science debate

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:14 am

without getting too political for a more science related thread (though the topics certainly never have to be mutually exclusive) anyone who is more worried about a terrorist attack than long term environmental damage...and doesnt live in say NYC, LA, Chicago, London, Paris, Tokyo...etc either has a gigantic heart for people in those cities or needs to realize they probably are never going to be attacked.

Im not saying we shouldnt worry about the potential fall out from such an attack, because yes they are certainly very serious events and things that can be planned for...such as the 2 billion dollar one time spending shot to vastly secure US ports that never happened. Along with everyone else, i am stunned and shocked by the terrible loss of life that is a result of such stupid actions....but at the same time i think its important to realize the average person cant control a whole lot as to whether or not a terrorist attack is going to happen....but you can do a whole lot to try and be a conspicous consumer, more ecofriendly human being. Yes, i cant really know what my effects on this planet will be long after im gone anymore than i can predict a terrorist attack...but at least i can be active in doing something about it.

Just a bit of friendly advice...when you worry abou things in life that our vastly out of our control...you only end up fearing things that you have little need to fear (like my mom fearing every arab american) and you let things you cant control cloud your every day judgement....something much more important to your day to day life than whether or not there will be a terrible calamity that befalls mankind.

End rant...my apologies.

Xayath · Post by **Xayath** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:10 am

*is amazed that Jamie hasnt poluted this thread with his specialized verson of cr*p ad infinitum. i mean jamie not comment on this post, did someone kill/tie him up or something.*

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:11 pm

Neutrino if your out in the out back living and you got no freash water piped into you and theres no streams about, then the only other place to get drinking water is from under ground

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:17 pm

WL_southerner wrote:Neutrino if your out in the out back living and you got no freash water piped into you and theres no streams about, then the only other place to get drinking water is from under ground

I was never saying that dams are evil and should be destroyed. What I was actually saying is that a rising water table is not a good thing...

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:40 pm

when you got a low water table like here in the uk,australia,parts of america and africa, then it be a very good thing to do to get the under ground water table up that be the added benifit of damming up rivers and streams

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:02 am

gone very quiet nobody got any thing to say

alex_white101 · Post by **alex_white101** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:12 am

i do, roger dodger, i respect what you said, but the film AI is really awful. please dont bring it up again or i may remember the pain of watching it.........

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:00 pm

Ona separate subject, what do you guys think about black holes?

alex_white101 · Post by **alex_white101** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:13 pm

well im no racist, but i just prefer white ones........

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:33 pm

hard one to think about (black holes ) tell us what you think

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:35 pm

unriggable wrote:Ona separate subject, what do you guys think about black holes?

They suck.

DA-DUM-PISH!

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:33 pm

wonder what would happen if two black holes crashed into one in other

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:38 pm

WL_southerner wrote:wonder what would happen if two black holes crashed into one in other

They'd merge into a supermassive black hole.

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:59 pm

do we know that for sure

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:58 pm

WL_southerner wrote:do we know that for sure

What the hell else would they do, bounce off one another? I could understand your thinking, usually when two planets collide they go about their usual course (a little bit off but you know), but these are much more gravetical (is that a word?) so they'd suck one another up and become twice as powerful.

Also, apparently several seconds on the event horizon of a black hole is the equivalent of fifty to sixty years here.

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:49 am

when 2 planets collide there a bit of time how long i not sure when there is no gravity, i was wondering would 2 black holes be the same

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:28 am

No gravity? Imagine having sex with a robot under zero-gravity circumstances...

Aries · Post by **Aries** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:37 am

hmmmmmmm...... interesting thought. I actually did a speech on black holes, although I can't remember, but I think I researched that black holes can't crash into each other. The suns that they would've been b4 couldn't have been close enough together.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:52 am

oh, and btw, I prefer pink holes to black ones.

Aries · Post by **Aries** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:24 am

Ya, but pink holes doesn't sound as menacing as black holes. in my opinion, it's like calling the event horizon the horizon of ponies.

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:48 am

what abour solar systems where there's to 2 stars what if they both turned into black holes about the same time

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:52 am

Aries wrote:hmmmmmmm...... interesting thought. I actually did a speech on black holes, although I can't remember, but I think I researched that black holes can't crash into each other. The suns that they would've been b4 couldn't have been close enough together.

No, they can. There are actually nomadic black holes, believe it or not. So two holes can collide. Luckily the farthest ones a re very far away, I think it would be over 200 years before anybody saw it from here.

Aries · Post by **Aries** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:58 am

Wow. Now that would be a sight to see. 2 black holes colliding. Of course, You wouldn't be able really see anything.............. But I've always wondered, if you went through a black hole and lived, what would be on the other side?

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:13 am

Aries wrote:Wow. Now that would be a sight to see. 2 black holes colliding. Of course, You wouldn't be able really see anything.............. But I've always wondered, if you went through a black hole and lived, what would be on the other side?

You'd b sucked into a black hole. There is still some speculation as to whether a black hole is a hyperbola, meaning it has an entry and an exit, or a ellipsis, meaning it is a single entry. A hyperbola would prove the existence of white hole, which is pretty much where matter is spewed out from. But an ellipsis would have all the matter sucked in indefinetely.

WL_southerner · Post by **WL_southerner** » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:16 pm

would not much left of a person if he wqs suck in end up being the size of a atom

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