrote:i just thought it was pretty weird when in our game you guys left a border with only 2 guys on it for 2 turns while you knocked me out

I NEVER LEFT MY BORDERS WITH 2 PPL ON THEM, HE DID AND I WIPED HIM OUT, AND I JUST TOLD U HE DOESNT GET THE FORT PART OF THE GAME, WHICH EXPLAINS IT!!

by **Samus** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:33 am

After looking at their games histories, I'm inclined to believe they're two different people (I could be wrong). But that being said, playing with each other in a three player game without telling the other person you know each other is pretty shady. Can you honestly say that not once in all those games did you ever collude against the third player without announcing it in game chat? How can we trust that to be true?

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:51 am

Samus wrote:After looking at their games histories, I'm inclined to believe they're two different people (I could be wrong). But that being said, playing with each other in a three player game without telling the other person you know each other is pretty shady. Can you honestly say that not once in all those games did you ever collude against the third player without announcing it in game chat? How can we trust that to be true?

jUST CHECK THE HISTORY THO AND YOU WILL SEE THAT WE ATTACK EACH OTHER JUST AS MUCH AS EVERYONE ELSE

by **Samus** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:14 am

RugbyFX wrote:
Samus wrote:After looking at their games histories, I'm inclined to believe they're two different people (I could be wrong). But that being said, playing with each other in a three player game without telling the other person you know each other is pretty shady. Can you honestly say that not once in all those games did you ever collude against the third player without announcing it in game chat? How can we trust that to be true?

jUST CHECK THE HISTORY THO AND YOU WILL SEE THAT WE ATTACK EACH OTHER JUST AS MUCH AS EVERYONE ELSE

Yes, I can see that you attack each other. However, there is currently no "replay" option to see how the armies were laid out and what actions you took turn by turn. In many cases, especially in 3 player games, it becomes rational to focus your attention on the strongest player. I have no idea if the times you both went after the third player were just good rational strategy or influenced by the fact that you know each other. Are you telling me you two have never once looked at the same game and said "oh man, if we don't both attack blue he's going to win"?

These people here seem to think you are working together in more than just the usual situations. I wasn't in those games so I don't know if you were or not. But if you are playing from the same IP address, I think the burden lies with you to prove all your actions are legit.

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:30 am

Samus wrote:
RugbyFX wrote:
Samus wrote:After looking at their games histories, I'm inclined to believe they're two different people (I could be wrong). But that being said, playing with each other in a three player game without telling the other person you know each other is pretty shady. Can you honestly say that not once in all those games did you ever collude against the third player without announcing it in game chat? How can we trust that to be true?

jUST CHECK THE HISTORY THO AND YOU WILL SEE THAT WE ATTACK EACH OTHER JUST AS MUCH AS EVERYONE ELSE

Yes, I can see that you attack each other. However, there is currently no "replay" option to see how the armies were laid out and what actions you took turn by turn. In many cases, especially in 3 player games, it becomes rational to focus your attention on the strongest player. I have no idea if the times you both went after the third player were just good rational strategy or influenced by the fact that you know each other. Are you telling me you two have never once looked at the same game and said "oh man, if we don't both attack blue he's going to win"?

These people here seem to think you are working together in more than just the usual situations. I wasn't in those games so I don't know if you were or not. But if you are playing from the same IP address, I think the burden lies with you to prove all your actions are legit.

Sry Im still a bit new to this so I forgot that you couldnt just check game history, But I'm saying look at the games he wasnt even in and u will still see that i didnt lose any of them. But the main point i want to STRESS is that "WE ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON!!" No offense but if i played as bad as him I wouldnt have won those other games. And there was only 1 game we teamed up for a few turns and we announced it so it wanst like it was secret, and that was beacuse we both had a crappy layout and the other guy was in perfect possition to take quite a few of the territories

by **Starblaze** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:35 am

Just because you attack the other person doesn't mean that it automatically proves you innocent. For all we know, you are getting a continent from your other account, hence your attacking.

