I actually don't have any love for this particular legislation, and only support it in part. I was just making a point of the hypocritical stand a lot of people are making.Night Strike wrote:
The government also provides you with the privilege of using its roads. So you're saying the government also gives you the privilege to live, so you must pay for health insurance?
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Except that your point is invalid because it's not hypocritical to support mandatory car insurance but not mandatory health insurance.Juan_Bottom wrote:I actually don't have any love for this particular legislation, and only support it in part. I was just making a point of the hypocritical stand a lot of people are making.Night Strike wrote:
The government also provides you with the privilege of using its roads. So you're saying the government also gives you the privilege to live, so you must pay for health insurance?
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My quibble with it isn't built upon (even in part) the fact that it is a required purchase though. So I'm not be hypocritical.
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I didn't say you were being hypocritical. I'm saying that your argument about people not wanting the mandatory health insurance provision being hypocritical is invalid because a comparison to car insurance is inaccurate.Juan_Bottom wrote:My quibble with it isn't built upon (even in part) the fact that it is a required purchase though. So I'm not be hypocritical.
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I strongly agree with Night Strike here!Night Strike wrote:I didn't say you were being hypocritical. I'm saying that your argument about people not wanting the mandatory health insurance provision being hypocritical is invalid because a comparison to car insurance is inaccurate.Juan_Bottom wrote:My quibble with it isn't built upon (even in part) the fact that it is a required purchase though. So I'm not be hypocritical.
Just sayin'
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Those look more like paintball guns than machine guns.Army of GOD wrote:
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And I strongly disagree. If you don't have Auto-Insurance, and run into someone, they'll have to pay the bill. If you don't have health Insurance, and need to go to the hospital, the people who do have insurance pay your bill.
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You can sue the person who doesn't have insurance, not to mention they get fines and revocation of their license, and the hospital can bill you for the unpaid expenses.Juan_Bottom wrote:And I strongly disagree. If you don't have Auto-Insurance, and run into someone, they'll have to pay the bill. If you don't have health Insurance, and need to go to the hospital, the people who do have insurance pay your bill.
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Right, but that does not mean we cave to personal irresponsibility.Juan_Bottom wrote:And I strongly disagree. If you don't have Auto-Insurance, and run into someone, they'll have to pay the bill. If you don't have health Insurance, and need to go to the hospital, the people who do have insurance pay your bill.
You ring up the bill, you pay.
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Agreed, we need to tell all the young people to not get cancer. If you can't pay for it, don't genetically inherit a susceptibility to it! Simple.Phatscotty wrote:Right, but that does not mean we cave to personal irresponsibility.Juan_Bottom wrote:And I strongly disagree. If you don't have Auto-Insurance, and run into someone, they'll have to pay the bill. If you don't have health Insurance, and need to go to the hospital, the people who do have insurance pay your bill.
You ring up the bill, you pay.
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Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 0#p5349880
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wut? btw, julian assange is incredibly flirty in that photo.
Mr_Adams wrote:You, sir, are an idiot.
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spurgistan wrote:

Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 0#p5349880
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LOL bros! Love this music video send-up of the head of Obama's harem vis a vis WikiLeaks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ&t=1m9s
I wonder why Obama hates truth and freedom so much? First president since Truman who hasn't pledged a house. Could be the reason?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl4NlA97GeQ&t=1m9s
I wonder why Obama hates truth and freedom so much? First president since Truman who hasn't pledged a house. Could be the reason?
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
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You get cancer, you have cancer. Nothing is going to change that.spurgistan wrote:Agreed, we need to tell all the young people to not get cancer. If you can't pay for it, don't genetically inherit a susceptibility to it! Simple.Phatscotty wrote:Right, but that does not mean we cave to personal irresponsibility.Juan_Bottom wrote:And I strongly disagree. If you don't have Auto-Insurance, and run into someone, they'll have to pay the bill. If you don't have health Insurance, and need to go to the hospital, the people who do have insurance pay your bill.
You ring up the bill, you pay.
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The person with cancer treats the cancer as best they can.
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He might have been talking about me. With my condition the way it is, I'll develop cancer eventually. It's a genetically inherited disease. When I first found out about this, I was a minor, and on my mother's employer-provided Health Care. They dropped me, and claimed that because it was genetically inherited, it was a pre-existing condition. When we countered that we didn't even know that this disease existed, they were able to show us that someone in my family did test positive for it well before we learned that I even had it. They basically Wal*Mart-ed us and said "hey if your mad and want to sue someone to pay for this, sue your family member and their Doctor because it was their job to tell you. We've got nothing to do with this."