BBust is clearly an account that exists to give you points. Looking at the game histories, BBust never actually attacked you until the other player is eliminated.

I don't think that is due to coincidence.

by **Starblaze** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:46 am

B = BBust. R = RugbyFX

306815: B never attacked R when Blue was in the game. It was an announced truce, but R broke the truce before Blue was eliminated. Nice.

308055: B never attacked R when the victim was in the game. No truce, and R attacked B quite frequently. Then of course, R owned B after the victim was eliminated.

311250: B never attacked R when victim was in the game. No truce, and R attacked B quite frequently. Then of course, R owned B after the victim was eliminated.

312204: B attacked R once when R was already dominating the game before victim loses. No truce during the game. I think you all know what was the outcome of the game.

313147: B attacked R twice in this game before victim died. (wow, a new record), but looking at game history, you will see that B and R were basically gangbanging the victim from two sides during the game.

313470: B never attacked R when victim was in the game. No truce, and R attacked B quite frequently. Then of course, R owned B after the victim was eliminated. This is North America map. It is impossible to have one player not attack the other.

313515: New tactics. This time, B actually was on the verge of winning. Then, he "mysteriously" misses a couple of turn, leaving R to win the game.

314300: Back to the old gangbang technique against the victim.

318528: B never attacked R until yellow was eliminated, and not seriously until blue was eliminated.

From what I see, this is no cousin. This is a double account.

Cousin? Right.

by **sully800** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:13 am

I have blocked these two from playing together because of their suspicious actions. If he is indeed your cousin Rugby you can both keep playing just not with each other. And you can continue helping him to learn how to play the game better.

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:43 pm

sully800 wrote:I have blocked these two from playing together because of their suspicious actions. If he is indeed your cousin Rugby you can both keep playing just not with each other. And you can continue helping him to learn how to play the game better.

Thanks, but what about te game im already in with him? Do we finish that one?

by **Samus** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:46 pm

RugbyFX wrote:
sully800 wrote:I have blocked these two from playing together because of their suspicious actions. If he is indeed your cousin Rugby you can both keep playing just not with each other. And you can continue helping him to learn how to play the game better.

Thanks, but what about te game im already in with him? Do we finish that one?

Yeah, it just means you won't be able to join the same games together anymore. Games already in play are not effected.

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:56 pm

Oh ok thanks

by **Starblaze** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:10 pm

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=321197

So, Rugby, how many brothers do you have? This is getting really sad, you know.

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:38 pm

lol 2 cousins live here, I have 4 brothers (2 have moved out), and 3 sisters (1 moved out) and then theres me. So whats sad about that, 3 of us have profiles, u can contact the admin I already asked him if we were aloud to play, i'll post his response. Hows that sound?

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:41 pm

RugbyFX wrote:
My brother made an account , Vulcan 347 and we will be playing a game on the same computer, he said he'll only play in a 3's game so he can get better. Is it ok to play him if i send a message saying hes my brother before we start playing? BTW he and I will attack each other just as much as I do with my cousin, I was just wondering if this is aloud?

HE REPLIED

From: AndyDufresne
To: RugbyFX
Posted: 27 Mar 2007 23:25
Subject: Re: is this aloud??
Technically it is allowed, but you may be confused for a multiple account. I guess you can do so at your own risk. If you both play from the same household, it's best to upgrade to premium membership so we can verify the accounts weren't created for score buffering or extra games.

--Conquer Club

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:42 pm

Just thought i'd let u know I asked before I started the Game.

by **Starblaze** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:00 pm

Ok, let me understand the sequence of events here.

For many games, your "cousin" and you play together, and in all those games basically have secret alliances in which the two accounts gang bang the third players. And miraculously, your "cousin" always manages to lose to you.

After your "cousin" and you were blocked from playing with each other, a new account from your "brother" was promptly setup, and then the same process of gang bang and secret alliance begins.

Am I right?

by **RugbyFX** on Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:14 pm

lol nope hes had his for about a week, i just couldnt play him because i was already in 4 games

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