AMERICA f*ck YEAH.
AMERICA f*ck YEAH.
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Wow, that's America, through one guys eyes. Anything else worth mentioning about America besides your medical record? Does cost have anything to do with it? Is it really a money thing in the end? Just wonderingJuan_Bottom wrote:He might have been talking about me. With my condition the way it is, I'll develop cancer eventually. It's a genetically inherited disease. When I first found out about this, I was a minor, and on my mother's employer-provided Health Care. They dropped me, and claimed that because it was genetically inherited, it was a pre-existing condition. When we countered that we didn't even know that this disease existed, they were able to show us that someone in my family did test positive for it well before we learned that I even had it. They basically Wal*Mart-ed us and said "hey if your mad and want to sue someone to pay for this, sue your family member and their Doctor because it was their job to tell you. We've got nothing to do with this."
AMERICA f*ck YEAH.
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i was loving how people were thinking barack was gonna be the dope, but turns out he wasnt. so i want to know peoples reasons for supporting him, please post.
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With you there. Do you think it was just because he is black?KINER wrote:i was loving how people were thinking barack was gonna be the dope, but turns out he wasnt. so i want to know peoples reasons for supporting him, please post.
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FIrst and foremost, I do not hate Barack Hussein Obama. (I know a lot of people might think the use of his middle name is some sort of insult on my part. Nothing is further from the truth. The fact that his middle name is the same as the first name of that Iraqi dictator who used WMD on his own people is about as interesting as the personal assistants to Lincoln and Kennedy. I like it because of the meter; 2-2-3, which is nicer than just a simple 2-3 meter. It's not as good as a 2-2-2 meter "Richard Milhous Nixon" but it's still able to hold its own in a poetry recital.)
I certainly do not hate him because he is black. (His father was from Africa; it's not like he has slave ancestors.) Considering that I once supported Alan Keys (and not just because he was Roman Catholic) for President and was searching in vain in 2008 for J.C. Watts because I wanted him so badly for president I would have suggested we draft him. I was at a social meeting the other day with a few members, one of them was black. When the TV turned to something about the president you should have seen the hatred in his voice. Just like there are black people in the tea party there are black people who disagree with what the president believes and wants to implement.
I do not like him, Sam I am. I do not like his political spam. I do not like him on a train. I do not like him on a plane. I do not like him, Sam I am.
He is still significantly better than Carter ever could be (with the exception when he was actively building houses for habitat for humanity).
Spoiler
Barack Hussein Obama
He's better than a llama
He's better than yo' mamma
Barack Hussein Obama
He's better than a llama
He's better than yo' mamma
Barack Hussein Obama
I do not like him, Sam I am. I do not like his political spam. I do not like him on a train. I do not like him on a plane. I do not like him, Sam I am.
He is still significantly better than Carter ever could be (with the exception when he was actively building houses for habitat for humanity).

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Yes. Totally.Phatscotty wrote:With you there. Do you think it was just because he is black?KINER wrote:i was loving how people were thinking barack was gonna be the dope, but turns out he wasnt. so i want to know peoples reasons for supporting him, please post.
Americans were tired of white assholes screwing them over. So they thought, lets go with the black option for a change.
I believe colloquially known as the assblackwards plan.
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i think a lot of the african american population of america was with him for that reason. some of my black friends parents voted for john mccain, they were more in tune with politics as a whole compared to most of the numbers of negros who did vote for him. i can say negro here right? nothing wrong with that if you ask mePhatscotty wrote:With you there. Do you think it was just because he is black?KINER wrote:i was loving how people were thinking barack was gonna be the dope, but turns out he wasnt. so i want to know peoples reasons for supporting him, please post.
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I think you're going to be my new favorite troll. [hugs]KINER wrote:i think a lot of the african american population of america was with him for that reason. some of my black friends parents voted for john mccain, they were more in tune with politics as a whole compared to most of the numbers of negros who did vote for him. i can say negro here right? nothing wrong with that if you ask mePhatscotty wrote:With you there. Do you think it was just because he is black?KINER wrote:i was loving how people were thinking barack was gonna be the dope, but turns out he wasnt. so i want to know peoples reasons for supporting him, please post.
Mr_Adams wrote:You, sir, are an idiot.
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